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	<title>Comments on: Peer review: Life, death, and the British Medical Journal</title>
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		<title>By: ajones</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@waterbear #6.

Thanks for pointing that out.  My attribution to the BMJ was incorrect.

@mung #7.

If you&#039;d care to elaborate, what types of deaths are you referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@waterbear #6.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out.  My attribution to the BMJ was incorrect.</p>
<p>@mung #7.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d care to elaborate, what types of deaths are you referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: Allen_MacNeill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen_MacNeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For data on deaths from warfare since 1945, go here (pdf):
http://www.cissm.umd.edu/papers/files/deathswarsconflictsjune252006.pdf
here:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
and here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/POSTWWII.HTM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For data on deaths from warfare since 1945, go here (pdf):<br />
<a href="http://www.cissm.umd.edu/papers/files/deathswarsconflictsjune252006.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cissm.umd.edu/paper.....252006.pdf</a><br />
here:<br />
<a href="http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm</a><br />
and here:<br />
<a href="http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/POSTWWII.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/POSTWWII.HTM</a></p>
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		<title>By: JamesBond</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesBond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally comment on the non-ID articles here, but I genuinely interested:

What alternative system of review of scientific publications would ID advocates put forward?

I hope this doesn&#039;t sound &quot;arrogant&quot; or &quot;provocative&quot;, I&#039;m genuinely interested. To me, it seems to be much like the great Churchill quote:

&quot;Democracy is the worst system of government... apart from all the others.&quot;

For democracy read peer review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally comment on the non-ID articles here, but I genuinely interested:</p>
<p>What alternative system of review of scientific publications would ID advocates put forward?</p>
<p>I hope this doesn&#8217;t sound &#8220;arrogant&#8221; or &#8220;provocative&#8221;, I&#8217;m genuinely interested. To me, it seems to be much like the great Churchill quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Democracy is the worst system of government&#8230; apart from all the others.&#8221;</p>
<p>For democracy read peer review.</p>
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		<title>By: O'Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easier for me to think of reasons why war deaths might have decreased rather than increased from 1945 to now. 

That said, the paper - if properly vetted for facts - might be a useful stimulant for clear thinking. 

We don&#039;t have enough of that, these days. Too many people mistake politically correct thinking or sentimentality for sound judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easier for me to think of reasons why war deaths might have decreased rather than increased from 1945 to now. </p>
<p>That said, the paper &#8211; if properly vetted for facts &#8211; might be a useful stimulant for clear thinking. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have enough of that, these days. Too many people mistake politically correct thinking or sentimentality for sound judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: waterbear</title>
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		<dc:creator>waterbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ajones #6:
&lt;blockquote&gt; The inclusion of these tens of millions of deaths (100MM deaths?) would likely invert the BMJ’s findings; a 90% increase rather than decrease.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Those are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the BMJ&#039;s findings. The BMJ&#039;s error-filled and contested improperly-reviewed &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yfg55xw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; found &quot;War causes more deaths than previously estimated, and there is no evidence to support a recent decline in war deaths.&quot;
It is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsrgroup.org/images/stories/Documents/JCR_EstimatingWarDeaths.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;critics of the BMJ&lt;/a&gt; who are defending the integrity of prior studies which claim a 90% reduction in war deaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajones #6:</p>
<blockquote><p> The inclusion of these tens of millions of deaths (100MM deaths?) would likely invert the BMJ’s findings; a 90% increase rather than decrease.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Those are <i>not</i> the BMJ&#8217;s findings. The BMJ&#8217;s error-filled and contested improperly-reviewed <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfg55xw" rel="nofollow">paper</a> found &#8220;War causes more deaths than previously estimated, and there is no evidence to support a recent decline in war deaths.&#8221;<br />
It is the <a href="http://www.hsrgroup.org/images/stories/Documents/JCR_EstimatingWarDeaths.pdf" rel="nofollow">critics of the BMJ</a> who are defending the integrity of prior studies which claim a 90% reduction in war deaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about those deaths due to the American Fundamentalist war on science?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about those deaths due to the American Fundamentalist war on science?</p>
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		<title>By: ajones</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if one could include the tens of millions killed under communist regimes as &quot;war&quot; deaths.  The communist/atheist elite certainly waged war on the hapless peasants, if one defines war as mass killing to obtain political objectives.  The inclusion of these tens of millions  of deaths (100MM deaths?) would likely invert the BMJ&#039;s findings; a 90% increase rather than decrease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if one could include the tens of millions killed under communist regimes as &#8220;war&#8221; deaths.  The communist/atheist elite certainly waged war on the hapless peasants, if one defines war as mass killing to obtain political objectives.  The inclusion of these tens of millions  of deaths (100MM deaths?) would likely invert the BMJ&#8217;s findings; a 90% increase rather than decrease.</p>
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		<title>By: waterbear</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/peer-review/peer-review-life-death-and-the-british-medical-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-343591</link>
		<dc:creator>waterbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Researchers from Canada, the UK and Sweden have slammed the influential British Medical Journal (BMJ) for publishing an error-filled study on global war deaths, refusing an equivalent rebuttal article and having a flawed peer-review process.&lt;/i&gt;

After climategate and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/signatuein-the-cell-darwinist-demands-to-rewrite-product-copy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zongate&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conservapedia.com/Climategate#Googlegate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;googlegate&lt;/a&gt;, now medicinegate! Journal papers with errors in them are especially troubling given the way in which they are accepted as inviolate and uncontestable truth by believers. What is needed is for these tax-burden flunky &quot;scholars&quot; to allow some kind of ongoing criticism and correction of papers, or even for independent analysis and reproduction of published work to be encouraged. Until the day that happens it&#039;s wiser not to trust this so called &quot;medical science&quot; with its consensus maintained by obviously hopeless &quot;peer review&quot;. 
I wouldn&#039;t trust an electrician who only catches 1/3 of the problems with my house&#039;s wiring, so I for one will not place confidence in a doctor whose &quot;knowledge&quot; has been gleaned from this corrupted establishment. From now on I will rely on my local Faith Healer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Researchers from Canada, the UK and Sweden have slammed the influential British Medical Journal (BMJ) for publishing an error-filled study on global war deaths, refusing an equivalent rebuttal article and having a flawed peer-review process.</i></p>
<p>After climategate and <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/signatuein-the-cell-darwinist-demands-to-rewrite-product-copy" rel="nofollow">zongate</a> and <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Climategate#Googlegate" rel="nofollow">googlegate</a>, now medicinegate! Journal papers with errors in them are especially troubling given the way in which they are accepted as inviolate and uncontestable truth by believers. What is needed is for these tax-burden flunky &#8220;scholars&#8221; to allow some kind of ongoing criticism and correction of papers, or even for independent analysis and reproduction of published work to be encouraged. Until the day that happens it&#8217;s wiser not to trust this so called &#8220;medical science&#8221; with its consensus maintained by obviously hopeless &#8220;peer review&#8221;.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t trust an electrician who only catches 1/3 of the problems with my house&#8217;s wiring, so I for one will not place confidence in a doctor whose &#8220;knowledge&#8221; has been gleaned from this corrupted establishment. From now on I will rely on my local Faith Healer.</p>
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		<title>By: O'Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Frank at 2 is clearly not a WordPerfect 12 user. :) 

Sweet to me are the days when I can simply compose rapidly, with the split screen showing the codes below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Frank at 2 is clearly not a WordPerfect 12 user. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Sweet to me are the days when I can simply compose rapidly, with the split screen showing the codes below.</p>
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		<title>By: osteonectin</title>
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		<dc:creator>osteonectin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Software?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Indeed. Especially when it comes to the dissection of digital organisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Software?</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. Especially when it comes to the dissection of digital organisms.</p>
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