Off topic: Single payer health care
| October 11, 2009 | Posted by O'Leary under Off Topic |
Here I was recently treated to an interesting display of Darwinist logic.
A commenter demanded that I provide proof that in a single-payer health system like Canada’s, older people are being abandoned to die. Another suggested I just shut up about it.
Sorry. Go here for how bad it can get.
It’s a matter of simple logic, really. Sarah Palin’s death panels are alive and well in Canada because we have a single government payer health system.
I don’t care what you think of Palin. But this much I know is true:
If the government is the only entity permitted to open a new bed in a hospital, this is what happens: You have a 55 year-old high school math teacher (Old Lady Smith*) and a 75 year-old retired high school math teacher (Old Lady Jones).
Who gets the bed? Who gets shunted off to die somewhere?
The obvious solution is more beds. But if only the government can pay …
The big problem with single payer government systems is that everyone is into government’s pocket for anything from an Olympic skating pavilion to new benches in the public park.
Only a few people have serious core health care issues, and they are usually diverse. So the lobby is small, fragmented, largely unheard.
Hey, if you can figure that one out, you are smarter than some of our commenters/trolls/ex-trolls.
The last time I took a politics test, I flunked “right wingness”, which is fine with me. I am talking about a practical issue. In Canada, Old Lady Jones isn’t legally allowed to just make her own arrangements, assuming she wants to be 85 or so before she pegs out.
I was intrigued by the difficulty some Darwinists had understanding her problem (= she needs a hospital bed but can’t legally pay for one), when it is a matter of simple logic.
Maybe they overdosed on “natural selection” and “the mind is an illusion created by neurons”?
*No, Old Lady Smith is not old by my standards, but that is how the teens on whom she forces algebra regard her. They can’t believe she ever had a life, even if she has a husband and six kids, which pretty much guarantees you would have a life.
Meanwhile, “Now, class, please turn to page 63 …. Factorials.”
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As for France, Canada,
French healthcare, WHO says,
“best in the world” nationalized healtchare system in deep debt. They don’t know how they’re going to pay for rising cost.
Socialized debt
Canadian care enslaves people?
Government forced care, Seeking other solutions
15,000 die in French heatwave disaster…
No 1. healthcare in world lets 15,000 die
Adverse events cause up to 24K deaths a year
“The Canadian Adverse Events Study reports that “adverse events” in Canadian hospitals result in 9,000- 24,000 deaths every year (“Universal Problems…”). Nonlethal events keep Canadians in hospitals for a total of over a million extra days per year (“Universal Problems…”).”
Tax rates of nations…
It appears that government healthcare does not solve anything. It merely forces a one-size fits all plan on everyone but the Political Masters of Society.
2004 report on waiting time in Canada…
Waiting to die
I propose several measures to alleviate America’s healtcare problems.
1) Remove American Military from around the world, from all corners of the world. Let Europe, Japan, Taiwan, Phillipines and every other nation defend itself with their own military and their own money. Transfer all cost savings to cover current unfunded liabilities in medicare, medicaid and social security for the American people.
2) Stop funding all other nations, mainly third world nations with medical care, food, medicine and water treatment. Transfer all savings to Americans. We’ve given trillions to the world. Its time we take care of our own people. And let the world take care of itself. Maybe Japan, China, Russia and Eurupe can do half of what America has done to save lives around the world?
3) Stop Americans funding abortions around the world. Transfer money back to American poor for healthcare.
4) Stop funding democrat donors favored projects, like George Soros’s investment in Petrobas, Brazil. Instead, provide low-cost loans for Americna projects, not Brazilian or other nations.
5) Start charging more money or taxing all drugs and patents that America creates to all other nations. We own the majority of clinical studies, research, discoveries and medicines in the world. Yet, the American people pay more for their drugs than other nations like Canada. Canadians, French, Brits, Japanese should all have to pay the same as Americans. Any nation that copies our drugs illegaly shall be cutoff from the world by our stronger defenses as a result of not protecting the whole world from evil tyrants and communist.
The rest is domestic and already known. We allow more competition in all states. For example, I can get a cheaper Humana plan, but a friend of mine cannot get it in another state. This is government controlled sanctions against Americans. We need to free our nation for competition, not limit it by government controls. And of course tort reform, where Mississippi and Texas are already seeing lower cost and more doctors flowing into their states.
There, that should do it. Anyone else with ideas on how to save American lives and money? I think the world is grown up enough to take care of itself now, don’t you? Without the evil American empire?
They can hire Obama after he finishes. If the world clamors so much for a marxist loving leader, they deserve it.
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French healthcare, WHO says,
“best in the world” nationalized healtchare system in deep debt. They don’t know how they’re going to pay for rising cost.
If France has a problem with the cost of its healthcare then where does that put the US? France spends 11% of GDP per capita on healthcare. US spends 16% of a higher GPD per capita. In France it is the government who has a problem paying. In the US it is individuals and employers and government.
Healthcare costs money. It is no secret. The trick is to get as much as possible from that money and distribute the results equitablty.
I mean she (or you) would be looking at $40 a month –at least for my zip code for a 24-year-old female.
You know, something else I don’t think young people or their parents consider. The cost for insurance — probably through a mandated requirement to buy it — will rise considerably for the young under a single-payer plan since the criteria will no longer be based on risk but on the need to fund the system which will invariably increase since the market will not be there to constrain the inevitable growth in bureaucracy.