# TED talk: Mathematics as the science of patterns

November 9, 2013 | Posted by News under Mathematics, News |

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Why does this presentation exhibit fractals while discussing Fibonacci numbers?

Nature by Numbers

http://vimeo.com/9953368

Nature: 3.8 Billion Years of R&D – October 2, 2012

Excerpt: Sunflowers as solar energy models: A clever short video on Live Science finds nature, once again, providing the optimum solution to a problem. The problem is arranging mirrors in a giant solar collection facility so as to minimize shadows. The solution: mimic the sunflower. The spiral arrangement of florets in the center of a sunflower, following the Fibonacci series, turns out to pack the most light collection in the smallest space while minimizing shadows on other mirrors. The video did not mention another property that solar farms would have difficulty imitating: sunflowers exist on stalks that can turn and follow the sun.

http://crev.info/2012/10/natur.....ars-of-rd/

Nature as a Guide for Efficient Design – Ann Gauger – May 10, 2012

Excerpt: Now researchers have found that one of the patterns derived from the Fibonacci series that is present in sunflowers provides the most efficient arrangement for mirrors in solar power generation.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....59501.html

What Phi (the golden ratio) sounds Like – music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Ob-X6DMI4

What pi sounds like – music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOQb_mtkEEE

What Tau (2?) Sounds Like – video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3174T-3-59Q

(Pi jam) Pi & e – put to music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OIfYOi19XY

This following website has the complete working out of the math of Pi, and e, in the Bible, in the Hebrew and Greek languages respectively, for Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1:

http://www.biblemaths.com/pag03_pie/

Mung @ 1

The talk was about math and how it could be fun. The fractal image seems to have acted as any splash page would. Fibonacci numbers were just the example discussed of how math could be fun or interesting.

F/N:

Pardon, but — while it may be good rhetoric to use the term “science” as a synonym for field of knowledge — it seems to me that Mathematics is not a science but instead

a logical study of sets, structures and patterns that are often quantitative. Where, typically, the logic is axiomatic and deductive — at least in mature fields.I think AmHD gets it right: “The

study ofthe measurement, properties, and relationships of quantities and sets, using numbers and symbols” whilst Collins blunders: “a group of relatedsciences, including algebra, geometry, and calculus, concerned with the study of number, quantity, shape, and space and their interrelationships by using a specialized notation.”Is this a case of scientism being so dominant that “science” is being used as a prestigious, honourific term?

Perhaps, we need to underscore that “science” is not “the only begetter of knowledge”?

KF

The OFloinn

F/N: Why didn’t he impose the spiral on the boxes? That is where a lot of interesting things lurk. KF

Galileo stated:

Wigner held the effectiveness of mathematics to be a ‘miracle’

Even Einstein termed the appropriateness of mathematics for describing reality a miracle:

Dr. Craig, in his usual no nonsense style, sums up the ‘mathematical argument’ for God this way:

It is interesting to note that one of the main differences between General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics is that the Mathematics of Quantum Mechanics predict what material particles will do,,,

Whereas the mathematics of General Relativity are dependent on what material particles have already done,,,

The dichotomy between Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity is perhaps best summed up here;

I like Scott Aaronson’s take on the implications of all this

‘quantum jazz’

An Interview with David Berlinski – Jonathan Witt

Berlinski: There is no argument against religion that is not also an argument against mathematics. Mathematicians are capable of grasping a world of objects that lies beyond space and time â€¦.

Interviewer:â€¦ Come again(?) â€¦

Berlinski: No need to come again: I got to where I was going the first time. The number four, after all, did not come into existence at a particular time, and it is not going to go out of existence at another time. It is neither here nor there. Nonetheless we are in some sense able to grasp the number by a faculty of our minds. Mathematical intuition is utterly mysterious. So for that matter is the fact that mathematical objects such as a Lie Group or a differentiable manifold have the power to interact with elementary particles or accelerating forces. But these are precisely the claims that theologians have always made as well â€“ that human beings are capable by an exercise of their devotional abilities to come to some understanding of the deity; and the deity, although beyond space and time, is capable of interacting with material objects.

http://tofspot.blogspot.com/20.....-here.html

math isn’t fun or relevant to most people.

Its just a language for nature. or rather the universe is bery organized by god and its a special case it adds up. what other options?

God made things to work based on ideas of self regulation. he is not driving it.

All is a system and math shows in in the barest way.

discovering math ideas was simply always discovering order by a creator.

math isn’t fun or relevant to most people.

Its just a language for nature. or rather the universe is bery organized by god and its a special case it adds up. what other options?

God made things to work based on ideas of self regulation. he is not driving it.

All is a system and math shows in in the barest way.

discovering math ideas was simply always discovering order by a creator.

math isn’t fun or relevant to most people.

Its just a language for nature. or rather the universe is bery organized by god and its a special case it adds up. what other options?

God made things to work based on ideas of self regulation. he is not driving it.

All is a system and math shows in in the barest way.

discovering math ideas was simply always discovering order by a creator.

God made things to work based on ideas of self regulation. he is not driving it.

All is a system and math shows in in the barest way.

discovering math ideas was simply always discovering order by a creator.

Sorry but something was wrong with my computer. don’t know how to get rid of the duplicates.