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UPDATED! Well, the jig is up now, re the Guillermo Gonzalez case. I’ve just seen the whack of documents the Discovery Institute is releasing.

1. It appears that the decision had been made to turn Gonzalez down for tenure at Iowa State University before he had actually applied for it, and the reason was his advocacy of intelligent design.

Read this story in the Des Moines Register last week by Lisa Rossi

ISU President Gregory Geoffroy said in June that Gonzalez’s advocacy of the “intelligent design” concept was not a factor in the decision to turn down his request for tenure.

Geoffroy said he focused his review on Gonzalez’s overall record of scientific accomplishment as an assistant professor at ISU.

and then this one, after the Register got hold of the e-mails via a public records request:

The disclosure of the e-mails is contrary to what ISU officials emphasized after Gonzalez, an assistant professor in physics and astronomy, learned that his university colleagues had voted to deny his bid for tenure.

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In response to a question about why the influence of intelligent design in the physics and astronomy tenure decisions was not acknowledged publicly by the university earlier, McCarroll said, “I can’t speak for every one of those individuals” who voted on Gonzalez’s tenure.

 (Clarification December 6, 2007: John West of Discovery Institute (DI) has written to advise me that the Record did not make a public records request, but was shown the documents by ISU after DI had announced that it had obtained them and that they would be made public. It appears that, by ignoring the embargo, the Register scooped the other media, not DI. Still,  to their credit, they know a story when they see one. – d.)

2. The alleged tenure review was in fact a fishing expedition whose purpose was to find any grounds at all for denying tenure to a man who emerges clearly an outstanding scientist (in flat contradiction to some of President Geoffroy’s other claims), and far more so than the colleagues who were doing the fishing. For example, the fact that some of his widely cited papers were cited less often than others was grounds for a focus on the less widely cited ones. The fact that he published a textbook was dinged as an unwise use of his time.

Much of the most damaging stuff won’t make it to Gonzalez’s Regents’ appeal on a technicality, but it’s now going to be out there for all to see.

Anyway, brava! to journalist Lisa Rossi for exposing the vast credibility gap between what President Geoffroy was claiming to the media and the facts of the case. When oh when will administrators learn, do NOT tell stretchers to the media. Even journalists who support you get mad if they think you are lying. As I said, more later.

– Actually, Rossi for the Register scooped Disco on the e-mails business, publishing on Saturday what they were going to reveal at a press conference the following Monday. Both groups had filed public records requests but the newspaper won. But the Disco package is pretty amazing anyway, and brings out a lot of stuff that’s not in the Register.

Here’s Disco’s press release

Faculty involved in the tenure decision were well aware of Gonzalez’s support for ID. More than one year before his tenure evaluation was scheduled, one ISU professor wrote an e-mail that left no doubt that Gonzalez’s tenure application would never receive a fair evaluation.

“He will be up for tenure next year,” wrote the professor. “And if he keeps up, it might be a hard sell to the department.”
Contrary to his public statements, and those of ISU President Gregory Geoffroy, the chairman of ISU’s Department of Physics and Astronomy, Dr. Eli Rosenberg, stated in Dr. Gonzalez’s tenure dossier that Dr. Gonzalez’s support for intelligent design “disqualifies him from serving as a science educator

And here is their longer report:

In a particularly damning e-mail, ISU Physicist John Hauptmann admitted to faculty member Hector Avalos that “principle [of freedom of inquiry] has been violated massively in the physics department”21 in its treatment of Dr. Gonzalez.
Other faculty members privately expressed qualms at the unethical and dishonest way they were plotting against Dr. Gonzalez behind his back. Dr. Harmon stated to Kawaler that, “I don’t think talking behind Guillermo’s back is quite ethical.”22 Paul Canfield had similar concerns, stating that they should issue the statement because otherwise it would appear that they were doing exactly what they were doing: secretly scheming about how to attack the viewpoint of a department member who was under consideration for tenure. Canfield wrote:
o “Do we do everything at secret meetings and the hope Discovery Institute’s Lawyers don’t subpoena our records? If I were Gonzalez, I would prefer my colleagues were honest and forthright in their opinions, as he seems to be with his.”23

I bet Canfield wishes that even more now. There may or may not be a God but there certainly is a Nemesis.

And all this about a guy who was far more productive scientifically than any of them!

Here’s Discovery boss Bruce Chapman on the “iceberg” unearthed in Iowa:

Readers may suspect that I am overstating the problem at ISU, but they should look more closely. For openers, it might be asked how many of Gonzalez’ critics–the people quoted in the emails and the President and other Administration officials and Board at ISU who have ruled on this matter have ever bothered to read The Privileged Planet, the co-authored book that seems to have agitated Gonzalez’ enemies? Are they even aware of the internationally prominent scientists who praised Professor Gonzalez’ work? Is this failure of curiosity not then a clear indication of the faculty’s and University President’s prejudice–literally their “pre-judgment”?

What emerges is that the Iowa profs are a bunch of hicks, actually. Why would they have read the book they were dissing? Bad for their eyesight I am sure.

Questions:

– Shouldn’t Geoffroy resign and take his chief witch hunters with him?

– Shouldn’t Gonzalez sue these people?

– What about the fact that they were using public funds to conduct their nasty little war against a superior scientist?

But now here’s the really amazing thing: The Regents, to whom Gonzalez is appealing, are refusing, on a technicality, to examine the damning e-mails. (He should have known about the e-mails, you see … ) That way they can turn Gonzalez down despite what has happened.

No, I am not making this up. I couldn’t, honestly.

By the way, ISU tried to sue the Discos to get them to drop their public records request. As it happens, the Des Moines Register was making one anyway, so it would have been usesless. And THAT, by the way, is what newspapering is supposed to be about. Not a cushy lifestyle for the feeble sonsbergers of wealthy men.

How productive was Gonzalez? I can’t use sidebars in a blog, so this quote from Disco’s memo will just have to be long:

He has published more peer-reviewed journal articles than all but one of the faculty members granted tenure this year at ISU – across the university as a whole, not just his department. In fact, Gonzalez has more peer-reviewed journal articles to his credit than all but five faculty members granted tenure at ISU since 2003. In addition, he exceeded his department’s own tenure standards, which define “excellence” in terms of publications in refereed science journals, by more than 350%.

Yet ISU president Dr. Gregory Geoffroy has attributed his rejection of Gonzalez’s tenure appeal to matters having nothing to do with intelligent design. The astronomer simply “did not show the trajectory of excellence that we expect,” Geoffroy has said.

His department chairman, Dr. Eli Rosenberg, claims in Gonzalez’s tenure dossier that the astronomer failed to show an “overall positive trend” in his research record of late. Yet in 2006, the year he was up for tenure, Gonzalez published more total articles than all other tenured ISU astronomers. Moreover, Dr. Gonzalez has more per-capita citations in science journals and per-capita scientific publications than any other tenured astronomer at ISU since 2001, the year he joined ISU. In other words, Gonzalez outperformed the very astronomers that voted against his tenure, negating any basis for their complaining about the “trend” of his research while at ISU.

Meanwhile, his work has been featured in the world’s most prestigious science journals, Nature in 2002 and Science in 2004. He co-authored the cover story for Scientific American in 2001, and he is also co-author of a 2006 peer-reviewed Cambridge University Press textbook, Observational Astronomy. He is clearly impacting the next generation of scientists, as his ideas about the Galactic Habitable Zone have even been incorporated into two astronomy textbooks by other authors.

With all this going for him, and being well-liked personally by his colleagues, getting tenure at ISU should have been nearly automatic. The university has struggled to explain the reason for his rejection, offering explanations that fall far short of being convincing. The claim is advanced, for example, that Gonzalez failed to secure enough funding for his research. But observational astronomers are not heavily dependent on sumptuous grants to support their research. They only need an already existing telescope, enough money to fly or drive to the facility, and an inexpensive computer to analyze the observational data they obtain.

In any event, Gonzalez received more grant funding than 35 percent of faculty members who were granted tenure at ISU in 2007 and who listed their research grants on their curriculum vitae. Indeed, of the utmost importance is the fact that grants are not even listed in the tenure guidelines for his department. Of the nine review letters that gave recommendations regarding Dr. Gonzalez’s final tenure decision, six strongly supported his tenure promotion and gave glowing endorsements of his reputation and academic achievements. (Even Dr. Gonzalez’s tenure dossier admitted that “five of the external letter writers … including senior scientists at prestigious institutions recommend his promotion” and that only “[t]hree do not.”) One reviewer observed that ISU’s Department of Physics and Astronomy does not consider grants as a criterion for gaining tenure, and stated that “Dr. Gonzalez is eminently qualified for the promotion according to your guidelines of excellence in scholarship and exhibiting a potential for national distinction. In light of your criteria I would certainly recommend the promotion.” ISU chose to ignore the advice of these senior scientists at prestigious institutions.

As before, more later.

Comments
Bornagain77: why is this discussion of theism relevant on a blog devoted to a discussion of ID and related issues? I thought that ID was unrelated to religion?aardpig
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SeekAndFind wrote: "——————– RE: where does the school list the ability to generate money as a requirement for tenure? ——————– I think the answer is from the administrators themselves ( i.e. those who are evaluating his tenure application )". Hello Seek, The problem is that in order to avoid misunderstandings, and/or the appearance of favoritism and discrimination, personnel decisions involving sensitive issues like promotions must be set in writing with clearly delineated guidance standards. Otherwise, how could we be sure that Joe Moe didn't get the position because of his amorous escapades with the President? Notice that money is not even mentioned as a factor in the recent news articles. I mean, is there even a benchmark for what would be considered acceptable fund-raising?JPCollado
December 3, 2007
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In reply to pwieland (17): this isn't correct. Although equipment costs of astronomy tend to be less than in other fields of experimental physics (because these costs are covered by national-level expenditure on observatories and space missions), there is still a significant cost incurred for salaries. A typical grad student costs $40k per year. A typical post-doc costs $80k per year. Compare that against the amount of grant income brought in by GG. To place this in context, have a look through the current AAS job register: http://members.aas.org/JobReg/JobRegister.cfm Many, if not all, of the advertised faculty jobs at research universities stipulate that the successful candidate must be able to bring in external grant income. This is a pretty standard requirement.aardpig
December 3, 2007
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Ms Maya wrote: "The ability to generate grant revenue is always part of tenure decisions at research universities." So the evidence the court will be asking for should not be hard to come by. Where is the written SOP with regard to this criteria? Hearsay or unrecorded formulas/methods simply will not count, especially when dealing with personnel issues at a publicly funded institution.JPCollado
December 3, 2007
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PS a reminder of Maya's sensibilities: "That’s _Miss_ Maya, thank you very much!"DLH
December 3, 2007
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Since Maya thinks he knows what science is (materialism) let's put his materialistic philosophy in the light and see how it stacks up.: There are two prevailing philosophies vying for the right to be called the truth in man's perception of reality. These two prevailing philosophies are Theism and Materialism. Materialism is sometimes called philosophical naturalism and, to a lesser degree, is often even conflated with methodological naturalism. Materialism is the current hypothesis entrenched over science as the nt hypothesis guiding scientists. Materialism asserts that everything that exists arose from chance acting on an material basis which has always existed. Whereas, Theism asserts everything that exists arose from the purposeful will of the spirit of Almighty God who has always existed in a timeless eternity. A hypothesis in science is suppose to give proper guidance to scientists and make, somewhat, accurate predictions. In this primary endeavor, for a hypothesis, Materialism has failed miserably. 1. Materialism did not predict the big bang. Yet Theism always said the universe was created. 2. Materialism did not predict a sub-atomic (quantum) world that blatantly defies our concepts of time and space. Yet Theism always said the universe is the craftsmanship of God who is not limited by time or space. 3. Materialism did not predict the fact that time, as we understand it, comes to a complete stop at the speed of light, as revealed by Einstein's special theory of relativity. Yet Theism always said that God exists in a timeless eternity. 4. Materialism did not predict the stunning precision for the underlying universal constants for the universe, found in the Anthropic Principle, which allows life as we know it to be possible. Yet Theism always said God laid the foundation of the universe, so the stunning, unchanging, clockwork precision found for the various universal constants is not at all unexpected for Theism. 5. Materialism predicted that complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Yet statistical analysis of the many required parameters that enable complex life to be possible on earth reveals that the earth is extremely unique in its ability to support complex life in this universe. Theism would have expected the earth to be extremely unique in this universe in its ability to support complex life. 6. Materialism did not predict the fact that the DNA code is, according to Bill Gates, far, far more advanced than any computer code ever written by man. Yet Theism would have naturally expected this level of complexity in the DNA code. 7. Materialism presumed a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA, which is not the case at all. Yet Theism would have naturally presumed such a high if not, what most likely is, complete negative mutation rate to an organism’s DNA. 8. Materialism presumed a very simple first life form. Yet the simplest life ever found on Earth is, according to Geneticist Michael Denton PhD., far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. Yet Theism would have naturally expected this level of complexity for the “simplest” life on earth. 9. Materialism predicted that it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Yet we find evidence for “complex” photo-synthetic life in the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth (Minik T. Rosing and Robert Frei, “U-Rich Archaean Sea-Floor Sediments from Greenland—Indications of >3700 Ma Oxygenic Photosynthesis", Earth and Planetary Science Letters 6907 (2003): 1-8) Theism would have naturally expected this sudden appearance of life on earth. 10. Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life to be self-evident in the fossil record. The Cambrian Explosion, by itself, destroys this myth. Yet Theism would have naturally expected such sudden appearance of the many different and completely unique fossils in the Cambrian explosion. 11. Materialism predicted that there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record. Yet fossils are characterized by sudden appearance in the fossil record and overall stability as long as they stay in the fossil record. There is not one clear example of unambiguous transition between major species out of millions of collected fossils. Theism would have naturally expected fossils to suddenly appear in the fossil record with stability afterwards as well as no evidence of transmutation into radically new forms. 12. Materialism predicts animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Yet man himself is the last scientifically accepted fossil to suddenly appear in the fossil record. Theism would have predicted that man himself was the last fossil to suddenly appear in the fossil record. I could probably go a lot further for the evidence is extensive and crushing against the Materialistic philosophy. As stated before, an overriding hypothesis in science, such as Materialism currently is, is suppose to give correct guidance to scientists. Materialism has failed miserably in its predictive power for science. The hypothesis with the strongest predictive power in science is "suppose" to be the prevailing philosophy of science. That philosophy should be Theism. Why this shift in science has not yet occurred is a mystery that needs to be remedied to enable new, and potentially wonderful, breakthroughs in science. Now I ask you Maya, why should materialism be anything other than a subservient hypothesis to the nt hypothesis of Theism?bornagain77
December 3, 2007
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"But it is incumbent on a science educator to clearly understand and be able to articulate what science is and what it is not. The fact that Dr. Gonzalez does not understand what constitutes both science and a scientific theory disqualifies him from serving as a science educator." Based on this, I would have to say that anyone who believes this about ID shouldn't be teaching science. Because they can't separate science and their underlying philosophical beliefs they confuse with being essential to science.geoffrobinson
December 3, 2007
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Maya For the relative importance of Gonzalez's work, we have to compare Gonzalez's citations against all others within his own department (not other departments). See: Guillermo Gonzalez Has Highest Normalized Citation Count among ISU Astronomers for Publications Since 2001 Normalized citation count for ALL ISU Astronomers since 2001 Gonzales also had the second highest life time citation record. Lifetime Citation Count for ALL ISU Astronomers This also appears to support the argument for academic jealousy, just as with Galileo and the Aristotelean academics. See GUILLERMO GONZALEZ REFEREED PUBLICATIONS IN PRINT 2001 6 2002 4 2003 6 2004 2 2005 3 2006 4 2007 2 I would expect that writing a text book and another publication on his findings justifies the lower references in 2004 and 2005.DLH
December 3, 2007
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Also, elite research universities' overemphasis on research at the expense of teaching is a reason why these universities are not good places to get undergraduate educations despite these universities' highly competitive admissions and high tuitions.Larry Fafarman
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"If it's unscientific, then we don't agree with it. And if we don't agree with it, it's not scientific." Me.angryoldfatman
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Maya @ 15 wrote:
You may be being misled by part of the summary above. Ms. O’Leary wrote: [excerpt, etc.]
I didn't read Ms. O'Leary's summary. I went to the Discovery Institute link I posted, so I could read the e-mails myself. I don't like people to filter things for me; whenever possible, I prefer to assess things directly myself. Hopefully you've done the same, though if you have, I see it hasn't stopped your post-hoc apologetics for the appalling behavior of supposedly enlightened members of the scientific community.
But it is incumbent on a science educator to clearly understand and be able to articulate what science is and what it is not. The fact that Dr. Gonzalez does not understand what constitutes both science and a scientific theory disqualifies him from serving as a science educator.” The concern is not about Gonzalez’s politics or religion but about his ability to serve as a science educator.
Let's see if I have a grasp on your thinking here (or the rationale you're defending): ID is not science because there is no research being done on ID, and those who research ID are not researching science because ID is not science because no research is being done on ID, and those who research ID are not researching science because...angryoldfatman
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[...] centuries, naturalism has worked very well in explaining the natural world. There’s no reason... Maya: pwieland wrote: “How does the number of referred articles, grant revenue and number of [...]Reflections on today’s amazing revelations in the Guillermo Gonzalez case | Uncommon Descent
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pwieland wrote: "How does the number of referred articles, grant revenue and number of graduate students compare with others within ISU who did get tenure?" That's a good question that requires some research. I can tell you that seven refereed articles in three years is exceptionally low by my department's standard. I'll try to find the numbers for anyone recently granted tenure by ISU -- if you find them before I do, please post them here. "From what I understand, grant revenue is a spurious statistic since astronomy requires a bit less revenue than other fields." The comparison was between Gonzalez and the average for his department. His twenty-something thousand doesn't stand up to the $1.3 million average.Maya
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I can't figure out why people send and save these incriminating emails. Also, grantsmanship has little or nothing to do with quality of research.Larry Fafarman
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Does anybody seriously expect that professors whose work is highly controversial will be considered for tenure without that controversy entering into discussion? It happens all the time in, say, Near East studies. Think Norman Finkelstein, Nadia Abu El-Haj, or Joseph Massad. Whatever you think about the disposition of these cases, none of these people are stupid enough to think that controversial work will not be, well, controversial.getawitness
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Maya - How does the number of referred articles, grant revenue and number of graduate students compare with others within ISU who did get tenure? From what I understand, grant revenue is a spurious statistic since astronomy requires a bit less revenue than other fields. But I would grant you the other points, if you can provide me with some comparisons within the university. That is, does Gonzalez have a comparable record of referred material within his department and university?pwieland
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SeekAndFind wrote: "If what Maya said regarding Gonzalez’s ability to generate outside grant money vs. the average of $1.3 Million of those who were tenured is true ( see post #8 above ), then Gonzalez’s appeal will probably be denied ( but then that is *IF* Maya’s claims can be verified )." I gave the source of that cite as the Des Moines Register. It's pretty easy to verify yourself. I have a question for you: If you check my facts and determine that they are correct, in particular that Gonzalez produced only seven refereed articles in the past three years, generated a miniscule amount of grant revenue, and did not have any graduate students who completed their doctoral work, will you agree that ISU is justified in not offering tenure?Maya
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angryoldfatman wrote: "Which is exactly why the people who denied GG tenure rightfully talked amongst themselves about his productivity and graciously ignored his politics and religious views. Oh wait, they didn't do that." You may be being misled by part of the summary above. Ms. O'Leary wrote: "Contrary to his public statements, and those of ISU President Gregory Geoffroy, the chairman of ISU’s Department of Physics and Astronomy, Dr. Eli Rosenberg, stated in Dr. Gonzalez’s tenure dossier that Dr. Gonzalez’s support for intelligent design 'disqualifies him from serving as a science educator.'" The full context of that quotation is: “on numerous occasions, Dr. Gonzalez has stated that Intelligent Design is a scientific theory and someday would be taught in science classrooms. This is confirmed by his numerous postings on the Discovery Institute Web site. The problem here is that Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory. Its premise is beyond the realm of science. … But it is incumbent on a science educator to clearly understand and be able to articulate what science is and what it is not. The fact that Dr. Gonzalez does not understand what constitutes both science and a scientific theory disqualifies him from serving as a science educator.” The concern is not about Gonzalez's politics or religion but about his ability to serve as a science educator.Maya
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Maya @ 10 wrote:
Regardless of political or religious views, any other tenure applicant with a similar publication and grant history would be denied.
Which is exactly why the people who denied GG tenure rightfully talked amongst themselves about his productivity and graciously ignored his politics and religious views. Oh wait, they didn't do that. Silly me.angryoldfatman
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-------------------- RE: where does the school list the ability to generate money as a requirement for tenure? -------------------- I think the answer is from the administrators themselves ( i.e. those who are evaluating his tenure application ). Here are the OFFICIAL reasons cited for denying Gonzalez tenure ( none of them related to his work on ID) : Geoffroy said he focused his review on Gonzalez’s overall record of scientific accomplishment as an assistant professor at ISU. He also said he: 1) Considered peer review publications, 2) Gonzalez’s level of success in attracting research funding and grants, 3) The amount of telescope observing time he had been granted, 4) The number of graduate students he had supervised and 5) The overall evidence of his future career promise in the field of astronomy. It seems to be the main issues are #2, #3, and #4 above. If what Maya said regarding Gonzalez's ability to generate outside grant money vs. the average of $1.3 Million of those who were tenured is true ( see post #8 above ), then Gonzalez's appeal will probably be denied ( but then that is *IF* Maya's claims can be verified ).SeekAndFind
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That's _Miss_ Maya, thank you very much! The ability to generate grant revenue is always part of tenure decisions at research universities. I'm a grad student and grants are how my faculty advisor pays for his research, including my little stipend.Maya
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Maya wrote: "his productivity at ISU has been very low, as has his ability to bring in grant money" Mr. Maya, where does the school list the ability to generate money as a requirement for tenure? Considering that Gonzalez's case has the potential of soon passing through the rigors of a court proceeding, the school will be hard pressed to have the evidence readily available.JPCollado
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TTauri wrote: "It seems to me Gonzalez has contributed a subsantial amount towards advancement in many areas of astronomy with the work on GHZ alone." That work wasn't done at ISU and his productivity at ISU has been very low, as has his ability to bring in grant money. Regardless of political or religious views, any other tenure applicant with a similar publication and grant history would be denied.Maya
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I posted on the tail end of the previous Gonzalez thread, but part of it applies to comments here as well: . . . It seems we can agree that universities attempt to draw researchers who will increase the respectability of their institutions. A way this happens is through development of productive concepts that expand scientific research. One can judge how productive a concept has been by its use in the field by other researchers as well as it’s ability augment or refine current methodologies and production of new ones. Judging from journal citations and appearance in popular scientific journals and newspaper articles, G. Gonzalez’s lead author article on GHZ in Icarus has been a productive and novel one. So in this respect, aside from his many other scientific contributions, it’s hard to see how he could not meet even a high bar set for tenure. . . . It seems to me Gonzalez has contributed a subsantial amount towards advancement in many areas of astronomy with the work on GHZ alone. I'm not sure how someone could say otherwise.TTauri
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bFast wrote: "My understanding of the case against Gonzalez is that while he was at ISU he has published near nothing in scientific journals, and has done little of recognized scientific note. The suggestion is that Gonzalez has become so focused on his 'Privelaged Planet' work that he has ceased to function within the mainstream of science. Based on some quick research, Gonzalez published few articles while at ISU: 2002: 7 2003: 10 2004: 2 2005: 2 2006: 3 Prior to joining ISU, Gonzalez published 44 articles. As far as generating grant revenue, the Des Moines Register reports that "Iowa State has sponsored $22,661 in outside grant money for Gonzalez since July 2001, records show. In that same time period, Gonzalez's peers in physics and astronomy secured an average of $1.3 million by the time they were granted tenure." From a teaching perspective, none of the graduate students Gonzalez is advising have completed their doctoral work, although he has been at ISU since 2001. Back to bFast: "Is this case against him valid or not?" To be granted tenure, you must demonstrate how you will be an asset to the department. Compared to his peers, Gonzalez has not performed well. "If it is valid, does ISU have the right to deny his tenure?" Tenure is not automatic. 25% of the applicants for tenure at ISU this year were denied.Maya
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Okay, I guess I am on the wrong page. I thought the point was justice for Guillermo, which would be served by an unbiased review of his tenure application. Reviewing the emails, and performing an inquiry, seems to be more about retribution than justice.poachy
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I think the Regents should hear the whole story because the decision was apparently not made on the basis of his record and that is, in itself, of the greatest interest. In fact, I think they should launch an inquiry, if possible.O'Leary
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But now here’s the really amazing thing: The Regents, to whom Gonzalez is appealing, are refusing, on a technicality, to examine the damning e-mails. (He should have known about the e-mails, you see … ) That way they can turn Gonzalez down despite what has happened.
I'm not sure I follow, Denyse. Part of the narrative that we have been telling about Gonzalez is that the department faculty did not limit their analysis to his tenure dossier, but used external (and irrelevant) information to justify turning him down. Shouldn't we want the Board of Regents to solely evaluate his scientific and educational accomplishments, as laid out in his tenure application, to make a decision? Are you really advocating that the Regents should engage in affirmative action because Gonzalez is being oppressed? Doesn't that undermine our contention that his scientific accomplishments are impeccable and more than sufficient for a positive tenure decision?poachy
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My understanding of the case against Gonzalez is that while he was at ISU he has published near nothing in scientific journals, and has done little of recognized scientific note. The suggestion is that Gonzalez has become so focused on his "Privelaged Planet" work that he has ceased to function within the mainstream of science. Is this case against him valid or not? If it is valid, does ISU have the right to deny his tenure? We challenge the Darwinian community all of the time, and disrespect them when they do not respond with an evidenciary case. I would like to see us respond to the above challenge with an evidencuary case. How many times has Gonzalez been published since he took his professorship? How much grant money has his name on it? Is there a valid case against him that the ID community chooses to ignore, or is he truly being railroaded?bFast
December 3, 2007
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I just don't get it, I just don't get it at all. Science was pointing to a purposeless existence. This was truly a very very sad state for us to accept for our fates, but was grudgingly accepted by many people, because it was apparently the truth of how things actually are for us. (And indeed that is how the truth appeared to be "scientifically" for many years, until the Big Bang gave us a small glimmer of hope of life that transcends this one!) Yet here in astronomy, by work done by Guillermo Gonzalez and his colleagues (on his own time by the way), we have clarification of data pointing to the fact that the Earth is indeed a very "Privileged Planet" to live on in this universe. http://www.illustramedia.com/tppinfo.htm Why should this planet be so special? OF COURSE, it begs the obvious question,,Is the Earth designed? As well it points to the possibility that humans may be special after all. Indeed this discovery should be cause for joy in our hearts since it points to something far greater for us! Yet, for merely pointing out the obvious inference to Design, Guillermo Gonzalez is persecuted by ISU officials. This response by them is beyond idiotic!!! The response is not, WOW what a truly wonderful, wonderful discovery, Thank You so much Guillermo Gonzalez for giving us a little more solid hope for purpose in our lives, and by the way, here is your tenure, with ringing endorsement, for you to continue your wonderful, wonderful work. It is instead, How dare you suggest that science may find purpose after all. Not to mention the backstabbing and name calling, instigated by, of all people, an atheistic religious professor (give me the logic behind that tenure), who can't be troubled with any scientific evidence that there actually may be a more wonderful life after this one. Indeed, these people have definitely got their priorities, and perspectives, severely twisted in a deluded knot.bornagain77
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