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		<title>By: larrynormanfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>larrynormanfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, both his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.morris.umn.edu/academic/biology/faculty.html#myers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;department&lt;/a&gt; and his blog (Pharyngula) identify him as an Associate Professor.  &quot;Associate Professor&quot; virtually always means &quot;tenured.&quot; 

It&#039;s an easy mistake to make. I&#039;m curious about why you thought he wasn&#039;t tenured.  Did someone tell you his tenure review was &quot;upcoming&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, both his <a href="http://www.morris.umn.edu/academic/biology/faculty.html#myers" rel="nofollow">department</a> and his blog (Pharyngula) identify him as an Associate Professor.  &#8220;Associate Professor&#8221; virtually always means &#8220;tenured.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an easy mistake to make. I&#8217;m curious about why you thought he wasn&#8217;t tenured.  Did someone tell you his tenure review was &#8220;upcoming&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>larry and horace

Apparently I&#039;ve been misinformed about Myers tenure.  My mistake.  

But where are the facts &quot;readily available&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larry and horace</p>
<p>Apparently I&#8217;ve been misinformed about Myers tenure.  My mistake.  </p>
<p>But where are the facts &#8220;readily available&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Horace_Worblehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace_Worblehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myers had had tenure since 2003.  

Why speculate when the facts are readily available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myers had had tenure since 2003.  </p>
<p>Why speculate when the facts are readily available?</p>
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		<title>By: larrynormanfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>larrynormanfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t Myers already have tenure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t Myers already have tenure?</p>
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		<title>By: poachy</title>
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		<dc:creator>poachy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This doesn’t bode well for Myers’ upcoming tenure review. If enough of his peers start viewing him as a liability to science and the University of Minnesota then they’ll give him the bum’s rush just as quick as they did Guilliermo Gonzalez.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t get your hopes up.  Myers is a leader in the Darwinist movement to suppress any dissent in academia.  My guess is he will get tenure because he will unleash the hounds of war on anyone who stands in his way. He probably has the entire University of Minnesota power structure dancing to whatever tune he calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This doesn’t bode well for Myers’ upcoming tenure review. If enough of his peers start viewing him as a liability to science and the University of Minnesota then they’ll give him the bum’s rush just as quick as they did Guilliermo Gonzalez.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t get your hopes up.  Myers is a leader in the Darwinist movement to suppress any dissent in academia.  My guess is he will get tenure because he will unleash the hounds of war on anyone who stands in his way. He probably has the entire University of Minnesota power structure dancing to whatever tune he calls.</p>
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		<title>By: PannenbergOmega</title>
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		<dc:creator>PannenbergOmega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At # 3.. 

JP you just made my day. Ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At # 3.. </p>
<p>JP you just made my day. Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: PannenbergOmega</title>
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		<dc:creator>PannenbergOmega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was telling my parents about this yesterday, when we went out to eat for Easter Sunday. 

They were both shocked, particularly my mother who is involved in biological research. 

Obviously, the Darwinists must know that there theory is pure fluff, otherwise why won&#039;t they allow a free and vigorous debate on the subject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was telling my parents about this yesterday, when we went out to eat for Easter Sunday. </p>
<p>They were both shocked, particularly my mother who is involved in biological research. </p>
<p>Obviously, the Darwinists must know that there theory is pure fluff, otherwise why won&#8217;t they allow a free and vigorous debate on the subject?</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyb</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveScot -

You mean the DI isn&#039;t already paying Myers a hefty salary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveScot -</p>
<p>You mean the DI isn&#8217;t already paying Myers a hefty salary?</p>
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		<title>By: idnet.com.au</title>
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		<dc:creator>idnet.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dnmlthr

Anger is usually preceded by fear. Most of us hide our fear behind our anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dnmlthr</p>
<p>Anger is usually preceded by fear. Most of us hide our fear behind our anger.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t bode well for Myers&#039; upcoming tenure review.  If enough of his peers start viewing him as a liability to science and the University of Minnesota then they&#039;ll give him the bum&#039;s rush just as quick as they did Guilliermo Gonzalez.  And PZ Myers&#039;, unlike Guilliermo Gonzalez, has no impeccable publication record to fall back on in protest so it won&#039;t be difficult or unseeming for the tenure committee to give him a thumbs down.

This is very, very bad for us.  If PZ Myers didn&#039;t exist we&#039;d have to invent him.  Myers does more to give Darwinists a bad name than any man alive.  If he&#039;s denied tenure we might be forced to put together a &quot;Save the Myers&quot; foundation to solicit donations to keep his blog alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t bode well for Myers&#8217; upcoming tenure review.  If enough of his peers start viewing him as a liability to science and the University of Minnesota then they&#8217;ll give him the bum&#8217;s rush just as quick as they did Guilliermo Gonzalez.  And PZ Myers&#8217;, unlike Guilliermo Gonzalez, has no impeccable publication record to fall back on in protest so it won&#8217;t be difficult or unseeming for the tenure committee to give him a thumbs down.</p>
<p>This is very, very bad for us.  If PZ Myers didn&#8217;t exist we&#8217;d have to invent him.  Myers does more to give Darwinists a bad name than any man alive.  If he&#8217;s denied tenure we might be forced to put together a &#8220;Save the Myers&#8221; foundation to solicit donations to keep his blog alive.</p>
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