Does Good come from God II – Harris vs Lane
|April 8, 2011||Posted by DLH under Atheism, Creationism, Design inference, Ethics, Evolutionary psychology, Intelligent Design, Neuroscience, Philosophy, Psychology, Religion, Science|
The debate: Does Good Come From God II by Sam Harris vs William Lane Harris 7 April 2011 at Notre Dame is now on YouTube.
Part 9 of 9 – Harris vs Craig – Does Good Come From God
Apologetics 315 has posted the audio link the Full Debate MP3 Audio here (120 min)
I found the debate a fascinating test of technical debating skills vs red herrings and emotional appeals. (PS please post links to transcripts when available.)
This debate provides an interesting framework within which to examine the ID related question:
Does Information come from an Intelligent Agent?
Harris claimed that the axioms of science are accepted and obvious to everyone and provide the basis for proving there is no god. However, atheists commonly presuppose naturalistic materialism.
How can one scientifically examine if an intelligent agent exists or is causative, if one a priori excludes intelligent agents from possible causes?
I posit that in testing for an intelligent cause, one must presuppose:
1) Intelligent agents exist. (e.g. humans)
2) Intelligent agents can influence nature. (e.g. this post)
3) Some intelligent intervention can be detected. (e.g., forensics)
4) An intelligent agent may be a cause for an observed phenomena.
April 11 See JonnyB’s follow on post: