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Last Friday RealClearReligion.org, featured an article titled, The Pope Believes in Evolution (Aleteia, 13 June 2014) by M. Anthony Mills, a Ph.D. candidate in the history and philosophy of science at Notre Dame University. Mills’ article was written in response to an earlier article by George Dvorsky (io9.com, March 16, 2013), titled, Does the new Pope believe in evolution? In his article, Dvorsky argued that Catholicism and Darwinism don’t mix: you cannot accept both. Darwinian evolution, according to Dvorsky, is “a God killer,” “a stand alone system,” a “fully autonomous process that does not require any guiding ‘rationality’ ([Pope] Benedict’s term) to function.”

In his reply to Dvorsky, Anthony Mills makes several concessions that are quite remarkable, for a Catholic philosopher. First, Mills endorses the scientific rejection of teleology lock, stock and barrel: he tells his readers that final causes have now been banished completely from science (including biology). Mills appears to be unfamiliar with the work of Professor Karen Neander, a philosopher of science who contends that the teleological notion of a function is absolutely indispensable to biology. One example she cites is the statement that the function of the heart is to pump blood. There is simply no way to rephrase this statement in non-teleological language without robbing it of its meaning.

Mills’ second naive concession is his assertion that “Darwin proved” that “the complexity that appears to be the mark of a creator is in fact the end-result of random variations over a long period of time.” That would be news to geneticists like James Shapiro, whose recent best-seller, Evolution: A View from the 21st century trenchantly criticizes Darwinism for its inability to satisfactorily account for biological complexity. Shapiro proposes as an alternative his own theory of “natural genetic engineering,” but he openly acknowledges that much work needs to be done in testing his proposal.

Third, Mills blithely declares that “random genetic variations over time” are quite sufficient to answer the scientific question, “How and when did humans come onto the scene?” God, maintains Mills, was perfectly free to make us through a random process if He so wished; He creates things simply by keeping them in existence: “God gives rise to and sustains existence, suffusing it with meaning — whether or not man came from fish, ape, or stardust and whether or not the laws governing that evolution are probabilistic.” Hence, according to Mills, “Evolution doesn’t refute God any more than electromagnetism refutes moral conscience.” However, Mills’ analogy is a flawed one, for if the theory of electromagnetism could explain the workings of the neurons in the human brain in an entirely deterministic fashion, it would indeed render moral conscience redundant as an explanation of human actions. Likewise, the notion of God making us through a random process is an oxymoron: if the process in question is genuinely random, then whatever it generates cannot be the result of design. Of course, God might make us through a process that appears to be random, but that is entirely another matter.

Catholicism and Darwinism: What Dvorsky got right and what he didn’t

Before I explain why I, as a Catholic, reject Mills’ faulty reasoning regarding the role of God as Creator, I’d like to go back to the article by George Dvorsky, which Mills critiqued.

Dvorsky’s article correctly noted that “Catholics don’t believe in polygenism, the idea that humans are descended from a group of early humans” (for a discussion of the binding nature of this teaching, see here). That belief immediately puts them at odds with evolutionary biologists, who assert that the human population has never numbered less than 1,000 individuals (see also here). The recent attempt by the Catholic philosopher Kenneth Kemp to reconcile this scientific claim with Catholic teaching fails spectacularly: he supposes that Adam and Eve may have inter-bred with identical-looking hominids who had human bodies but lacked human souls. However, Professor Kemp’s proposal is at odds with the dogma proclaimed by the ecumenical council of Vienne in 1311, that the rational soul is essentially the form of the human body – making the notion of a being having a human body but lacking a human soul an oxymoron. Thus there is a real tension between Catholic teaching about human origins and the findings of science. Whereas scientific models of human populations in the past are naturalistic, in that they assume that the genes in the human population have never been manipulated by an Intelligent Agent, and that the size of the human population has never been influenced by any such agent, Catholicism is quite open to both forms of Divine intervention. Consequently Catholics are bound to reject conclusions regarding the size of the original human population which based entirely on population genetics.

Dvorsky was also correct when he pointed out that according to Catholic teaching, the human soul is “a creation of God and not the product of material forces. On this point, the Church will never waver.” Here, again, the tension between Catholic teaching and scientific findings is very real. Many psychologists have argued that recent experiments rule out the existence of free will, leaving no place for the human soul to influence our actions. (I should point out, however, that Benjamin Libet, who pioneered these experiments, took a different view, and that some neuroscientists continue to champion belief in free will.)

However, Dvorsky’s article also got a lot wrong – it claims, for instance, that the Catholic Church “openly rejects Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism saying that it ‘pretends to be science‘”, but the source it cited in support of this astonishing claim was not a Pope or bishop but a Jesuit priest, Fr. George Coyne, a former director of the Vatican Observatory who was, according to the Italian news agency ANSA, speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he made his off-the-cuff remark that intelligent design “isn’t science, even though it pretends to be.” I should note in passing that Fr. Coyne made the following assertion on the PBS “Faith and Reason” series in 2006: “The knowledge of God, the belief in God, is what I call an a-rational process. It’s not rational – it doesn’t proceed by scientific investigation – but it’s not irrational because it doesn’t contradict my reasoning process. It goes beyond it.” Fr. Coyne appears not to understand the teaching of his own Church, which has dogmatically declared that “God, the source and end of all things, can be known with certainty from the consideration of created things, by the natural power of human reason.” Although it does not describe this knowledge of God as scientific knowledge, the Church declares that “ever since the creation of the world, his invisible nature has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made.” In short: Fr. Coyne is hardly a credible source regarding the Catholic Church’s teaching on evolution.

Pope Benedict XVI wearing Cappello Romano during an open-air Mass in 2007. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

In his article, Dvorsky also cited the following statement by Pope Benedict XVI said about evolution at a meeting with the clergy of the dioceses of Belluno-Feltre and Treviso, at the Church of St Justin Martyr, Auronzo di Cadore, on Tuesday, 24 July 2007:

Currently, I see in Germany, but also in the United States, a somewhat fierce debate raging between so-called “creationism” and evolutionism, presented as though they were mutually exclusive alternatives: those who believe in the Creator would not be able to conceive of evolution, and those who instead support evolution would have to exclude God. This antithesis is absurd because, on the one hand, there are so many scientific proofs in favour of evolution which appears to be a reality we can see and which enriches our knowledge of life and being as such. But on the other, the doctrine of evolution does not answer every query, especially the great philosophical question: where does everything come from? And how did everything start which ultimately led to man? I believe this is of the utmost importance. This is what I wanted to say in my lecture at Regensburg: that reason should be more open, that it should indeed perceive these facts but also realize that they are not enough to explain all of reality. They are insufficient. Our reason is broader and can also see that our reason is not basically something irrational, a product of irrationality, but that reason, creative reason, precedes everything and we are truly the reflection of creative reason. We were thought of and desired; thus, there is an idea that preceded me, a feeling that preceded me, that I must discover, that I must follow, because it will at last give meaning to my life. This seems to me to be the first point: to discover that my being is truly reasonable, it was thought of, it has meaning.

This is hardly a ringing endorsement of Darwinian evolution. Pope Benedict expressly declared that evolution could not explain the human capacity to reason: on this point, he is clearly siding with Alfred Russel Wallace, who famously invoked a higher power to explain the origin of human intelligence, and against Charles Darwin, who considered his theory of evolution to be an all-encompassing account of living things, including ourselves.

Human beings, according to Pope Benedict, were planned by God from the beginning – in his own words, “We were thought of and desired.” In a homily given in St. Peter’s square on 24 April 2005, the Pope went even further:

We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved, each of us is necessary.

On this point, Pope Benedict’s are completely at odds with the views articulated in the Nobel Laureates Initiative, a joint declaration of 38 Nobel Laureates (most of them scientists) in a petition sent to the Kansas Board of Education on September 9, 2005, and organized by the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity. The petition contained the following statement:

Logically derived from confirmable evidence, evolution is understood to be the result of an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection.

Evolutionary biologist Jerry Coyne agrees, although he qualifies his remarks by adding that the evolutionary process lacks any purpose, as far as we can tell. In an article titles, What’s the problem with unguided evolution?, he writes (italics Coyne’s):

[E]volution is, as far as we can tell, purposeless and unguided. There seems to be no direction, mutations are random, and we haven’t detected a teleological force or agent that pushes it in one direction. And it’s important to realize this: the great importance of Darwin’s theory of natural selection is that an unguided, purposeless process can nevertheless produce animals and plants that are exquisitely adapted to their environment. That’s why it’s called natural selection, not supernatural selection or simply selection.

Theistic evolution, then, is supernaturalism, and admitting its possibility denies everything we know about how evolution works. It waters down science with superstition. It should be no crime — in fact, it should be required — for teachers to tell student that natural selection is apparently a purposeless and unguided process (I use the word “apparently” because we’re not 100% sure, but really, do we need to tell physics students that the decay of an atom is “apparently” purposeless?).

Anthony Mills is unfazed by this reasoning: he contends that God can make use of “random genetic variations over time” as a secondary cause by which to accomplish His purposes. On this model, God is rather like the designer of a poker machine, who makes the wheels spin randomly, knowing that eventually, the winning combination will come up. Unlike the poker machine designer, however, God actively maintains the cosmos in being, although He does not guide it towards this or that result. On Mills’ model, one might say that God envisaged our eventual emergence as a species via the evolutionary process, although even this is questionable: did God intend, for instance, that Homo sapiens, rather than the New Caledonian crow or the bottlenose dolphin, would become the first intelligent species in the history of life on Earth?

The evolution envisaged by former Pope Benedict, on the other hand, was very much a God-guided evolution. And on this point, Pope Francis (who is a very good friend of former Pope Benedict’s) would undoubtedly agree.

I’d now like to turn to Anthony Mills’ outlandish claim that the Catholic Church’s greatest theologians, St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, would have been quite comfortable with Darwin’s theory of evolution.

What did St. Augustine really think about evolution?

Saint Augustine in His Study by Sandro Botticelli, 1480, Chiesa di Ognissanti, Florence, Italy. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

In his article, Anthony Mills writes that “the Church acknowledges the existence of an evolutionary process — in fact Saint Augustine suggested as much in the 5th century A.D.” Scholarly attempts to cite Saint Augustine as a proponent of evolutionary theory date back to 1871, when St. George Mivart published his work, The Genesis of the Species. Critics responded immediately; but in 1926, a Catholic priest, Fr. Michael J. McKeough, wrote a volume entitled The Meaning of Rationes Seminales in Saint Augustine, in which he argued that although Augustine did not hold that one species of living thing could develop into another, Augustine’s notion of “the gradual appearance of living things upon the earth through the operation of natural laws and secondary causes constitutes a satisfactory philosophical basis for evolution, and merits for him the title of Father of Evolution” (pp. 109-110).

Was St. Augustine a proto-evolutionist?

In his work, De Genesi Ad Litteram, St. Augustine theorized that at the beginning of time, God created all living things in the form of germinal seeds, or rationes seminales (also known as “seminal reasons”). To modern ears, this may sound like a proto-evolutionary theory. Was it? Since St. Augustine’s theory of rationes seminales sounds rather bizarre from a modern perspective, I shall cite an explanation from an unimpeachable source – namely, that given by Fr. Frederick Copleston S.J. in his monumental work, A History of Philosophy. Volume 2: Augustine to Scotus (Burns and Oates, Tunbridge Wells, 1950; paperback edition 1999, p. 77):

The rationes seminales are germs of things or invisible powers or potentialities, created by God in the beginning in the humid element and developing into the objects of various species by their temporal unfolding… Each species then, with all its future developments and particular members, was created at the beginning in the appropriate seminal reason.

Since St. Augustine believed that each species of plant and animal was created separately by God with its own ratio seminalis, it should be quite clear that his theory was not an evolutionary one. The only “development” Augustine envisaged was that of individuals from invisible germ seeds. The idea that species may have arisen in this fashion was utterly contrary to what he wrote on the subject of origins.

In his City of God (Book V, chapter 11), St. Augustine also taught that God personally planned the design of each and every living creature, and that His providence had not left “even the entrails of the smallest and most contemptible animal, or the feather of a bird, or the little flower of a plant, or the leaf of a tree, without an harmony, and, as it were, a mutual peace among all its parts.” It would be difficult to find a more anti-Darwinian view of Nature than the one articulated here by St. Augustine. For the theological motivation underlying Darwin’s Origin of Species was to show that no such Providence existed: God, if He exists, planned only the general laws of Nature, and not the details of creation, which are largely due to accident rather than design.

St. Augustine’s Biblical literalism

St. Augustine also maintained that the world was 6,000 years old (City of God, Book XII, chapter 12); that creatures of all kinds were created instantly at the beginning of time; he expressly taught that living creatures were created separately according to their kinds (De Genesi ad Litteram 3.12.18-20, 5.4.11, 5.6.19, 5.23.46); that Adam and Eve were historical persons; that Paradise was a literal place (City of God, Book XIII, chapter 21); that the patriarch Methusaleh actually lived to the age of 969 (City of God, Book XV, chapter 11); that there was a literal ark, which accommodated male and female land animals of every kind (City of God, Book XV, chapter 27); and that the Flood covered the whole earth (City of God, Book XV, chapter 27).

What’s more, St. Augustine vigorously defended these doctrines against philosophical opponents, who maintained that the human race was very old; that Paradise was a purely spiritual state and not a place; that none of the Biblical patriarchs lived past the age of 100; that the Ark wouldn’t have been big enough to accommodate all of the animals; and that no flood could ever have covered the whole earth. These intellectual adversaries of Augustine’s included pagans who were skeptical of the Genesis account as well as unnamed Christians who sought to downplay the literal meaning of Genesis in favor of a purely allegorical interpretation. Although St. Augustine had a great fondness for allegorical interpretations of Scripture, he also felt that he was bound to remain faithful to the literal sense of Scripture.

In his De Genesi ad Litteram, St. Augustine scoffed at unnamed Christians who were willing to accept the doctrine of the virginal conception of Jesus Christ, but who balked at the Genesis account of the creation of Eve from Adam, preferring to adopt an allegorical interpretation:

But for all that, we have not the slightest doubt that the only creator both of human beings and of trees is God, and we faithfully believe that the woman was made from the man independently of any sexual intercourse, even if the man’s rib may have been served up from the creator’s work by angels: in the same way we faithfully believe that a man was made from a woman independently of any sexual intercourse, when the seed of Abraham was disposed by angels in the hand of the mediator (Gal. 3:19). Both things are incredible to unbelievers; but why should believers find what happened in the case of Christ quite credible when taken in the literal, historical sense, and what is written about Eve only acceptable in its figurative signification?

(On Genesis: The Works of Saint Augustine (#13). Edited by John E. Rotelle. Translated by Edmund Hill. New City Press, New York. 2003. Book IX, 16.30, pp. 393-394.)

Would St. Augustine have been an evolutionist if he were alive today?

It may be objected that St. Augustine would have embraced Darwin’s theory of evolution, were he alive today, since he also taught that when there is a conflict between a proven truth about Nature and a particular reading of Scripture, an alternative reading of Scripture must be sought. The problem with this objection is that it overlooks the more fundamental question: what would St. Augustine have regarded as a “proven truth”? Professor Ernan McMullin addresses this issue in his essay, “Galileo on Science and Scripture,” in The Cambridge Companion to Galileo, ed. Peter Machamer (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1998, pp. 271-347). He writes:

Augustine’s emphasis is on the certainty that is needed for the claim to natural knowledge to count as a challenge to a Scripture reading. He uses phrases in this context like “the facts of experience,” “knowledge acquired by unassailable arguments or proved by the evidence of experience,” and “proofs that cannot be denied” (above). (1998, p. 294.)

The problem with this view for evolutionists is that the case for the neo-Darwinian theory of evolution is not demonstrative in the sense intended by St. Augustine. It does not rest on “proofs that cannot be denied,” “unassailable arguments” or “the facts of experience.” Experience tells us only that some species can evolve (e.g. sticklebacks and cichlid fish). However, there is no direct evidence from scientific observations that microbe-to-man evolution is possible, as a result of purely natural processes.

In his essay, Ernan McMullin ascribes an exegetical principle to St. Augustine that makes him sound strikingly modern: the Principle of Limitation:

Since the primary concern of Scripture is with human salvation, texts of Scripture should not be taken to have a bearing on technical issues of natural science.

However, it is highly doubtful that St. Augustine himself ever advocated this principle, as Dr. Gregory Dawes has pointed out in an article titled, Could there be another Galileo case? Galileo, Augustine and Vatican II. In his De Genesi ad litteram 2.16.33-34, St. Augustine cited Scripture (“Star differs from star in brightness” – 1 Corinthians 15:41) on the technical scientific question of whether the sun and the stars are actually of equal intrinsic brightness (as some of his Christian contemporaries were suggesting). On Dr. Dawes’ view, what St. Augustine really maintained was that biblical texts can have a bearing on technical issues of natural science, even if they were not written for that purpose. Although the Scriptures were meant to teach us how to get to Heaven, what they say must be taken with the utmost seriousness, on those rare occasions when the Scriptures make direct reference to events in the physical world.

What about St. Thomas Aquinas?

St. Thomas Aquinas. Painting from an altarpiece in Ascoli Piceno, Italy, by Carlo Crivelli (15th century). Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

In his article, Anthony Mills also adduces the theological authority of St. Thomas Aquinas in support of his view that God may have fashioned us using a random process:

As Saint Thomas Aquinas emphasized long before the Scientific Revolution, natural science and theology are not competing bodies of knowledge; rather they are distinct and complementary forms of inquiry…

Darwin only showed that biology — as opposed, say, to metaphysics, theology, or ethics — should dispense with “final causes,” as physics did in Newton’s day…

The problem is not Darwin, but the modern notion that theology can only discuss what science fails to explain. Because at one time science failed to explain biological order, people began believing that biological order was safe from scientific advance. But if you profess your religion from within the gaps of scientific knowledge, you will inevitably get crushed as those gaps close.

Better to follow Aquinas, who made a distinction of kind between theological and natural-scientific questions.

It takes breath-taking chutzpah to write an article denying the need for final causes in science, and to then cite St. Thomas Aquinas (who stoutly affirmed their scientific reality, in his commentaries on Aristotle’s Physics) in support of one’s view!

St. Thomas Aquinas: miracles are the best possible evidence for the existence of God

There’s more. In his Summa Contra Gentiles Book III chapter 99 (paragraph 9) (That God Can Work Apart From The Order Implanted In Things, By Producing Effects Without Proximate Causes), Aquinas wrote:

…[D]ivine power can sometimes produce an effect, without prejudice to its providence, apart from the order implanted in natural things by God. In fact, He does this at times to manifest His power. For it can be manifested in no better way, that the whole of nature is subject to the divine will, than by the fact that sometimes He does something outside the order of nature. Indeed, this makes it evident that the order of things has proceeded from Him, not by natural necessity, but by free will.

For St. Thomas Aquinas, then, the production of an effect outside the order of Nature is the best possible proof of the existence of God. The question is: did Aquinas view the origin of new kinds of living things as an event that must have occurred outside the order of Nature?

Like his medieval contemporaries, St. Thomas believed in the popular theory of spontaneous generation, which stated that living things can sometimes arise from dead or decaying matter. However, St. Thomas was quite emphatic that spontaneous generation was impossible for the higher creatures, whom he referred to as perfect animals, on account of their complexity.

Aquinas’ Intelligent Design argument: the first complex animals could only have been created by God

For Aristotle, and for Aquinas, “perfect animals,” in the strict sense of that term, were distinguished by the following criteria:

(i) they require a male’s “seed” in order to reproduce. This means that they can only reproduce sexually, and that they always breed true to type – unlike the lower animals, which were then commonly believed to be generated spontaneously from dead matter, and which were incapable of breeding true to type, when reproducing sexually;

(ii) they give birth to live young, instead of laying eggs – in other words, they are viviparous;

(iii) they possess several different senses (unlike the lower animals, which possess only touch);

(iv) they have a greater range of mental capacities, including not only imagination, desire, pleasure and pain (which are found even in the lower animals), but also memory and a variety of passions with a strong cognitive component, including anger;

(v) they are capable of locomotion;

(vi) generally speaking, they live on the land;

(vii) they often hunt lower animals, which are less perfect than themselves; and

(viii) they have complex body parts, owing to their possession of multiple senses and their more active lifestyle (“perfect animals have the greatest diversity of organs” and “they have more distinct limbs”).

Aquinas mentions each of the eight conditions listed above at various places in his writings, notably in his Summa Contra Gentiles Book II chapter 72, paragraph 5, Summa Theologica I, q. 71 art. 1, and Summa Theologica I, q. 72 art. 1, Reply to Objection 1 (The Work of the Sixth Day).

It may come as a surprise to many readers (and to Mr. Mills) to learn that St. Thomas Aquinas actually put forward an Intelligent Design-style argument in his theological writings, based on the complexity of perfect animals. Because their bodies are more perfect, more conditions are required to produce them. According to Aquinas, the heavenly bodies (which were then believed to initiate all changes taking place on Earth) were capable of generating simple animals from properly disposed matter, but they were incapable of producing perfect animals, because too many conditions would need to be specified to produce such creatures by natural means. As Aquinas writes in his Summa Theologica I, q. 91 art. 2, Reply to Objection 2 (Whether The Human Body Was Immediately Produced By God?):

Reply to Objection 2. Perfect animals, produced from seed, cannot be made by the sole power of a heavenly body, as Avicenna imagined; although the power of a heavenly body may assist by co-operation in the work of natural generation, as the Philosopher says (Phys. ii, 26), “man and the sun beget man from matter.” For this reason, a place of moderate temperature is required for the production of man and other animals. But the power of heavenly bodies suffices for the production of some imperfect animals from properly disposed matter: for it is clear that more conditions are required to produce a perfect than an imperfect thing.

Why are more conditions required to produce perfect animals? As we have seen, Aquinas held that these animals have more complex body parts, partly due to their possession of several senses, but also because of the demands of their active lifestyle (they live on the land and often hunt other creatures). In other words, what Aquinas is doing here is sketching an Intelligent Design argument: the complexity of perfect animals’ body parts and the high degree of specificity required to produce them preclude them from having a non-biological origin. According to Aquinas, the only way they can be naturally generated is from “seed.” From this it follows that the first perfect animals must have been produced by God alone.

A Darwinist might object that the mere fact that an animal is generated only from “seed” does not mean that it couldn’t have evolved from some other kind of animal. What this objection overlooks is that according to Aquinas, the seed had to be seed of the right kind – i.e. from a parent of the same kind.

Aquinas explained the need for the right kind of “seed” when generating perfect animals, in his Summa Contra Gentiles Book III, chapter 102, paragraph 5 (That God Alone Can Work Miracles):

… [P]erfect animals are not generated by celestial power alone, but require a definite kind of semen; however, for the generation of certain imperfect animals, celestial power by itself is enough, without semen.

Additionally, in his Summa Theologica I, q. 72 a. 1, reply to obj. 3, Aquinas explicitly asserted that perfect animals were generated by a parent of the same kind:

Reply to Objection 3. In other animals, and in plants, mention is made of genus and species, to denote the generation of like from like.

Thus given St. Thomas Aquinas’ understanding of biology in his day, if it could be shown that “perfect animals” had not always existed on Earth, it would follow that only God could have generated these animals. They could not, in St. Thomas’ view, have arisen from other animals.

Aquinas clearly articulates this conclusion in his Summa Contra Gentiles Book II chapter 43, paragraph 6 (That The Distinction of Things Is Not Caused By Some Secondary Agent Introducing Diverse Forms Into Matter), where he argues that the action of the heavenly bodies – which were believed to cause changes occurring on Earth – would not have been sufficient to produce the forms of the first animals that are naturally “generated only from seed” (emphasis mine):

[6] … There are, however, many sensible forms which cannot be produced by the motion of the heaven except through the intermediate agency of certain determinate principles pre-supposed to their production; certain animals, for example, are generated only from seed. Therefore, the primary establishment of these forms, for producing which the motion of the heaven does not suffice without their pre-existence in the species, must of necessity proceed from the Creator alone.

Why, the reader might be wondering, did Aquinas not include this argument in his celebrated five proofs for the existence of God? The reason is that in his day, there was no scientific evidence that the universe, or even the Earth, had a beginning. Aristotle, for instance, maintained that man and the other animals had always existed. If that were the case, then there would have been no need for God to create the first “perfect animals.”

What would Aquinas make of the evidence for Intelligent Design today?

Today, the situation is completely different. Scientists now know that the Earth came into existence about 4.54 billion years ago, and that the universe itself has a finite age: 13.798 billion years. And despite strong circumstantial evidence for the common descent of living things, Professor James M. Tour, who is one of the ten most cited chemists in the world, has candidly declared that there’s no scientist alive today who understands macroevolution. Nobody has explained in detail how life, in all its complexity and diversity, could have arisen as a result of an unguided process.

Today, we know that the age of the universe is finite, and who also know that the chances of a living thing – let alone a “perfect animal” – arising spontaneously on the primordial Earth are so low that the evolutionary biologist Dr. Eugene Koonin has calculated that we would need to postulate a vast number of universes – a staggering 101,018 – in which all possible scenarios are played out, in order to make life’s emergence in our universe reasonably likely. By the way, the calculation can be found in a peer-reviewed article, “The Cosmological Model of Eternal Inflation and the Transition from Chance to Biological Evolution in the History of Life” (Biology Direct 2 (2007): 15, doi:10.1186/1745-6150-2-15). Dr. Koonin takes refuge in the multiverse, but as Dr. Robin Collins has argued in an influential essay titled, The Teleological Argument: An Exploration of the Fine-Tuning of the Universe (in The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology, edited by William Lane Craig and J. P. Moreland, 2009, Blackwell Publishing Ltd.), even a multiverse would still need to be exquisitely fine-tuned, in order to be able to churn out even one universe like ours. Thus invoking the multiverse merely shifts the fine-tuning problem up one level.

What do you think St. Thomas Aquinas would have to say to Christians who knew all these facts, but still tried to accommodate their faith to Darwinism? My guess is that he would be asking these Christians: “Why are you hiding your light under a bushel? Why aren’t you shouting this wonderful news from the house-tops? Have I not told you that miracles beyond the power of Nature to produce are the best possible proof of the existence of God?”

Aquinas: there are no bad designs in Nature

There is a final reason why Anthony Mills’ attempt to recruit Aquinas in support of Darwinism is doomed to failure. According to Aquinas, every kind of living thing God that produced in the natural world is perfectly designed for the biological ends that God intends it to realize.

“All of God’s works are perfect,” where the word “perfect” is defined in relation to each creature’s proper ends. “Perfect” does not mean “optimal,” but it does mean “free from flaws in its design.” For instance, the vertebrate eye, whose proper end is seeing, is perfect for that job, because God made it with unsurpassable wisdom and goodness. Hence according to Aquinas, there are no bad designs in nature.

In his Summa Theologica I, q. 91, a. 1, Aquinas addresses the question: Whether the Body of the First Man Was Made of the Slime of the Earth? His response begins as follows:

I answer that, As God is perfect in His works, He bestowed perfection on all of them according to their capacity: “God’s works are perfect” (Deut. 32:4).

In his Summa Theologica I, q. 91, art. 3, St. Thomas asks whether the body of (the first) man was given an apt disposition. After listing three objections to the design of the human body (which he would later refute), Aquinas responds as follows:

On the contrary, It is written (Ecclesiastes 7:30): “God made man right.”

I answer that, All natural things were produced by the Divine art, and so may be called God’s works of art. Now every artist intends to give to his work the best disposition; not absolutely the best, but the best as regards the proposed end; and even if this entails some defect, the artist cares not: thus, for instance, when man makes himself a saw for the purpose of cutting, he makes it of iron, which is suitable for the object in view; and he does not prefer to make it of glass, though this be a more beautiful material, because this very beauty would be an obstacle to the end he has in view. Therefore God gave to each natural being the best disposition; not absolutely so, but in the view of its proper end.

Aquinas cites the Biblical verse, “God’s works are perfect” (Deuteronomy 32:4) fifteen times in his Summa Theologica, and the Biblical verse, “God made man right” (Ecclesiastes 7:30) no less than four times.

The inadequacies of Mr. Mills’ grounds for theism

Anthony Mills writes that “if you profess your religion from within the gaps of scientific knowledge, you will inevitably get crushed as those gaps close.” But as we have just seen, the gaps are not shrinking, but growing: the impossibility of life’s spontaneous generation from inanimate matter would have been a complete surprise to Aquinas and Aristotle, as would the scientific evidence for the universe’s having had a beginning.

Mr. Mills is alarmed at the notion – which he mistakenly ascribes to Protestant fundamentalism – that the evidence for design in Nature could be falsified by science, and he rejects as utterly wrong-headed the view that scientific arguments for design can only succeed to the extent that scientific explanations fail. However, Intelligent Design theory does not claim that the high degree of specified complexity we find in living things constitutes the only evidence for design in Nature. Nor does Intelligent Design claim that an act of Divine intervention was required to produce the various life-forms we see on Earth today; indeed, there are ID proponents who propose that the initial conditions of the universe were fine-tuned by the Creator in order to generate life in all its diversity, without the need for any miracles – a view known as “front-loading.” In any case, it is surely true that scientific discoveries can strengthen the evidence for design in Nature. For instance, the evidence for cosmic fine-tuning was unknown 50 years ago. It would be difficult to deny that this discovery has boosted the argument that the cosmos was designed by an Intelligent Creator.

Mr. Mills prefers a different approach to theology, in which God sits outside the created order, and maintains it in being (emphasis mine):

Darwin only showed that biology — as opposed, say, to metaphysics, theology, or ethics — should dispense with “final causes,” as physics did in Newton’s day. This just frees biologists from the need to answer such purpose-questions, leaving the rest of us (non-scientists) free to wrestle with them, if we choose.

God gives rise to and sustains existence, suffusing it with meaning — whether or not man came from fish, ape, or stardust and whether or not the laws governing that evolution are probabilistic.

Now, I may be reading Mills uncharitably here, but he appears to be saying that whether or not we believe in God, in the end, comes down to how we choose to view the world – which is quite different from the traditional Catholic view that “God, the source and end of all things, can be known with certainty from the consideration of created things, by the natural power of human reason.” On Mills’ account, we can choose to view the world as “charged with the grandeur of God,” in the words of Gerard Manley Hopkins, or we may see it as nothing more than “Nature red in tooth and claw,” in the memorable phrase of the poet Alfred Lord Tennyson, a believer who continually wrestled with his own theological doubts.

If I am reading Mills aright, what he is saying is that in the end, the decision to see meaning in the world is an act of choice. We can see the world as suffused with meaning if we choose to. However, most contemporary scientists will proudly declare, with Laplace, “Sire, I have no need of that hypothesis.”

It is precisely in order to shake these scientists out of their complacency that the Intelligent Design movement exists. While it takes no official stand on the nature and identity of the Creator, the Intelligent Design movement will continue to fearlessly highlight the evidence for design in Nature, at both the cosmological and biological levels.

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Jerry, Good discussion. It appears that we don't really have any serious disagreements. I am not sure if the events that contribute to the normal water flow are truly random, but that is not nearly as important as our agreement that the flood control process is designed and is not random. Good. Your analysis of the cell-duplication process seems reasonable to me. Agreed, there is no place in empirical science for any assumption about how God should have created or designed anything. Agreed, the theodicy issue does, in large measure, inform and shape the TE's irrational world view. My take on it, though, is a little be different. I think the TEs' loss of faith in Biblical truths contributes to their theodicy objection. If they accepted the clear Biblical teaching about original sin and the fall of man, they would attribute the cause of suffering to man and not to God. In many respects, their loss of faith fuels the theodicy objection and the theodicy objection fuels their loss of faith. They claim to believe that "there is no conflict between their faith and their science," but their actions tell a different story. In fact, they really do believe that such a conflict exists, which is why they make so many faith compromises in order to smooth over the real disconnect between Darwinism (not science) and Christianity.StephenB
June 26, 2014
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StephenB, This essentially says what I say is a possibility. This could have been the way that God did it. Three things: First, There are lots of examples in this world where we design things to handle random events. For example, flood control. The result is water being carried away from normal run off often for uses by humans for drinking water, irrigation and power. I once used an example of a pin ball game here where much of the motion seems to be random but definitely controlled. I believe the cell duplication process is an example of a elegant design process controlling some very determined events which often have random components. Second, I don't think this is the way life and evolution was done. The evidence points somewhere else. Also, for us to tell God that he is doing it wrong and how He should do it is more than just hubris. But both sides are guilty of this. Third, I believe that many of the TE's don't accept this use of random events constrained by boundary conditions because of the theodicy issue. If the results are not totally random, they somehow think that this means God is responsible for natural evil. So to get God off the hook for natural evil, the totally random version becomes a preference. I tried several times including on this thread to inject this idea as the basis for their beliefs and there is lots of evidence that this is important to them. As you know, I believe the theodicy issue is bogus which sets me up against just about everyone else in the world.jerry
June 26, 2014
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Jerry, I believe that what you are describing is not truly a random process if it can be counted on to get the job done, that is, if it will infallibly and without error, produce homo-sapiens as intended. It is a random process only if it leaves the final outcome to chance--only if it allows for many possible outcomes--only if there is a possibility that the job will not get done. If the process aims toward a goal, it is, by definition, not random. If I understand you correctly, your process, however subtle its twists and turns may be, was designed to infallibly produce homo sapiens. By definition, a random process cannot be counted on to do that. That is the difference between a designed evolutionary process, which is consistent with ID, and a Darwinian process, which is not. Random: Synonyms unsystematic, unmethodical, arbitrary, unplanned, undirected, casual, indiscriminate, nonspecific, haphazard, stray, erratic; More chance, accidental antonyms: systematatic To "constrain" elements in the process is to make it not random. The question arises, why are you constraining? The answer: You are constraining those elements so that the result will not be left to chance. In that case, the point is to direct and guide the process toward maturity, toward its specified end. A random process, by definition, is not a maturation process because the end is indeterminate--in doubt-- unspecified--without a goal. That is how Darwinian evolution is understood and it is that same understanding that Christian Darwinists seek to integrate with Christianity.StephenB
June 26, 2014
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StephenB, We have had this discussion six years ago. Except I then described a valley that has only one exit (human evolution) and did not use the concept of water and erosion. I used the concept of a large number of paths in the valley but all paths are constrained and eventually lead to the one exit. My point then as it is now is to say that random events can be constrained to lead to a specific objective and humans do it all the time. It is great design. The TE might say that the initial and boundary conditions were put in place at the Big Bang and all the random events were then channeled to a specific exit of the valley. The Darwinist would say there are a zillion exits to the valley and no initial conditions were designed to lead to any particular exit and that random processes by chance found human intelligence. That is a big difference in position though on the surface they look identical. Of course the TE's have a lot of variations on this. I could accept this except the evidence doesn't support it. In one of my previous posts, I said the TE's avoid the discussion of gradualism like the plague (not exactly this expression but the same sentiment)and hence are intellectually bankrupt. They have no science to support their position. Though I ran across a series at BioLogos yesterday on the process of information generation. I haven't read it yet but will when I get time. My position is that we cannot fathom the Mind of God but must accept what He has provided us. We have a constantly interfering God in our lives and God designed the universe with that parameter. This is not the incredibly brilliant God who just sets the whole plan in motion. It is necessary for reasons we do not entirely know, for Him to intervene. To say otherwise is just human hubris saying this is the God I want. That is what the TE's do. I will accept the God that has revealed Himself to us in history as well as nature. My guess is He is actually smarter than the TE God and Leibniz was right, this is the best of all possible worlds. We just have no idea of what "best" actually is.jerry
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Jerry @122, Wow, the process that you have conceived is, indeed, subtle. Your powers of description are impressive. Obviously, you have given this matter a great deal of thought. Several causal factors seem to be in play with your model and there is an element of survival/non survival that shapes the output. I gather that the many different life forms and taxonomic levels that make up what we refer to as biodiversity are captured by the differing conditions of the valleys and that homo-sapiens is one of them. It also appears, by my reading least, that there are wide variety of boundary conditions, which are, in turn, shaped by the initial boundary conditions. For all that, I am not sure that your model would have to be random. I think all those twists and turns could be made to happen with mathematical precision in such a way that the tape of life would produce the same result every time, which would be the very opposite of randomness. In this and other contexts, we may be using words in a different way. When I speak of evolution's final outcome, I am referring only to man as the crown jewel of life forms and the final result of that one line of development. Perhaps his bodily existence is a product of the kinds of twists and turns you describe, I don't know. In any case, that outcome (homo-sapiens) either meets God's specifications perfectly, comes close, is quite different, or bears no resemblance at all. According to the Bible, man is made in the image of God, which would seem to mean that there is no room for error or deviation in the process that produced him. Since a truly random process would allow for many possible outcomes (again, I am referring to linear outcomes, not parallel outcomes), it could not guarantee a result that conforms perfectly to God's apriori intent. Obviously, none of this means that the universe is deterministic or materialistic or that man does not have free will. It simply means that any process of evolution that can produce exactly what God wants cannot be truly random. It must be purposefully and wonderfully designed in order to produce a fearfully and wonderfully made human.StephenB
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StephenB, I am speculating. There will be lots of outcomes, not one. But each outcome is limited/predetermined by the boundary conditions. Suppose there is a valley with several exits and only one input. Some of the exits are higher than others. These are physical boundary conditions. Then suppose water flows into the valley from the entrance and the amount is variable each year. The lowest exits get the most water and each exit leads to another valley, a series of valleys or a plain. The higher exits only get water occasionally. All exits lead to different valleys or maybe some lead to the same valley. The outcome is a finite number of valleys that get different amounts of water. Suppose, each valley has different rock and soil conditions which lead to different erosion patterns. So after a finite amount of time there will be a finite number of geological formations all determined by the boundary conditions. Not every possible formation is possible, only what the particular valleys allows. Over the ages, the erosion patterns, dependent on the water input and the geological makeup will lead to widely different formations in the valley and on the plains. But the possibilities are not endless and what can exist is sort of determined by a variety of initial and boundary conditions. Maybe such a cascade was how life evolved, limited by the boundary conditions that were determined by the initial conditions at the Big Bang. As I said speculation at best and based on what we know now, probably not possible. Why, because it would have left forensic trail which is not there and the physical laws that created everything would still be around and known to us. But it does say that naturalistic evolution does not have to be random and that random forces can be shaped in a certain direction. It can be random within each of the valleys but the valleys will limit what is possible and what can leave the valley.jerry
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rhampton 7
What I objected to was the suggestion that the Church teaches that free will or randomness (like quantum indeterminacy) is beyond God’s Providence and sovereignty.
Inasmuch as no one here has ever suggested that quantum indeterminancy or free will is beyond God's providence and sovereignty, I can't imagine what you are talking about. I remember specifically saying the very opposite and I also remember that you ignored the point.StephenB
June 25, 2014
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There is one important point on which rhampton 7, VJTorely, Timaeus, and ne will likely agree. The “unity of truth,” is a common teaching of Church and also a vital component of reason. On another thread, rhampton 7 approvingly and rightly quotes John Paul II:
This truth, which God reveals to us in Jesus Christ, is not opposed to the truths which philosophy perceives. On the contrary, the two modes of knowledge lead to truth in all its fullness. The unity of truth is a fundamental premise of human reasoning, as the principle of non-contradiction makes clear. Revelation renders this unity certain, showing that the God of creation is also the God of salvation history. It is the one and the same God who establishes and guarantees the intelligibility and reasonableness of the natural order of things upon which scientists confidently depend,(29) and who reveals himself as the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. This unity of truth, natural and revealed, is embodied in a living and personal way in Christ, as the Apostle reminds us: “Truth is in Jesus” (cf. Eph 4:21; Col 1:15-20). He is the eternal Word in whom all things were created, and he is the incarnate Word who in his entire person (30) reveals the Father (cf. Jn 1:14, 18). What human reason seeks “without knowing it” (cf. Acts 17:23) can be found only through Christ: what is revealed in him is “the full truth” (cf. Jn 1:14-16) of everything which was created in him and through him and which therefore in him finds its fulfilment (cf. Col 1:17).
I think that another way of expressing this point, perhaps in corollary form, is that God’s revelation in Scripture will never contradict God’s natural revelation. So, how does science play into this? Could science, in principle, contradict a teaching of the Church? Well, the answer to that question will, I think, depend on our premise and the context of the specific arguments that are being addressed. If we start our search from the ground up and consider the logical possibility that the Church could err on important matters of faith, such as ex nihilo Creation, then, yes, science could, as it were, “falsify” that teaching in a provisional way by providing evidence for an eternal universe. In this sense, science would be our empirical check and balance system against the errors of unrestrained rationalism or untested faith. This, I think, is VJ’s point. If, however, we accept, as an article of Catholic faith, the principle that truth is unified, then theology, philosophy, and science, properly understood, will each provide different elements of that same indivisible truth and cannot, for that reason, come into conflict. There are, after all, not many truths, but one truth with many aspects. If, therefore, the Catholic religion is true, if follows that the Catholic principle of unity is also true, meaning no one aspect of truth found in one discipline, properly understood and applied, will ever contradict another aspect of truth found in a different discipline, properly understood and applied. This, I think, is rhampton 7’s point.StephenB
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Lastly, I certainly don’t claim that the Boethian model is Catholic doctrine. I’m just saying I think it preserves human freedom better than the Bannezian/Thomist and Molinist/Jesuit models, both of which strike me as bizarre.
I don't have a problem that you think the Church's position on human freedom is bizarre, or that you offer an alternative. What I objected to was the suggestion that the Church teaches that free will or randomness (like quantum indeterminacy) is beyond God's Providence and sovereignty.rhampton7
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Hi rhampton7, You write that "nothing Science can discover that would ever contradict Faith." Really? So if science were to discover that the universe were eternal and had no beginning, that wouldn't refute Christianity? And if science were to discover that my choices were determined by my genes and/or my environment, that wouldn't disprove free will and hence Christianity? By the way, how could science ever establish that quantum indeterminacy was truly random, in the sense you envisage? And how would you distinguish a pseudo-random sequence from a truly random one? Lastly, I certainly don't claim that the Boethian model is Catholic doctrine. I'm just saying I think it preserves human freedom better than the Bannezian/Thomist and Molinist/Jesuit models, both of which strike me as bizarre.vjtorley
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Please read the Chapter 16, "Quantum Theory, Philsophy, and Theology: Is there a distinct Roman Catholic perspective?" from The Routledge Companion to Religion and Sciencerhampton7
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the outcome "is" the resultStephenB
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Jerry @110. You present an interesting scenario. Here is my difficulty: I suppose a boundary event in the absence of any further Divine intervention could guide true randomness (not apparent randomness) toward a “meaningful outcome,” but I don’t understand how it could guide true randomness toward a specified outcome. If the process produces exactly, and with no variation whatsoever, the one and only outcome pre-ordained by the Creator, how can such a process also be random and allow for many possible outcomes? You say that it is possible that the boundary conditions could lead “inexorably” to life and eventually to humans. In other words, they would lead to one and only one final outcome (homo-sapiens) and no other outcome. Again, I don’t understand how a process that leads inexorably to one outcome can also be a truly random process, which, by definition, could lead to many possible outcomes. I can understand how there might be temporary elements of randomness along the way (randomness being constrained?) in the same way that a pilot experiences random changes in direction as he makes adjustment to stay on course for his destination. Even at that, though, these changes are not truly random in an ontological sense. The laws of nature and the pilot’s actions can explain everything that happens. As far as I can tell, there are no true chance events in the mix in the sense that chance could actually cause something to happen. However you slice it, the outcome of the result of a guided process and would be pre-determined. If San Francisco is his intended target, that will be his destination. A truly random process would allow the airplane to end up wherever the elements of nature and the pilot’s whims might take it, just as a truly random evolutionary process would allow many possible outcomes, any one of which might be “meaningful,” but none of which would have been pre-ordained.StephenB
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OK, I really mean it this time. If I can't present my case in a thread with 100+ posts, another 100 isn't going to help. I have nothing more to add (written as I bite my tongue.)rhampton7
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VJT, The Church does not teach the Boethian view of free will, rather it acknowledges that there is an unsettled debate between the Thomist and Molinist views. What makes free will is truly free is that it is not the product of secondary causation. You can not calculate the decision based on a complete account of all that has gone before, a la Laplace. Because God foreknows, then God's plan accounts, and so God has sovereignty. So turn now to quantum Indeterminacy. Should science find some way to prove its nature, and it is revealed that it is "truly random", then by your reckoning science would have disproven God as Catholics understand Him. Of course the Church has considered the possibility, that's why they have the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, and it's why they have repeatedly claimed that nothing Science can discover that would ever contradict Faith. Ergo, if quantum Indeterminacy is real, then by definition God must have sovereignty over it. What do you think Catholic theologians, schools and University teach in regards to quantum Indeterminacy?rhampton7
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Hi Silver Asiatic, Thanks very much for the quote in #107 above. It was very helpful. Thanks again.vjtorley
June 25, 2014
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Hi rhampton7, Thank you for your post. You asked:
You seem believe that only pseudo-randomness can fit within divine providence. If so, why not pseudo-free will?
In reply: you might want to have a look at what Linda Zagzebski says about the Boethian model of Divine foreknowledge, which I defended above, in her book, The Dilemma of Freedom and Foreknowledge (Oxford University Press, 1991), pp. 58-59:
Furthermore, this model is compatible with most of the things we ordinarily say when referring to God’s providential activity. Need an adherent of the vision model deny that God has the power to interfere with our free choices and render them inefficacious? Need he deny that God can turn any human free act into the means to some providential good? Need he deny that God, by using his foreknowledge, can intervene before the choice is made in any manner he chooses? In each case the answer is no.
And here's an extract from a short essay on Divine foreknowledge which I wrote a few years ago, available online at http://www.angelfire.com/linux/vjtorley/whybelieve1.html#god-omniscience :
Another objection to the Boethian account is that it seems to be at odds with with a long-standing Christian tradition that at least some special individuals (the "elect") are infallibly predestined by God. Many Christians believe that the Virgin Mary and the Biblical prophets and saints, were chosen by God, as part of His plan for humanity, and that their salvation was therefore guaranteed. However, this presents no problems for the Boethian account, as there is nothing to prevent God from deciding to "elect" a few individuals for His own special reasons (relating to the salvation of the human race), while giving the rest of us the options of either choosing to accept His grace or choosing to reject it. Thus, in most cases, God's knowledge of our choices is retrospective, but God also decides to "mark" a few individuals for Himself by guaranteeing their salvation. But how can the Boethian account explain away prophecies like that of Jesus Christ, who said to Simon Peter, "Before the cock crows twice, you will have denied me three times"? If God's knew about Peter's choice only by "seeing" Peter make it, then how could Jesus then tell Peter what he was going to do? What was there to stop Peter from turning around and making a different choice? A defender of the Boethian account might answer that this kind of prophecy would indeed be a problem if it were commonplace - e.g. if God always announced what we were going to do before we did it - because in many cases, we could simply choose to do otherwise and thereby make God's predictions wrong, which is absurd. However, the fact that I am free does not mean that I am capable of any act of virtue, no matter how heroic it may be. (There are many kinds of heroic acts, which I know I am quite incapable of.) Jesus, looking into Peter's heart on the night of the Last Supper, would have seen that he was not courageous enough to acknowledge his Christian faith publicly when it meant putting his life at risk, and He may have then arranged to test Peter three times, by making a few people ask Peter if he was one of Jesus' disciples. (This would have been a one-off limitation of those people's freedom, but it raises no theological problems, as the people did nothing wrong in asking Peter if he was one of Jesus' followers.) That explains the prophecy.
I hope that answers your questions, rhampton 7.vjtorley
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Here is a theoretical but possible scenario by an all powerful God. The universe was created with specific boundary conditions. We know this to be true because of the fine tuning but we do not know all the parameters or the reason for the value of each one. They make life possible in certain places but we do not know why each is exactly as it is. These boundary conditions could guide to some extent any random events such that some random events will succeed in producing meaningful outcomes while other outcomes are impossible given the boundary conditions. It is also possible that the boundary conditions of the universe could lead inexorably to life and eventually to humans. Under this scenario, certain naturalistic processes would not be unguided but would look like they are. The problem is that we have not been able to see what these boundary conditions might be because they theoretically should still be operating and affecting natural processes. There is no evidence that any boundary condition exists or did exist that could guide inanimate matter into life or lead life into the information necessary for the incredible complexity that we see. What seems more reasonable from the evidence is that this may be actually impossible or that there is an ultimate reason for the frequent intervention of a designer. Christianity in particular requires a constant change in life's course due to interventions by God. That is what prayer is all about. But there may be many other things besides response to prayer that has led the world down just one of many possible paths. People like to play with counterfactual conditions all the time. Maybe only a meaningful universe is one that is determined not only by God but by his creations too and both are operating under free will. I am not sure how this fits in with any theology but it does not seem to violate Christianity.jerry
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In any case, the point at issue between us is precisely whether “secondary causes suffice to produce the intended effect.”
I must step in for one last comment. The above should read; "In any case, the point at issue is whether the Church accepts that “secondary causes suffice to produce the intended effect.” To which the Church states secondary causes only exist because of God's will, but that does not diminish the freedom God grants to secondary causes to act without intervention. And on quick question, if you will. You seem believe that only pseudo-randomness can fit within divine providence. If so, why not pseudo-free will?rhampton7
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The excerpt that I published above is from a Vatican publication. Here is what is at the end of the document"
The theme of “man created in the image of God” was submitted for study to the International Theological Commission. The preparation of this study was entrusted to a subcommission whose members included: Very Rev. J. Augustine Di Noia, O.P., Most Reverend Jean-Louis Bruguès, Msgr. Anton Strukelj, Rev. Tanios Bou Mansour, O.L.M., Rev. Adolpe Gesché, Most Reverend Willem Jacobus Eijk, Rev. Fadel Sidarouss, S.J., and Rev. Shun ichi Takayanagi, S.J. As the text developed, it was discussed at numerous meetings of the subcommission and several plenary sessions of the International Theological Commission held at Rome during the period 2000-2002. The present text was approved in forma specifica, by the written ballots of the International Theological Commission. It was then submitted to Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, the President of the Commission, who has give his permission for its publication.
I am not sure exactly what it says in detail. But is seems to be saying that it has no problems with intelligent design and that Neo-Darwinian evolution is not supported by the facts. There is nothing in it that contradicts or negates ID. Also if one presses the arrow at the top of the page, one gets the Vatican website with Pope Francis on it. This would mean it has some level of Church approval.jerry
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Quoting further from the text mentioned in 109 above (emphasis is mine):
Pope John Paul II stated some years ago that “new knowledge leads to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge”(“Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Evolution”1996). In continuity with previous twentieth century papal teaching on evolution (especially Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani Generis ), the Holy Father’s message acknowledges that there are “several theories of evolution” that are “materialist, reductionist and spiritualist” and thus incompatible with the Catholic faith. It follows that the message of Pope John Paul II cannot be read as a blanket approbation of all theories of evolution, including those of a neo-Darwinian provenance which explicitly deny to divine providence any truly causal role in the development of life in the universe. Mainly concerned with evolution as it “involves the question of man,” however, Pope John Paul’s message is specifically critical of materialistic theories of human origins and insists on the relevance of philosophy and theology for an adequate understanding of the “ontological leap” to the human which cannot be explained in purely scientific terms. The Church’s interest in evolution thus focuses particularly on “the conception of man” who, as created in the image of God, “cannot be subordinated as a pure means or instrument either to the species or to society.” As a person created in the image of God, he is capable of forming relationships of communion with other persons and with the triune God, as well as of exercising sovereignty and stewardship in the created universe. The implication of these remarks is that theories of evolution and of the origin of the universe possess particular theological interest when they touch on the doctrines of the creation ex nihilo and the creation of man in the image of God.
I think the word "explicity" is a problem in the above - maybe it's a translation issue. It should be "implicitly" as I read it. In any case, there's a strong anti-Darwinian statement in the above and Catholic evolutionists don't comment on that passage often. I lament also that Dr. Torley is a somewhat rare voice in the Catholic community -- but Michael Behe has been that for a long time and thankfully, the situation is changing for the better (although slowly).Silver Asiatic
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Jerry @ 102, The document "Communion and Stewardship" does not really settle anything for several reasons: First, it does not represent official Catholic teaching. Not every institution that uses that name has the authority to speak for the Church. Second, it misrepresents the views of St. Thomas Aquinas, making it appear as if, for him, Divine causality is synonymous with and limited to secondary causality. Third, it equivocates terribly on the meaning of words. As Timeaus points out, "contingency" does not mean the same thing as chance or randomness, though there can be overlapping similarities. What on earth does "radical contingency mean." For Stephen J. Gould, it meant, the power of "accidents and happenstanc" to shape the course of evolution. Are these authors trying to say that if the tape of life were to be played again, we would get a different result? How is that a Catholic or Christian concept? Fourth, and in keeping with the previous point, it avoids the main question: If God used an evolutionary process to create homo-sapiens, was the outcome of that process precisely what He intended or did nature, as the Christian Darwinists tell us, have the "freedom to create itself" and produce something that God did not intend? Fifth, the authors of that document seem to be speaking for a large group of Catholic dissidents who reject two important Catholic/Biblical teachings: evidence of God's handiwork in nature and monogenism. Sixth, the document itself avoids a vitally important philosophical/theological consideration. When discussing randomness in God's created order, are we talking about ontological randomness or epistemological randomness. Seventh, it does not recognize the true meaning of "Darwinian evolution," which, by definition, includes the metaphysical add on of unguidedness. This leaves the mistaken impression that Catholicism (or Christianity, for that matter) is compatible with Darwinism. I would love to discuss these issues with any Catholic Darwinst but none of them will make themselves available, except to refer me to documents such as the above.StephenB
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Hi rhampton7, Thank you for your response to my post. Before I address the question of whether God can use random processes to accomplish His ends, however, I'd like to point out that you've already made a number of concessions in this thread which place your version of evolution far beyond the pale of neo-Darwinian evolution. You do not merely disagree with its metaphysics; you disagree with its scientific conclusions as well. Your Pickwickian version of evolution You approvingly quote Fr. Longenecker, who writes:
All you have to believe is that there was, somewhere at some point in time a man and a woman who were our first parents and that they made a monumental choice to disobey God. My own theory is that there were other human-type creatures on earth, but that Adam and Eve were the first specially created humans with souls, with free will and perhaps the first with language. They were the first to have a relationship with God, and therefore the first parents of all who believe.
Fr. Longenecker clearly states that the teaching that there were exactly two original parents is something that you have to believe, if you are a Catholic. But as I explained in my article above, the unanimous consensus of modern evolutionary biologists is that there were never less than 1,000 individuals in the lineage leading to human beings. The only way you can reconcile the two statements is to suppose that God deliberately manipulated the genes of the first human beings, presumably in order to increase our genetic diversity. But that's a deus ex machina solution from a neo-Darwinian perspective, and it's an absolute no-no if you want to go on claiming (as you do) that you have no problem with neo-Darwinism as a scientific theory. Neo-Darwinism also teaches that the entire range of human capacities - including our capacities to reason, understand and make free choices - are grounded in our biology: they are physical capacities. In his Notebook C: Transmutation of species (2-7.1838), Darwin espoused a mechanistic account of the human mind (emphasis mine):
Why is thought, being a secretion of brain, more wonderful than gravity a property of matter? - It is our arrogance, it our admiration of ourselves. (Paragraph 166)
You, on the other hand, hold that these capacities are inexplicable in material terms, and that they are non-bodily capacities, which we possess by virtue of the fact that we have spiritual souls, created by God. In your own words: "As for Man, the Church holds that our souls are created directly and immediately by God, not by any act of reproduction." That's an utterly anti-Darwinian account of human nature: like Alfred Russel Wallace, you are declaring that our higher capacities cannot be explained as the product of matter, no matter how complex the configuration of that matter may be. I agree with you, of course, but I wonder why you continue to defend Darwinian evolution as a biological process, when you openly deny its sufficiency to account for fundamental features of human nature. Ten years after the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species in 1859, Wallace published an essay titled, "Sir Charles Lyell on Geological Climates and the Origin of Species" (S146: 1869) in the Quarterly Review (April 1869, pp. 359-394), in which he maintained that the appearance of human mental faculties could not be explained in terms of blind, mechanical processes, but required the intervention of a Higher Intelligence. When he finally read Wallace's essay, which argued that natural selection, left to itself, would only have given human beings a brain "a little superior to that of an ape," Darwin was so appalled that he scribbled "NO!!!!" in the margin and even underlined the word "NO" three times. Darwin went on to criticize Wallace's view in his later work, The Descent of Man (1871). You evidently regard Intelligent design as unscientific. However, the Church-friendly version of evolution which you espouse would be immediately thrown out of the school curriculum by the NCSE, on the grounds that it was "unscientific." Face it: you're in the same boat as we are, rhampton7. Our theory is banned from high school science classrooms, and so is yours. Randomness or pseudo-randomness? Now I'd like to address the issue of randomness. Consider the following well-known binary sequence: 0100011011000001010011100101110111... Statistically it appears random, but in reality, it's anything but random. If you examine it carefully, you can see it's just a list of the binary numbers: 0, 1, 00, 01, 10, 11, 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111, ... My point is that what looks random to scientists may not be random in reality. It's quite possible that the randomness we see in the quantum world is not genuine randomness, but merely pseudo-randomness, generated by some algorithm known only to God. In that case, the fact that God knows the outcome of quantum events is no mystery: in reality, He determines them. These events only appear to be undetermined. Now, if all you're saying is that events in Nature are pseudo-random, then I have no quarrel with you. In that case, we could say that God chose a particular set of laws and initial conditions that He infallibly foreknew would ultimately give rise to life in all its diversity. But that scenario is compatible with Intelligent Design: it's called front-loading. On this view, God made a universe with a very high degree of specified complexity from the get-go, and the level of complexity in the primordial cosmos was sufficient to generate the entire range of life-forms we see on Earth today. Behe's model of design without interference This kind of evolution was envisaged by Professor Michael Behe in his book, The Edge of Evolution (Free Press, 2007, pp. 231-232), when he imagines how an "uber-physicist" might make a designed cosmos, without interfering with it in any way (emphases mine):
Here's a cartoon example to help illustrate the point. Suppose the laboratory of Pope Mary's physicist is next to a huge warehouse in which is stored a colossal number of little shiny spheres. Each sphere encloses the complete history of a separate, self-contained, possible universe, waiting to be activated. (In other words, the warehouse can be considered a vast multiverse of possible universes, but none of them have yet been made real.) One enormous section of the warehouse contains all the universes that, if activated, would fail to produce life. They would develop into universes consisting of just one big black hole, universes without stars, universes without atoms, or other abysmal failures. In a small wing of the huge warehouse are stored possible universes that have the right general laws and constants of nature for life. Almost all of them, however, fall into the category of "close, but no cigar." For example, in one possible universe the Mars-sized body would hit the nascent earth at the wrong angle and life would never commence In one small room of the small wing are those universes that would develop life. Almost all of them, however, would not develop intelligent life. In one small closet of the small room of the small wing are placed possible universes that would actually develop intelligent life. One afternoon the uberphysicist walks from his lab to the warehouse, passes by the huge collection of possible dead universes, strolls into the small wing, over to the small room, opens the small closet, and selects on the extremely rare universes that is set up to lead to intelligent life. Then he "adds water" to activate it. In that case the now-active universe is fine-tuned to the very great degree of detail required, yet it is activated in a "single creative act." All that's required for the example to work is that some possible universe could follow the intended path without further prodding, and that the uberphysicist select it. After the first decisive moment the carefully chosen universe undergoes "natural development by laws implanted in it." In that universe, life evolves by common descent and a long series of mutations, but many aren't random. There are myriad Powerball-winning events, but they aren't due to chance. They were foreseen, and chosen from all the possible universes. Certainly that implies impressive power in the uberphysicist. But a being who can fine-tune the laws and constants of nature is immensely powerful. If the universe is purposely set up to produce intelligent life, I see no principled distinction between fine-tuning only its physics or, if necessary, fine-tuning whatever else is required. In either case the designer took all necessary steps to ensure life. Those who worry about "interference" should relax. The purposeful design of life to any degree is easily compatible with the idea that, after its initiation, the universe unfolded exclusively by the intended playing out of natural laws.
The problem with pure randomness in Nature Now, if that were your model of how God knows events in Nature (which are, in reality, not random but pseudo-random), then I would have no problem with your account, as and as it would possess the requisite degree of fine-tuning, and the outcomes would have been planned from the beginning. But you seem to be saying more than that, if I read you aright. You write that "randomness can be real in the scientific sense" (I'm not too sure what sense that is), that "sovereignty is not a master-slave relationship, or a clockwork affair," and that "nature has a kind of freedom." You also write: "'Radical' contingency is known to God, for it was God who granted the Universe with such a nature." You thus appear to be attributing to Nature something like a will, which you describe as "the freedom to choose" and "the freedom to move from one possibility to another," although you qualify this by adding that because Nature's freedom does not include the freedom to sin, it cannot be described as free will. You also quote Cardinal Schönborn, who declares: "Even if it sometimes seems without goal or direction in its individual steps, the lengthy path has had a purpose toward Easter and from Easter onward." This passage appears to suggest that while man is the ultimate goal of evolution, the length of time taken for man to evolve from the first cell was decided by spontaneous random natural processes. You thus appear to hold that at some ultimate level, Nature is genuinely random and unpredictable. You also appear to hold that Nature didn't have to be highly specified at the beginning. Presumably, you think that even if a possible universe were very simple in its laws and in the specification of its initial conditions, God might still somehow "just know" that if this universe were actualized, it would generate life in all its diversity, as we see it on Earth today. In other words, you don't seem to believe in the necessity of fine-tuning: you think God could make us using an arbitrarily simple universe. To see why this won't work, you should have a look at Professor Dembski's highly readable online essay, "Conservation of Information Made Simple." In short: the need for specified information does not go away, as you go further back in time. If life is highly specific now, then the initial conditions leading to life must have been equally specific. Further, you maintain that God plans the outcomes of genuinely random natural processes. Again I put it to you: to infallibly plan something to happen means to intend for it to happen. Even if one were to grant for argument's sake that God can know events (including “random” natural occurrences) without determining them, He cannot infallibly plan these events to happen without determining them. Hence if God infallibly planned the emergence of human beings, then He must have determined it to happen – in other words, He cannot have brought us into existence through processes that are inherently random and non-deterministic. Or as StephenB put it more succinctly above (#92):
According to the Bible and the Catholic Church, design in nature can be apprehended because God chose to reveal himself through his handiwork. That means that in any evolutionary scenario the order of events is critical: For Catholics, biological design must precede the process. For Darwinists or Christian Darwinists, the process must precede the design (or, more precisely, the appearance of design). Either the design in nature is an illusion, in which case it comes late, or else it is real, in which case it comes early. In order to be a faithful Catholic, you must take the latter position.
Why genuine randomness makes it impossible for God to know what happens in the world, without feedback So how, on your account, does God know the outcome of genuinely random quantum events? What you seem to believe is that God can have a knowledge of contingent events which is non-causal - God knows states of affairs without either determining them or being determined by them. But this invites the obvious question: since knowledge is justified true belief, what would justify such knowledge, and thereby distinguish it from a "lucky guess," which just happened to turn out correct? During the last 50 years, most philosophers have come to accept that an individual's knowledge of a proposition describing a contingent state of affairs depends on that individual being in the right causal relationship with the state of affairs in question. (The notorious Gettier problem is one of the main reasons why philosophers have come to think this way.) You argue that God's causal relationship with respect to creation is a permissive one: He sustains it in being, but without determining it or being determined by it. I would argue that your permissive Deity is incapable of knowing anything about the world. You defend a neo-Molinist account, according to which God contemplates a vast number of possible worlds (each of which is characterized by genuine randomness) before deciding which one He shall actualize, and in which God "just knows" what would happen at every stage in each of these possible worlds, even though there's nothing in any of these worlds which makes those outcomes happen, or which explains why they happen in the way that they do. In other words, God's knowledge is based on groundless counterfactuals - a doctrine which most philosophers (rightly, in my view) reject as utterly unintelligible. You respond:
You may not agree with the “how” provided by Molinism, but the net result is that the Church does not view “true” randomness as an obstacle because the outcomes are planned for (but not forced).
Now, it is quite true that the Catholic Church has never condemned Molinism (why should it?), but it would be absurd to conclude from that fact alone that the Church views the "true randomness" of an event as compatible with its having planned by God to happen. All that follows is that some theologians might see things that way. Problems with the Molinist account of Divine foreknowledge of our free choices Finally, I'd like to address the question of God's foreknowledge of our free choices. Unfortunately, the article in the Catholic Encyclopedia, which you cite, frames the debate as one in which there are only two schools of thought, making it, in your words, "a debate between the Dominicans/Thomists and the Jesuits/Molinists." I say: a plague on both their houses. On the Thomist account, God determines human choices - including sinful ones - and thereby knows them. On the Molinist account, God, by knowingly choosing to create a certain possible world, whose built-in specifications include the fact that I will choose X at time t, thereby determines my choice. Neither of these theological schools represents the faith of the common folk, down the ages, which is that God is like the watcher in the high tower, to cite a medieval metaphor, and that He knows my future choices through what is known as "knowledge of vision." Theologians down the ages have tended to thumb their noses at this common view, which is sometimes known as the Boethian view, arguing that it renders God unduly passive, but no Pope or Council has ever condemned this view. And today, some notable Catholic philosophers have finally sprung to its defense, including Linda Zagzebski, whom you approvingly cited earlier in this thread. Here is what she writes in The Dilemma of Freedom and Foreknowledge (Oxford University Press, 1991), pp. 58-59:
But on this view doesn't God's foreknowledge of my specific choice depend not only on his knowledge of his own will, but also on me? The answer is yes, but that hardly seems to be an unseemly kind of passivity. Giving human beings free will presumably involves giving them certain active powers with respect to which God is voluntarily passive. I do not see that this is inappropriate for a divine being or a sign of weakness. Furthermore, this model is compatible with most of the things we ordinarily say when referring to God's providential activity. Need an adherent of the vision model deny that God has the power to interfere with our free choices and render them inefficacious? Need he deny that God can turn any human free act into the means to some providential good? Need he deny that God, by using his foreknowledge, can intervene before the choice is made in any manner he chooses? In each case the answer is no.
You criticize the Boethian view, quoting a passage from the Catholic Encyclopedia's article on the Divine Attributes, where it declares:
That God knows infallibly and from eternity what, for example, a certain man, in the exercise of free will, will do or actually does in any given circumstances, and what he might or would actually have done in different circumstances is beyond doubt — being a corollary from the eternal actuality of Divine knowledge.
But the popular Boethian account of God's foreknowledge which I am defending here is quite compatible with God's knowledge of our actual and possible choices. As for whether God has knowledge of our hypothetical choices - e.g. what I would have chosen as a career had I been born blind - this is pure speculation, not defined doctrine: not until the sixteenth century did Luis de Molina insist that for every possible situation in which I might find myself, there is some particular choice (known to God) that I would have made. For my part, I would maintain that there is no "fact of the matter" for God to know about, as I wasn't born blind, and hence was never confronted with that choice. To talk about what I would have done in such a case is simply meaningless. (Of course, there are some cases in which we might feel inclined to grant a truth value to hypotheticals about human behavior. But in these cases, it is precisely because the behavior is not under our free control that we can assign a truth value to these hypotheticals. For example, we might say of a person who is still recovering from drug addiction that if they were to go back to their old friends, they would suffer a relapse and use drugs again. We say this precisely because the person isn't yet able to control their addiction.) Judas, again In an earlier post, I expressed my incredulity at your contention that God’s knowledge of Judas’ betrayal of Jesus is logically prior to His plan to redeem fallen humanity, but that the sinful act of Judas is the specific means God intends to use to accomplish this end. You replied that this is just standard Catholicism. I think you are putting a full stop (or period) where the Church leaves a comma. The Catholic Church has never declared that Judas' betrayal of Jesus was the one and only means by which God planned to redeem a fallen humanity. Nor has it ever declared that God’s knowledge of Judas’ betrayal is logically prior to His plan to redeem fallen humanity. I reiterate my earlier point: God does not plan for people to sin; rather, He plans His way around human sins. Suárez on God and the natural order You quote Francisco Suárez's work, De opere sex dierum (Lyon: 1621) as saying that “God does not interfere directly with the natural order, where secondary causes suffice to produce the intended effect” (II, c. x, n. 13). Are you aware of what he says in book 2, chapter 7, about the work of creation? "It is clear that corporeal causes could not have concurred effectively in this work by natural power, because it took place suddenly and throughout the whole earth." In the same work (1. 3. c.1, n.4 and 6), he adds that he regards the immediate formation of Adam’s and Eve’s bodies by God as "Catholic doctrine." Other theologians would disagree, of course, but my point is that Suárez is hardly your friend, and quoting him will not help your case. In any case, the point at issue between us is precisely whether "secondary causes suffice to produce the intended effect." I would maintain that they do not: in particular, they do not suffice to explain the origin of life and of complex animals, as Dr. Stephen Meyer has convincingly argued in his books, Signature in the Cell and Darwin's Doubt. You seem to believe that secondary causes are sufficient, primarily because you can conceive of a possible world in which God might have made life (and complex animals) in that way, and because you think that this way of making things would be more appropriate to the dignity of God. But that's armchair theology. Even if it would be easier for God to make things that way, the real question we need to answer is: is there any evidence that secondary causes in this world, i.e. the real world, are capable of giving rise to life in all its diversity? I would say that the evidence indicates otherwise. That might strike you as ugly and messy, but consider the positive side: it means that the appearance of life, and of complex animals, now constitutes evidence for Divine manipulation of Nature - which, according to Aquinas, is the best possible proof of God's existence:
…[D]ivine power can sometimes produce an effect, without prejudice to its providence, apart from the order implanted in natural things by God. In fact, He does this at times to manifest His power. For it can be manifested in no better way, that the whole of nature is subject to the divine will, than by the fact that sometimes He does something outside the order of nature. Indeed, this makes it evident that the order of things has proceeded from Him, not by natural necessity, but by free will. (Summa Contra Gentiles, Book III, chapter 99, paragraph 9.)
A natural order which needs to be manipulated by God in order to produce life is thus ideal for sending a message to intelligent creatures that God is actively involved in the world. Of course, God is also active in maintaining the world in existence, but special "acts of God" bespeak God's reality and power much more clearly than regular ones. William E. Carroll and the autonomy of Nature You quote a passage from Professor William E. Carroll's essay, "Creation, Evolution, and Thomas Aquinas."
For Aquinas, God is at work in every operation of nature, but the autonomy of nature is not an indication of some reduction in God’s power or activity; rather, it is an indication of His goodness. To ascribe to God (as first cause) all causal agency “eliminates the order of the universe, which is woven together through the order and connection of causes. For the first cause lends from the eminence of its goodness not only to other things that they are, but also that they are causes.”
Again, I ask: show me a single passage in the Summa Theologica where St. Thomas Aquinas supports Professor Carroll's belief in the autonomy of Nature. As we have seen, St. Thomas very much believed in an interventionist God, who creates various species of animals, as well as the first human beings, so it is utterly absurd and anachronistic to ascribe such a view to him. Finally, I don't for one minute wish to deny creatures their causality. But I also don't wish to ascribe to them a kind of causality that they could not possibly possess. If it is beyond the power of Nature to generate the digital codes and programs that must have characterized the first living cell, then I think we should give credit to the One to Whom it is due: God Almighty.vjtorley
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rhampton7: It's too bad that you have nothing more to add; it means that you exit with your last statement in error. In neither of my last two replies (97 and 99) did I argue or imply that I thought that the Church "teaches a material determinism" or endorses a "clockwork mechanism" of nature. Only someone with reading comprehension difficulties could think that I did. Nor have I argued or implied anything of the sort anywhere on this site. In fact, I explicitly stated that I accepted true contingency, but pointed out that "contingent" does not mean "random" or "by chance." My use of "contingent" comes out of the Thomist tradition, whereas your apparent conflation of "contingent" with "acting out of quantum randomness" is of course alien to that tradition. The unsourced quotation you here provide (you would flunk out of any academic program for regularly failing to give sources accurately) does not once mention "chance" or "randomness." As the statement stands, I don't disagree with it, so why you proffer it, I have no idea. It has been a pleasure challenging your autodidactic arrogance yet again, rhampton. Come back again whenever you are in the need of a good thumping -- er, ah, good instruction -- from people who actually know what Thomas and the Church teach. And do get around to reading Jay Richards's book, *God and Evolution*, sometime. There are several essays by Catholics in the book.Timaeus
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From a comment made by rhampton7 three years ago. https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/hideous-misrepresentations-outright-lies-and-demagoguing-of-id-at-wikipedia/#comment-387260
ID is part of God’s general revelation. Consequently, it can be understood apart from the Bible. That’s why, for instance, the Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies invited me to lecture on intelligent design and warmly embraced my message (this happened in October 2003). Just about anyone who is not wedded to a pure materialism agrees that some sort of design or purpose underlies nature. Intelligent design not only gives a voice to these people, but also gives them the tools to dismantle materialism. http://www.designinference.com/documents/2005.02.Reply_to_Henry_Morris.htm
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The above is from NTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION COMMUNION AND STEWARDSHIP: Human Persons Created in the Image of God* http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040723_communion-stewardship_en.html
69. The current scientific debate about the mechanisms at work in evolution requires theological comment insofar as it sometimes implies a misunderstanding of the nature of divine causality. Many neo-Darwinian scientists, as well as some of their critics, have concluded that, if evolution is a radically contingent materialistic process driven by natural selection and random genetic variation, then there can be no place in it for divine providential causality. A growing body of scientific critics of neo-Darwinism point to evidence of design (e.g., biological structures that exhibit specified complexity) that, in their view, cannot be explained in terms of a purely contingent process and that neo-Darwinians have ignored or misinterpreted. The nub of this currently lively disagreement involves scientific observation and generalization concerning whether the available data support inferences of design or chance, and cannot be settled by theology. But it is important to note that, according to the Catholic understanding of divine causality, true contingency in the created order is not incompatible with a purposeful divine providence. Divine causality and created causality radically differ in kind and not only in degree. Thus, even the outcome of a truly contingent natural process can nonetheless fall within God’s providential plan for creation. According to St. Thomas Aquinas: “The effect of divine providence is not only that things should happen somehow, but that they should happen either by necessity or by contingency. Therefore, whatsoever divine providence ordains to happen infallibly and of necessity happens infallibly and of necessity; and that happens from contingency, which the divine providence conceives to happen from contingency” (Summa theologiae, I, 22,4 ad 1). In the Catholic perspective, neo-Darwinians who adduce random genetic variation and natural selection as evidence that the process of evolution is absolutely unguided are straying beyond what can be demonstrated by science. Divine causality can be active in a process that is both contingent and guided. Any evolutionary mechanism that is contingent can only be contingent because God made it so. An unguided evolutionary process – one that falls outside the bounds of divine providence – simply cannot exist because “the causality of God, Who is the first agent, extends to all being, not only as to constituent principles of species, but also as to the individualizing principles....It necessarily follows that all things, inasmuch as they participate in existence, must likewise be subject to divine providence” (Summa theologiae I, 22, 2).
Maybe we try to unpack all this in layman's language.jerry
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StephenB, Timeaus, I do hope you sincerely try to establish that the Church teaches a material determinism, because I know that you will fail. Please consider what that means. Nature is not a clockwork mechanism, there is true contingency. To repeat;
But it is important to note that, according to the Catholic understanding of divine causality, true contingency in the created order is not incompatible with a purposeful divine providence. Divine causality and created causality radically differ in kind and not only in degree. Thus, even the outcome of a truly contingent natural process can nonetheless fall within God’s providential plan for creation.
I have nothing more to add.rhampton7
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rhampton7, I tried to introduce what I consider an essential part of this discussion that is being mostly ignored. It popped up in a couple recent posts, namely the concept of "evil." I believe it is at the heart of the convoluted thinking that some use to justify Darwinian evolution. In my post above I referenced a thread by Cornelius Hunter. On his blog he explains more carefully just what the Divine Action Project is. It is mainly an attempt to absolve God of responsibility for physical or natural evil. That is, bad things occurring from such things as natural disasters and disease. Here is the opening from Cornelius's blog on this:
Twenty five years ago the Vatican Observatory and the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences in Berkeley jointly sponsored a long-running series of conferences and publications on theology and science. Theologian Wesley Wildman calls it the Divine Action Project as so much of the work relates to the question of how God interacts with the world. And while the various participants hold to different nuanced views of divine action, they all generally agree that special divine action—the idea of God acting in miraculous or non law-like ways—is a problem.
And why is it a problem?
there was wide agreement among DAP participants that any postulate of SDA [special divine action] exacerbates the theodicy problem, so a lot of energy was expended in trying to deal with this.
In other words, divine action that is intentional and particular exacerbates the thorny problem of evil. If God is all-good, all-powerful and all-knowing, then there would be no evil in the world. Since there is evil, then God must not be all-good, or all-powerful or all-knowing.
http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-divine-action-project-is-another.html So, rhampton7, does this play any part in your thinking? Personally, I have no problem with the concept that Darwinian processes or natural events accounted for life and life's changes except that it is impossible based on current science for it to have happened this way. Or else God is covering up all evidence for how it happened and that introduces another thorny issue. Sidebar: I first came across this argument in the book on evolution by Ayala. He went to great lengths to describe the change in theology that took place as a result of the Lisbon earthquake. The tremendous natural evil that occurred that day shook up most of the Catholic theologians on the planet and they changed a lot of their thinking as a result. I believe we are seeing the results of it here on this thread.jerry
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rhampton7: Re your discussion of Aristotle and Aquinas: 1. I agree with you that Thomism is not Catholicism. Some blogging neo-Thomists, however, come very close (in practice, and in political and culture-war rhetoric, if not in formal statements) to identifying Thomism (a particular theological school) with Catholic doctrine itself. They tend to translate *every* discussion of doctrine into Thomist language, while showing no strong tendency to translate every discussion of doctrine into, say, Christian Platonist language, or Biblical language. One gets the impression that they think that if you are a Catholic theologian, you ought to be a neo-Thomist -- or else you will be an unclear and wrong-headed thinker who does not understand basic Catholic ideas. 2. It is interesting that you speak of Aristotle as being "wrong" about some things. The places where Aquinas disagrees with Aristotle, thinks Aristotle wrong, are important, and obvious enough, e.g., regarding the eternity of the world. But the subject I'm speaking about is the places where Aquinas thinks Aristotle is right, and is (according to you) misled because on those points Aristotle is wrong. Can you give us a short list of some teachings, principles, methods, etc. that Aquinas takes from Aristotle, which are wrong, faulty, etc.? Or if you would prefer, can you show us, in a line-by-line exegesis of Aquinas's argument for direct creation of higher animals, exactly where it is that Aristotle's metaphysics or epistemology or physics or logic etc. misleads Aquinas? In this request I am looking for *exposition by rhampton, not strings of quotations from or references to other authors*. I don't want to see any links. And I'm willing to read several long paragraphs, as long as they are *entirely your own words and reasoning*. 3. You write: "The conclusions of philosophy must rectify with science where they intersect." I find both the syntax and the meaning of "rectify with science" to be ambiguous. Perhaps you can clarify. And does what applies to philosophy apply to theology? Is it also the case that the conclusions of *theology* must "rectify with" the conclusions of science where they intersect? Be aware, as you answer the second question, that all of us here have Protestant evangelical TEs in the back of our minds, who constantly "rectify" theology, not science, whenever the two appear to overlap and differ. The de facto understanding of Protestant TEs if that if modern science teaches A, and traditional theology says not-A, it is theology's duty to change its conclusions and endorse A. Is this your position, that when theology and science appear to clash, theology should change rather than science? Or is your position the NOMA position, i.e., that theology and science can never clash, because they are about two entirely different things? Finally, I never denied that "true contingency" exists, or that the Catholic church allows that true contingency exists. But "contingency" is a synonym *neither for "randomness" nor "chance"*. And Aquinas certainly did not mean by "chance" what we today mean when we speak of quantum indeterminacy. It is grossly anachronistic to read passages of Aquinas about chance in such a way as to endorse particular views advocated by modern Christian theologians concerning quantum theory. As for contingency, it refers to the dependence of one event upon another. In the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum indeterminacy, the dependency of one event upon another is precisely what is denied. The timing of a radioactive emission, for example, is (allegedly) completely unpredictable with even an exhaustive knowledge of the state of the nucleus before the emission, or even with an exhaustive knowledge of the state of every particle in the universe before the emission. For this to be true, there can be no causal relationship between the previous state and the timing of the emission. Aquinas would not have accepted any such acausal account of any part of nature; nor would Aristotle. This is why I find modernizing Thomist approaches to science/theology discussions so often fraudulent. Aquinas's view of nature is not the view of nature held by modern theoretical physics; and since the idea of "nature" for Thomas has to do not simply with "natural science" but permeates the length and depth of his philosophy and theology, this is a very serious problem. I find that your remarks, and the remarks of many other supposed experts on Thomas who blog, are very inadequate to this situation. You all seem far too eager to show either that Aquinas is completely onside with modern ideas, or that if he had lived longer and learned some modern science he would have embraced modern ideas. This sort of revisionism, which runs roughshod over key philosophical notions in the thought of Thomas, is unscholarly, and creates theological muddles and errors. A properly textual approach ascertains first what Thomas believed and taught; the question of how far Thomas's thought is compatible with modern developments should be reserved until complete mastery of Thomas's thought has been achieved. I don't think that the majority of the scientists advising the Vatican on science/theology issues have done anywhere near enough study of Thomas to speak with any authority about the reconcilability of Thomas with their precious scientific assumptions about the nature of nature.Timaeus
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Are your decisions designed by God or by you?
By me.
How can you exercise true free will and still be under God’s sovereignty?
Because it was God's sovereign will that I should have a will.
Catholicism doesn’t see one as contradicting the other.>
I know that. Why are you telling me something I already know. The paradox of God's sovereignty and our free will has absolutely nothing to do with the conflict between Catholic doctrine and Darwinian evolution-----nothing. ---rhampton 7: "I don’t know what else can be said. Perhaps you would be more persuasive if you took up the question I asked of Timaeus.
why not supply evidence that the Church, as it xists today (or at least since Vatican II) teaches that randomness is beyond God’s sovereignty or that nature has no dynamic freedom, or that true contingency does not exist. To put it another way, show me that the Church teaches a material determinism (but not spiritual) like that of Laplace’s demon.
Perhaps you would be more persuasive if you didn't ignore all my questions while asking me to address your questions. In any case, I said that the official teaching of the Bible and the Catholic Church is that God created man in his image, which means that the output of whatever process He used, direct or indirect, was exactly what God wanted, both physically and mentally. That position is very easy to defend Biblically. Meanwhile, you will have to define what you mean when you ask me if nature has "dynamic freedom," since I have no idea what that term means. Does it mean that evolution is supposed to have the freedom to produce an outcome different from the one God intended? So, nature says to God, "You may want me to produce homo sapiens, but that is just, just so yesterday. I would prefer to give you a cyclops with a tail. I gotta be free! I gotta be me!" Is that what you mean by dynamic freedom? Does it mean that nature has the freedom to do exactly what God tells it to do and provide exactly the outcome He desires? In what way would nature be dynamically free in that context. Does it mean that thunderstorms are not always governed by physical laws or that their behavior could be spontaneous in some way? Does it mean that the leaves on my front lawn could have formed many different ways even under the same exact environmental circumstances? Does it mean that the moon could have formed in one of a thousand different ways and God let nature make the final call? Does it mean that, after man arrived, nature suddenly, and for the first time, had the freedom to be molded by man's free will and is no longer subject solely to physical laws? What does it mean, especially in the context of evolution, for nature to have dynamic freedom?StephenB
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