Uncommon Descent


17 September 2008

Crazy to be Republican? Hardly…

DaveScot

I’ve been reading a lot of claims about how it’s batsht crazy to support Governor Palin for VP. Yet she managed to enchant & energize the Republican party. I thought I’d check to see which party really has more crazy people in it.

November 2007 Gallup poll shows Republicans by a wide margin across all age, gender, income, and education levels report significantly better mental health than Democrats and Independents.

Republicans Report Much Better Mental Health Than Others
Relationship persists even when controlling for other variables
by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ — Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education.

The basic data — based on an aggregated sample of more than 4,000 interviews conducted since 2004 — are straightforward.

Read the rest of the survey…

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15 Responses

1

JDH

09/17/2008

3:38 pm

A much better question:

Which party has more arrogant people in it who think you would have to be “batsht” (sic) crazy to support the other side?

Note: This result might correlate with the mental health results. When you get it in your mind that you are superior and your opponents are dumb, and then they still win - its got to drive you nuts.

Wasn’t it Kerry who said, “I can’t believe I’m losing to this idiot.” - That kind of mental strain has to take its toll.


2

Gods iPod

09/17/2008

4:18 pm

Making you think there are only 2 choices is an intelligently designed construct.


3

Rude

09/17/2008

4:35 pm

But then when you realize that elitism, materialism, Darwinism, moral relativism, post-modernism, socialism, abortion, euthanasia, loathing of the religious, disrespect of America’s founding, the “living constitution,” the celebration of sodomy, speech codes … have moved mostly over on to one side of the political spectrum … what do you expect?


4

DaveScot

09/17/2008

5:02 pm

BKKnight

I anticipated at least some of your objections. They’re obvious. Before posting the above article I read several others. We appear to agree that self-reported mental health might be fairly characterized as self-reported happiness. Here’s one I read where the question was essentially “how happy are you”. Notably, Republican happiness didn’t decline when either Carter or Clinton was president so, at least for Republicans, who’s in the whitehouse makes no difference.

Why Republicans Are So Darn Happy

I also found other sources to confirm that Republicans have both higher average incomes and higher average number of years of college education. So you can’t blame stupidity. Years of education and income both correlate strongly with higher IQ.

So it’s basically a demonstrable fact that happy, smart, successful people are more likely to choose Republican.


5

Matteo

09/17/2008

5:05 pm

Perhaps it turns out that defending infanticide at all costs is not the royal road to happiness?


6

DaveScot

09/17/2008

5:23 pm

Here’s something that makes Republicans even more happy and Democrats less happy.

Republicans are procreating their way to larger numbers.

The Fertility Gap

Simply put, liberals have a big baby problem: They’re not having enough of them, they haven’t for a long time, and their pool of potential new voters is suffering as a result. According to the 2004 General Social Survey, if you picked 100 unrelated politically liberal adults at random, you would find that they had, between them, 147 children. If you picked 100 conservatives, you would find 208 kids. That’s a “fertility gap” of 41%. Given that about 80% of people with an identifiable party preference grow up to vote the same way as their parents, this gap translates into lots more little Republicans than little Democrats to vote in future elections. Over the past 30 years this gap has not been below 20%–explaining, to a large extent, the current ineffectiveness of liberal youth voter campaigns today.

The best line:

It would appear liberals have been quite successful controlling overpopulation–in the Democratic Party.

Runner up:

Democratic politicians may have no more babies left to kiss.


7

GCUGreyArea

09/17/2008

6:20 pm

This sounds rather familiar, I’m sure I saw a report about a study into (non US I think) happiness in relation to socio-political orientation, can’t remember where I saw it though.

The study concluded that the more conservative or ‘right wing’ you are the more likely you are to rate yourself as happy. The reason, according to the study, is that people with a more liberal mind set tend to be more concerned (or obsessed) with social injustice and the rights (or lack of rights) of others and thus rate themselves as less happy.


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JDH

09/17/2008

6:53 pm

GCUGreyArea -

Judging from some of your posts I have read you tend to the left side of the political spectrum.

I don’t have any studies to link to, so I am just going on anecdotal evidence from my life.

First of all, let’s admit that there are selfish people on both the right and the left who wouldn’t give the time of day to another human being. Let’s not consider them. Let’s just consider people who realize that there is something more important in life than the big ME.

Greatly generalizing…

. It seems to me that liberals are much more “concerned (or obssessed )” with the rights of “classes” of people. They tend to look more at macro scale problems. They look for government solutions. How can the government help this class of people.

People on the right tend to be more concerned with the person in front of them. They seem to much more take up the needs on a local level. They look for personal solutions. How can I be a help to this person.

I think the approach by the right of taking care of local needs is not only much better for society as a whole, but is much more rewarding personally.

Just my 2 cents


9

Rude

09/17/2008

7:50 pm

Oh the paranoia! The sky is falling, the globe is cooling, the globe is warming, population is exploding, famine is coming, AIDS will kill us, the theocracy is rising, the Republicans are racist, Bush is Hitler … Woe! Woe! Woe! The solution? All power to the state! And diminish the US and exalt the UN!

If you thought like that you’d be unhappy too!

“Social justice”? How does that differ from ordinary justice? It means socialism which means injustice which means robbing the productive to ease liberal guilt. There is no trickle down. There is no Designer, there is no free will, this life is all there is.

Traditionalists know what it is to love the sinner and hate the sin, the left hates the heretic and loves moral deviance. It’s liberating not to have to hate people, and the ability to distinguish between good and evil is liberating as well.


10

otoniel

09/17/2008

8:07 pm

DaveScot,

As implied earlier, it seems like a lost cause to use one’s self assessment as if it were a fact. Both studies, while they constitute a curiosity, are factually irrelevant.

But for sake of argument, even if we were to suppose that Republicans have greater mental health than Independents and Democrats; that doesn’t mean that Republicans aren’t making an unsound or erratic decision in supporting Sarah Palin. As even the most mentally healthy among us, is able to make poor decisions.


11

toc

09/17/2008

8:30 pm

Peter Schweitzer’s most recent book might be of some interest…

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/038551350X

Also, according to Johah Goldberg in LIBERAL FASCISM, the left has three primary legs to their ahem, political stool:

Identity politics, The Welfare State, and Abortion

I am a former liberal and changed my views after the ‘04 election. At least for me, the issue is rarely about the candidates, accept for the subsequent appointees to the courts; rather, it has more to do with how our society deals with truth ( in True Truth, as the late Francis Schaeffer said ).

Why did I become a conservative? Because I forced myself to answer questions raised by those three issues, among others.

I can’t say that I am that much “happier” today than I was three years ago, but I have far fewer intellectual conflicts.

The great fallacy about the left is how they really believe they are more intelligent than conservatives. I have found that when engaged in normal discourse with a liberal I simply have to ask them to explain one of their positions on one of the three legs noted above. I rarely take them all the way to their own conclusions because it would embarrass them. But take away the post-modern noise and they insist that their point of view is true. And when someone says that there is no objective truth they have simply refuted themselves.

I realized this and changed my internalized reference point to something, no, Someone external. There is a marked difference in my own sense of congruity, but many of my friendships have suffered because of this change.

Thanks for the post DaveScot.


12

F2XL

09/17/2008

10:04 pm

http://www.uncommondescent.com.....ent-295667

Perhaps he should do something a few of us are already familiar with:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

http://www.quiz2d.com


13

sacred

09/18/2008

12:43 am

Since Democrats feel that our country is going down the toilet and Republicans are incapable and unwilling to work the plunger, maybe one party should immigrate to Canada, ay?


14

Upright BiPed

09/18/2008

11:48 am

“Obviousness is orthogonal to truth”

If I drop a brick on my foot, I think it obvious that it will hurt.


15

KPX

09/18/2008

12:35 pm

I think that if Democrats/liberals at large truly realized that they’ve spent the past 35 years aborting themselves out of a constituency, they might rethink the whole right-to-choose issue.


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