Whether they are programming codes of not, they indicate common descent.

I will get Falk’s book one day. Now I am reading EoE and Genetic Entropy.

The point is the “deletions”, the missing letterings, might be real programming codes. The earlier programming code, let say, was abcdefg. And the programming code for humans and apes are ab defg. The “blank” might be part of the code, not deletions.

“This is what Darwinist claim except there is a time difference of tens of millions of years as the various species arose.”

Darwinists claim a progressive “improvement” in genome fitness and complexity. My hypothesis is the reversal, i.e genetic entropy has occurred.

You should buy Darrel Falk’s book (Coming to Peace With Science: Bridging the Worlds Between Faith and Biology). In it he explains pseudogenes, deletions, etc. He also explains a lot of other things relevant to evolution.

Deletions are the same sequence as in older species that are still extant but with missing parts to sequence in later arising species. In other words they are identical to what exist in an older species except for a deletion and that same deletion then appears across other later arising species such as chimps and humans.

You said

“the same genome, eg. all apes (and perhaps even monkey, mice, etc.) and humans started out with more or less the same genome. Then over time, mutations occured to account for the 1% or 5% difference between humans and chimps.”

This is what Darwinist claim except there is a time difference of tens of millions of years as the various species arose.

Now, if SINE and LINE and other “junk” DNA are functional, then:

It is a possible scenario that all organisms in high-order taxonomic groups started out with more or less the same genome, eg. all apes (and perhaps even monkey, mice, etc.) and humans started out with more or less the same genome. Then over time, mutations occured to account for the 1% or 5% difference between humans and chimps.

The so-called “deletions”, “shared errors”, and retroviruses (HERV) might not be deletions, errors and viruses at all, but working programming codes.

How do they know there were “deletions”? They have assumed that the DNA 3-letter codons convert to amino acids. But if these DNA bits do not code for proteins, then there is no way to ascertain if any these deletions or insertions or errors have occured, unless one knows what DNA sequence code for what function.

I am not sure what you mean. What does “all organisms started out with the same genome” mean? Even if it is a hypothethical.

What if common descent is incorrect, yet all organisms started out with the same genome? How would that affect the evidence? Note that the question challenges several assumptions currently present in biology (note that I don’t agree with the question, but I think it raises some issues we need to think about).

Thanks for the reference to the Schaer site. I will read what he has to say. The interesting thing is that whether SINEs, LINEs, pseudogenes, deletions, retro viruses etc have functionality or not they are still an example of common descent. Common descent can have an intelligent origin and the fact that these odd sequences appear in multi-species indicate they have a common origin or common descent since they take place over time.

If all the DNA in all the genomes has function, that is not contradictory to common descent.

I saw this book on Amazon, The Black Box: Darwin, Marx, Nietzsche, Freud – Stories (Paperback)
by Nickell John Romjue (Author)

The “Black Box” in the title stands out alluringly. Has anyone read the book? Anything to share?

Here’s the review:

Editorial Reviews
Book Description

The world today is witnessing the terminal breakup of the great materialist belief systems of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries that so powerfully shaped the secular modern mind. No metaphor better encapsulates that breakup of the visionary theories and credos of nature, man, and society advanced by Darwin, Marx, Nietzsche, and Freud than The Black Box. Each of the materialist faiths generated by modernity’s famous quartet of founders contained an unknown chamber of surprises, a black box that its author could not, or did not see into.

Today the black boxes stand open. First, the intricate cell of life, which the crude optics of Darwin’s time could not penetrate, is indisputably a structure designed by intelligence. Second, the hidden component of mass killing that proved organic to Marxist revolutionary regimes. Third, the propensity of Nietzsche’s bold vision of trans-moral overmen to produce, not the aesthetic ideal, but cold totalitarian monsters. Fourth, the widespread subversion of individual moral behavior legitimized by the deluded Freudian assertion of the primacy of subconscious drives over the rational mind.

In the early twenty-first century, our civilization looks back upon the tragic legacy of materialism: a worldview that declared God to be a human invention, the galaxies and life on Earth cosmic accidents, and morality a factor of need and situation in an aimless universe. God substitutes emerged to fill the void. Religion-hostile National Socialist and Communist party regimes assumed in the twentieth century higher moral authority to kill their unwanted subjects and alien victims on a scale unprecedented in modern history. The stories of this book dramatize the life-crises of five acolytes of the famous four gospels of materialism that so powerfully shaped the violent twentieth century world, along with a sixth who returned on the eve of the millennium for a second look. In these stories, irony and humor could not be avoided.

You are going to have to explain all the common nucleotide sequences that are buried in introns at odd places in the same gene on the same chromosome if you are going to rule out all common descent. The most compelling is the identical deletion sequences. But there are others such as SINEs, LINE’s and retro-viruses.

Have you read this article, How Scientific Evidence is Changing the Tide of the Evolution vs. Intelligent Design Debate by Wade Schaer

The article was mentioned earlier on UD here: http://www.uncommondescent.com.....k-origins/

Schaer keeps us updated on the functionalities of SINE and LINE and other seemingly function-less DNA bits.

“amazing similarities in non functional nucleotide sequences for many species” may be explained by the functions which require the same DNA codes.

How can you have common descent without phylogeny?