Would the human body make more sense if it were not designed?

_{Denyse O'Leary

June 8, 2011

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Richard Carrier thinks so.

Someone suggested this idea for an Uncommon Descent contest: Watch the vid and count the logical fallacies.

If it seems interesting, note your responses here, and we’ll count your comment as an entry when the contest is announced.

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"Can an unembodied mind exist?" To ask the question is to answer it. BarlowFilms "I actually mostly agree with that video, we are susceptible to so many unnecessary diseases because of our body, which, if it was designed, is not the result of anything that I would deem as “intelligent”." And if God allowed the degradation of the entire physical universe for specific reasons, you would still hold that we're not intelligently designed? Those who claim God does not exist can not turn around and then say "God wouldn't haven't done it that way, he would have done it MY way." This type of thought process is delusional and uncritical. All you need to do is posit a universe in which God would have sufficient reason to allow for our current scenario. Honestly, aside from denouncing garbage like Zeitgeist, there's not much Carrier says that I agree with.Scruffy_{June 9, 2011
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Richard Carrier, hehehe No need to say moremike1962_{June 8, 2011
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"Can I guess at the logical fallacies without watching the video?" Probably; and probably with a better than 50% accuracy rate.Ilion_{June 8, 2011
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of interest; "Evolutionary Biologist Richard Sternberg discusses modern genomics and junk DNA" - podcast http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.com/entry/2011-06-08T16_06_26-07_00bornagain77_{June 8, 2011
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Richard Carrier...I once witnessed a debate between him and Mike Flynn. It was mostly just Carrier cursing out Flynn. Witness the civility a Ph.D bestows: http://richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2010/01/flynns-pile-of-boners.html I realize this is off-topic, but it's pretty much all I recall when I hear the name "Richard Carrier."HouseStreetRoom_{June 8, 2011
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bornagain77: Allow me to quote from further down in the study you referenced: "Dr Janszky, the study's first author, emphasises that the absolute numbers of AMI cases in the study are small, with only slightly more than 400 and 200 total cases of AMI in more than 7.5 million and nearly 4 million person-years of follow-up." Compare this with: "extrapolations [of the appendix] for USA for acute appendicitis [are] 680,000 every year and 56,666 per month, making 13,076 a week, 1,863 every day, 77 per hour and 1 per minute. ...Looking at the increased graph of deaths occurring due to appendicitis, this disease has to be treated as early as possible. Because leaving this untreated, it turns to major complications including fair chances to have appendix perforation or rupture and then peritonitis causing death of the sufferer." -copied from http://www.symptomsofappendicitis.org Seems to me that the relatively disastrous effects of having an appendix far outweigh the possible issues with having it removed. I actually mostly agree with that video, we are susceptible to so many unnecessary diseases because of our body, which, if it was designed, is not the result of anything that I would deem as "intelligent".BarlowFilms_{June 8, 2011
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Can I guess at the logical fallacies without watching the video?Mung_{June 8, 2011
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So, if God created an actual material universe, in which the matter within that universe operated under orderly physical law, then that is evidence that God doesn't exist. Okay. Got it. Makes perfect sense.Upright BiPed_{June 8, 2011
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semi OT: Surgical removal of the tonsils and appendix associated with risk of early heart attack - June 2011 Excerpt: The surgical removal of the appendix and tonsils before the age of 20 was associated with an increased risk of premature heart attack in a large population study performed in Sweden. Tonsillectomy increased the risk by 44% (hazard ratio 1.44) and appendectomy by 33% (HR 1.33). The risk increases were just statistically significant, and were even higher when the tonsils and appendix were both removed. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-06-surgical-tonsils-appendix-early-heart.html#sharebornagain77_{June 8, 2011
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