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Is this book about theistic evolution or is it an atheist scam?

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With Evolving out of Eden: Christian Responses to Evolution, it is hard to tell. The book, by Robert M. Price and Edwin A. Suominen, is advertised as follows:

The reality of evolution and human origins is now beyond any scientific dispute. We are first cousins to the chimpanzees, descendants not of any biblical Adam but of lumbering hairy ancestors who were making fires and hand axes in Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago. This challenges many foundational doctrines of Christianity.

Former BioLogos notable Karl Giberson might have written that.

Concerned believers are walking a troubled middle path between Genesis and genetics, threatened with the loss of a cherished faith on the one hand or their intellectual integrity on the other. To escort the faithful through the hostile territory outside Eden’s comforting fairyland, a whole cottage industry of science-savvy theologians has emerged. But do they manage to get anywhere?

One could read that at a progressive Christian site. Yawners.

The giveaway is in the author bios (also, observe the facial expressions) …

And in the endorsements. Anyone recognize Victor J. Stenger (God: The Failed Hypothesis)?

Then there’s John W. Loftus, (Why I Became an Atheist and The Outsider Test for Faith), and Frank R. Zindler, editor of American Atheist Press.

And so forth.

What’s interesting is how easily and convincingly Darwinian atheists can pick up the lingo of theistic evolution (Christian Darwinism, really).

See also: Ethicist Wesley J. Smith accuses theistic evolutionist Francis Collins of copping out

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I think the title might give the casual reader the impression that it could reflect some form of Christianity. "Christian Responses to Evolution" would imply such. However, there is nothing theistic at all in the content. It is an atheistic work.fmarotta
November 13, 2013
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Mung,
The book has a plug from Victor Stenger. That doesn’t mean it’s an atheist scam, of course. Isn’t Bradley Monton an atheist?
I think when the entire suite of the endorsements comes from the bottom of the barrel atheist apologists, including Bob 'Jesus Mythicist' Price - and it pretty much says 'Nope, there's no way to reconcile these FACTS, Christianity is done for', you're dealing with atheist apologetics straightaway. The only thing that differs from a book endorsed by Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne is 'Well, those guys are more popular.'nullasalus
November 10, 2013
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hahah. Anyone notice the difference between the plug for the book on the site linked in the OP and the plug on Amazon?
The reality of evolution and human origins is now beyond any scientific dispute. We are first cousins to the chimpanzees, descendants not of any biblical Adam but of lumbering hairy ancestors who were making fires and hand axes in Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago. This challenges many foundational doctrines of Christianity.
It is now beyond any scientific dispute that all life evolved by a natural process of random mutation and DNA crossover, genetic drift, horizontal gene transfer, and natural selection. We are the highly refined but happenstance products of blind experimentation carried out in a design laboratory that has been running itself for billions of years. We are first cousins to the chimpanzees, descendants not of any biblical Adam but of lumbering hairy ancestors who were making fires and hand axes in Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago. Accepting this has been especially difficult for Christianity, because evolution challenges many foundational doctrines.
I love it!Mung
November 10, 2013
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The book has a plug from Victor Stenger. That doesn't mean it's an atheist scam, of course. Isn't Bradley Monton an atheist?Mung
November 10, 2013
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Maybe the TE’s are just easier to make fun of, nullasalus.
If this requires a lack of people mocking ID (or better yet, caricatures of ID), then we have a problem right away. I think a good share of theistic evolutionists are shams, intellectually. Biologos has never been impressive, though things were looking up for a while at one point (they were definitely off to a bad start.) My problem is when Karl Giberson and William Lane Craig (who has been pretty explicit about ID sympathies in the past) somehow get thrown into the same exact pile.nullasalus
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Mapou, some of us are quite willing to just have some fun with them now and then, when we can't find the Scrabble board or the Chinese checkers.News
November 10, 2013
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The enemy is cunning and lying is in their DNA. Theistic evolution is a Trojan horse and its proponents are low-grade, lukewarm demons wearing the garbs of angels of light. They are neither hot nor cold and so we must spew them out of our collective mouth. :-DMapou
November 10, 2013
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Maybe the TE's are just easier to make fun of, nullasalus.News
November 10, 2013
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nullasalus, it would be interesting to see if they could as easily sound like ID theorists, and think they were making a point THEY wanted to make.
What do ID theorists sound like? Behe sounds like a scientist. Meyer, like a thoughtful philosopher. Here's a better question: if the theistic evolutionists are worrying enough to the low-rent atheists that they feel the need to attack even them, maybe it's possible something they're doing is positive?nullasalus
November 10, 2013
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nullasalus, it would be interesting to see if they could as easily sound like ID theorists, and think they were making a point THEY wanted to make.News
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What’s interesting is how easily and convincingly Darwinian atheists can pick up the lingo of theistic evolution (Christian Darwinism, really).
On this one, News, I do not understand your criticism. What you have here is a collection of New Atheists (generally the bottom feeders of internet atheism) delivering an attack on Christianity. Are you saying we should trust their criticisms? And if we should - should we trust their criticisms of intelligent design too? Because I can guarantee you, they target that idea as well elsewhere.nullasalus
November 10, 2013
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Yeah, Price is basically an atheist. One of his books is "The Case Against The Case for Christ". Very odd bird.julianbre
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