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Y chromosome arose independently twice at same time, 180 mya

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From ScienceDaily:

The study shows that the same sex-determining gene, named SRY, in placentals and marsupials had formed in the common ancestor of both lineages around 180 million years ago. Another gene, AMHY, is responsible for the emergence of Y chromosomes in monotremes and appeared some 175 million years ago. Both genes, which according to Henrik Kaessmann are “involved in testicular development ,” have thus emerged ” nearly at the same time but in a totally independent way .”

Just an accident.

The nature of the sex-determination system present in the common ancestor of all mammals remains unclear, given that mammalian Y chromosomes did not yet exist at that time — at least not those discovered in this study. So what triggered back then that an individual was born male or female? Was this determination linked to other sex chromosomes, or even environmental factors such as the temperature? The latter is not an unreasonable scenario, given that temperature determines sex in present-day crocodiles. As far as mammals are concerned, “the question remains open ,” concludes Diego Cortez.

Hmmm/ That question may well remain open fora long time. How, exactly, would we find out without recreating the habitat and its inhabitants?
See also: Junk DNA files: Genes on the Y chromosome a must for male survival (The Y chromosome had been reprieved earlier from its status as a vestige about to disappear, but this is newish)

See: Diego Cortez, Ray Marin, Deborah Toledo-Flores, Laure Froidevaux, Angélica Liechti, Paul D. Waters, Frank Grützner, Henrik Kaessmann. Origins and functional evolution of Y chromosomes across mammals. Nature, 2014; 508 (7497): 488 DOI: 10.1038/nature13151

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Yeah saying they are Y shaped is a bit of a stretch but I guess I can see it. And yes I'm pretty sure they were not named for there shape. DNA is only rarely in the "X-like shape" anyway. And I just figured your name was a play on words or something. That's just me being an ass as usual. Just try to be careful talking about science in the future. Especially if you don't know much about it.AVS
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I always thought that the Y chromosome got its name from it arcocentric shape. http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-51777744/male-sex-chromosomes-coloured-scanning-electron-micrograph?popup=1 However, Wikipedia tells me that is not true. Therefore my assumption that other Y chromosomes have a similar shape is unwarranted. Now, what do you mean by "Hey Jew?"Jehu
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Hey Jew, what do you mean by "Y-shaped"?AVS
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Both genes, which according to Henrik Kaessmann are “involved in testicular development ,” have thus emerged ” nearly at the same time but in a totally independent way
Fancy that, both control testicular development and both are Y shaped - yet they are not homologous. Biotic message anybody? Or did neutral drift just happen to randomly encode testie development on a Y shaped chromosome both times?Jehu
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I mean, can anyone make it more scientific than that?
That's right.WGalbraith
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Fortunately, many serious hardworking scientists out there don't have time to squander on silly OOL speculative talking, because they're too busy working on real research to find cures for many diseases that affect us in this world. They have to observe, study, analyze the actual biological processes they find at the cellular and molecular levels, so they can understand well how they work.Dionisio
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Hmmm/ That question may well remain open for a long time. How, exactly, would we find out without recreating the habitat and its inhabitants?
Easily. They'll create an in-silico modeling system to simulate those conditions as they wish, and voilà ! They'll write an impressive report using some computer-generated text, bingo! I mean, can anyone make it more scientific than that?Dionisio
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