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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263665</link>
		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....that Nobel prize could have gone to good use....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.that Nobel prize could have gone to good use&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263657</link>
		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming importance = 0% in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1063a4EconomyandIraq.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ABC election poll.&lt;/a&gt; of 

&lt;blockquote&gt;ABC and the Washington Post polled Americans about the most important issue to them in the upcoming elections. The economy ranked #1 with 41%, Iraq #2 with 18%, Health Care #3 with 7%, Terrorism/National Security #4 with 5%, Immigration and Ethics followed with 4%, Education and Morals with 2%, Environment and Global Warming continue to receive a 0%.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Thanks to &lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ABC Poll: GW rates a big fat zero&lt;/a&gt; at WattsUpWithThat )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming importance = 0% in <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1063a4EconomyandIraq.pdf" rel="nofollow">ABC election poll.</a> of </p>
<blockquote><p>ABC and the Washington Post polled Americans about the most important issue to them in the upcoming elections. The economy ranked #1 with 41%, Iraq #2 with 18%, Health Care #3 with 7%, Terrorism/National Security #4 with 5%, Immigration and Ethics followed with 4%, Education and Morals with 2%, Environment and Global Warming continue to receive a 0%.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Thanks to <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/" rel="nofollow">ABC Poll: GW rates a big fat zero</a> at WattsUpWithThat )</p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263521</link>
		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Global Cooling Catastrophe YouTube series provides some food for thought on the historic and future impact of sunspot changes that may have caused the &quot;Little Ice Age&quot; etc. 

&lt;a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcjgg1NoJ0s&amp;feature=related” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Cooling Catastrophe 1&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWcTI98dRU” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Global Cooling Catastrophe 2 &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9NRvlM4Jo&amp;feature=related” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Cooling Catastrophe 3&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMvcog9fHE&amp;feature=related” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Cooling Catastrophe 4&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67n7pRAHg8&amp;feature=related” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Cooling Catastrophe 5&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Global Cooling Catastrophe YouTube series provides some food for thought on the historic and future impact of sunspot changes that may have caused the &#8220;Little Ice Age&#8221; etc. </p>
<p><a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcjgg1NoJ0s&#038;feature=related” rel="nofollow">Global Cooling Catastrophe 1</a><br />
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWcTI98dRU” rel="nofollow"> Global Cooling Catastrophe 2 </a><br />
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9NRvlM4Jo&#038;feature=related” rel="nofollow">Global Cooling Catastrophe 3</a><br />
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMvcog9fHE&#038;feature=related” rel="nofollow">Global Cooling Catastrophe 4</a><br />
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67n7pRAHg8&#038;feature=related” rel="nofollow">Global Cooling Catastrophe 5</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263519</link>
		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See interview of scientist Bill Carter: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgaeyMa3jyU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Climate Change - has it been cancelled?&lt;/a&gt;

New Zealand has committed under the Kyoto protocol to Decrease methane. Yet methane DECREASING for last ten years.

Emission trading bill - certain to increase electricity and damage the economy.

He sees major intimidation against scientists speaking out.

He notes the most dangerous type of climate change is COOLING. That would cause major damage to food supply. We don&#039;t try to stop volcanoes or hurricanes. 

We should adapt to it and help those particularly damaged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See interview of scientist Bill Carter:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgaeyMa3jyU" rel="nofollow">Climate Change &#8211; has it been cancelled?</a></p>
<p>New Zealand has committed under the Kyoto protocol to Decrease methane. Yet methane DECREASING for last ten years.</p>
<p>Emission trading bill &#8211; certain to increase electricity and damage the economy.</p>
<p>He sees major intimidation against scientists speaking out.</p>
<p>He notes the most dangerous type of climate change is COOLING. That would cause major damage to food supply. We don&#8217;t try to stop volcanoes or hurricanes. </p>
<p>We should adapt to it and help those particularly damaged.</p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263508</link>
		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;An Urgent Signal for a Coming Ice Age&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Ah phooey.  Just when I thought I had parted with the jacket-wearing days, here comes the weather giving us 45-50 degree temperatures in Jersey.

Global Warming can be really unpredictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;An Urgent Signal for a Coming Ice Age&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Ah phooey.  Just when I thought I had parted with the jacket-wearing days, here comes the weather giving us 45-50 degree temperatures in Jersey.</p>
<p>Global Warming can be really unpredictable.</p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ICECAP.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ICECAP&lt;/a&gt; is the web site for climate experts addressing ALL climate change issues. They just posted Peter Harris&#039; Apr 27, 2008
&lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An Urgent Signal for a Coming Ice Age &lt;/a&gt; This resurrects the Milankovitch parameters of Precession, Obliquity and Eccentricity. Combining this with Solar Forcing appears to give a strong signal for the transition from interglacial to glacial periods. The peak in temperature and Solar Forcing may have been 1998. Thus Harris highlights that we may be coming out of the interglacial into the next glacial period. Global warming models have apparently ignored these parameters. Harris&#039; model projects the temperature is likely to decline over the coming decades.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
When paleoclimatologists met in 1972 to discuss how and when the present warm climate would end , termination of this warm climate we call the Holocene seemed imminent and it was expected that rapid cooling would lead to the coming ice age. These ideas were based on the 1M year analogue for climate transitions first proposed by Milankovitch over 60 years ago, which has been demonstrated to show the correlation of glacial and interglacial climate with solar insolation as it is modulated by our changing distance from the sun. These data sets may be used to serve as a signal for the coming ice age. Orbital geometry was approaching similar conditions to those of the previous transitions to ice. 

But soon it was observed that global temperature was increasing and at about this time Global Climate Modeling GCM received more attention and the Milankovitch analogue was forgotten. There has been no further discussion about the coming ice age. The data below was compiled by the mathematicians Quinn, Levine et al in 1991 and Insolation values due to Precession, Obliquity and Eccentricity as well as total insolation or Solar Forcing are charted on the same time scale as Stages of Glaciation representing climate. This climate data was provided by Lisieckie and Raymo and is based on sediment proxies. The climate data shows close agreement with ice core data based on a different proxy. Produced in 1991 this chart confirms the correlation of climate transitions with insolation which is modulated by Earth position in orbit and was first proposed by Milankovitch over 60 years ago. 

 
See &lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SolarVariables.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full size graph here&lt;/a&gt; 

In studying the analogue there is no use of a GCM which is subject to limitations and interpretation. Use of the analogue is based on simple observation of clear empirical data and the archeological record of temperature. The data and the correlation are sound. The geological record shows that the transitions are sudden, long term and extreme. All of the Milankovitch parameters for a transition are satisfied by the present orbital position. We have already seen extreme winter conditions and T appears to be declining in the short term. The decline will continue under rapidly declining insolation and the coincident effect of reduced solar activity which has also been correlated with temperature in the past. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Read full opinion piece
&lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; An Urgent Signal for the Coming Ice Age pdf&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ICECAP.us" rel="nofollow">ICECAP</a> is the web site for climate experts addressing ALL climate change issues. They just posted Peter Harris&#8217; Apr 27, 2008<br />
<a href="http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf" rel="nofollow">An Urgent Signal for a Coming Ice Age </a> This resurrects the Milankovitch parameters of Precession, Obliquity and Eccentricity. Combining this with Solar Forcing appears to give a strong signal for the transition from interglacial to glacial periods. The peak in temperature and Solar Forcing may have been 1998. Thus Harris highlights that we may be coming out of the interglacial into the next glacial period. Global warming models have apparently ignored these parameters. Harris&#8217; model projects the temperature is likely to decline over the coming decades.</p>
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When paleoclimatologists met in 1972 to discuss how and when the present warm climate would end , termination of this warm climate we call the Holocene seemed imminent and it was expected that rapid cooling would lead to the coming ice age. These ideas were based on the 1M year analogue for climate transitions first proposed by Milankovitch over 60 years ago, which has been demonstrated to show the correlation of glacial and interglacial climate with solar insolation as it is modulated by our changing distance from the sun. These data sets may be used to serve as a signal for the coming ice age. Orbital geometry was approaching similar conditions to those of the previous transitions to ice. </p>
<p>But soon it was observed that global temperature was increasing and at about this time Global Climate Modeling GCM received more attention and the Milankovitch analogue was forgotten. There has been no further discussion about the coming ice age. The data below was compiled by the mathematicians Quinn, Levine et al in 1991 and Insolation values due to Precession, Obliquity and Eccentricity as well as total insolation or Solar Forcing are charted on the same time scale as Stages of Glaciation representing climate. This climate data was provided by Lisieckie and Raymo and is based on sediment proxies. The climate data shows close agreement with ice core data based on a different proxy. Produced in 1991 this chart confirms the correlation of climate transitions with insolation which is modulated by Earth position in orbit and was first proposed by Milankovitch over 60 years ago. </p>
<p>See <a href="http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SolarVariables.jpg" rel="nofollow">full size graph here</a> </p>
<p>In studying the analogue there is no use of a GCM which is subject to limitations and interpretation. Use of the analogue is based on simple observation of clear empirical data and the archeological record of temperature. The data and the correlation are sound. The geological record shows that the transitions are sudden, long term and extreme. All of the Milankovitch parameters for a transition are satisfied by the present orbital position. We have already seen extreme winter conditions and T appears to be declining in the short term. The decline will continue under rapidly declining insolation and the coincident effect of reduced solar activity which has also been correlated with temperature in the past. </p></blockquote>
<p>Read full opinion piece<br />
<a href="http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf" rel="nofollow"> An Urgent Signal for the Coming Ice Age pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263435</link>
		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS JUST IN:

Global Warming spilled record-breaking 22 inches of snow in Alaska this past Friday and Saturday.

See
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/387743.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS JUST IN:</p>
<p>Global Warming spilled record-breaking 22 inches of snow in Alaska this past Friday and Saturday.</p>
<p>See<br />
<a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/387743.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/387743.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zakrzewski</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/nobel-laureate-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-262526</link>
		<dc:creator>Zakrzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an environmentalist, I must admit that I&#039;m annoyed at Mr. Gore.  I don&#039;t think using false footage is a good way to make people take climate change seriously.  It leaves the public to question the wisdom of trusting anything Al Gore says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an environmentalist, I must admit that I&#8217;m annoyed at Mr. Gore.  I don&#8217;t think using false footage is a good way to make people take climate change seriously.  It leaves the public to question the wisdom of trusting anything Al Gore says.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathsteach2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathsteach2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion seems to be mostly about posts disappearing, rather than ice-caps! Ah well, there may be a connection, perhaps we should call it Internet Warming. Jerry (post 8) states the obvious solution. I learnt by experience. I am not a regular poster here or anywhere, but as I used to do with letters to the dead tree press,  I always kept copies before I sent anything. If I take the time to type something out, rather than talking off the top of my head, I feel it is worth saving, at least for a short while.

Concerning melting ice-caps, it seems to me that satellite imagery is conclusive, so we do not need real or imagined pictures of falling ice-cliffs. Unless, of course, we are of the opinion that it&#039;s all fake, like those who say we never landed on the moon because it was all a great Hollywood spoof!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion seems to be mostly about posts disappearing, rather than ice-caps! Ah well, there may be a connection, perhaps we should call it Internet Warming. Jerry (post <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> states the obvious solution. I learnt by experience. I am not a regular poster here or anywhere, but as I used to do with letters to the dead tree press,  I always kept copies before I sent anything. If I take the time to type something out, rather than talking off the top of my head, I feel it is worth saving, at least for a short while.</p>
<p>Concerning melting ice-caps, it seems to me that satellite imagery is conclusive, so we do not need real or imagined pictures of falling ice-cliffs. Unless, of course, we are of the opinion that it&#8217;s all fake, like those who say we never landed on the moon because it was all a great Hollywood spoof!</p>
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		<title>By: Horace_Worblehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace_Worblehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My success rate posting here is approximately 20% i.e. 80% of my posts just dissapear.  

Just what percentage of posts here are &#039;Spam&#039; anyway?  I moderate on two blogs and contribute to many, and comment spam is a minor inconvenience (1-2% of posts) usually cleaned up after the fact. 

Either the spam filter is rejecting 80% of the posts or all posts are being reviewed by the  moderators  for content before they are published. That&#039;s the only reason I can think of for the delay and loss. 

Here&#039;s a suggestion.  Turn of the spam filter. Allow posts to be published immediately and deal with the few exceptions. Ban trolls and announce their banning so that other posters know who has been banned and why.

{DLH I counted 5 comments and 71 spams when I despammed yours. No trolls. No comments deleted.}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My success rate posting here is approximately 20% i.e. 80% of my posts just dissapear.  </p>
<p>Just what percentage of posts here are &#8216;Spam&#8217; anyway?  I moderate on two blogs and contribute to many, and comment spam is a minor inconvenience (1-2% of posts) usually cleaned up after the fact. </p>
<p>Either the spam filter is rejecting 80% of the posts or all posts are being reviewed by the  moderators  for content before they are published. That&#8217;s the only reason I can think of for the delay and loss. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion.  Turn of the spam filter. Allow posts to be published immediately and deal with the few exceptions. Ban trolls and announce their banning so that other posters know who has been banned and why.</p>
<p>{DLH I counted 5 comments and 71 spams when I despammed yours. No trolls. No comments deleted.}</p>
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