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	<title>Comments on: This is Science? But some folks claim ID isn&#8217;t? Why?</title>
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		<title>By: Domoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL 

That&#039;s an awesome theory!! I love it. It&#039;s so scientific. xD 

At least ID is based off of observable evidence, mainly, the creation of complex objects and machines by intelligent agents.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s an awesome theory!! I love it. It&#8217;s so scientific. xD </p>
<p>At least ID is based off of observable evidence, mainly, the creation of complex objects and machines by intelligent agents.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TeePegg, 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Except for serendipity, where random happenstance results in important, unexpected observation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Serendipity is finding something good when you were looking for something else. In that vain, your comment makes no sense. Random happenstance doesn&#039;t build things more complicated than even the world&#039;s most complicated wristwatch. It just doesn&#039;t my friend. I&#039;m sorry that you had to hear it from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TeePegg, </p>
<blockquote><p>Except for serendipity, where random happenstance results in important, unexpected observation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Serendipity is finding something good when you were looking for something else. In that vain, your comment makes no sense. Random happenstance doesn&#8217;t build things more complicated than even the world&#8217;s most complicated wristwatch. It just doesn&#8217;t my friend. I&#8217;m sorry that you had to hear it from me.</p>
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		<title>By: TeePegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeePegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive,

&lt;blockquote&gt;We have a precedent for it, things that are designed by humans. We have no precedent for random happenstance to make designed things.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except for serendipity, where random happenstance results in important, unexpected observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive,</p>
<blockquote><p>We have a precedent for it, things that are designed by humans. We have no precedent for random happenstance to make designed things.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except for serendipity, where random happenstance results in important, unexpected observation.</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between science and non-science lies in the terminology. As long as the terminology sounds materialistic and mainstream-ish, it&#039;s all good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between science and non-science lies in the terminology. As long as the terminology sounds materialistic and mainstream-ish, it&#8217;s all good.</p>
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		<title>By: Seversky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seversky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Gregory Benford has a rather neat solution to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/eclectic/timescape.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grandfather paradox&lt;/a&gt; in his 1980 SF novel &lt;i&gt;Timescape&lt;/i&gt;.  If he is right then the sabotage from the future wouldn&#039;t work.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gregory Benford has a rather neat solution to the <a href="http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/eclectic/timescape.html" rel="nofollow">grandfather paradox</a> in his 1980 SF novel <i>Timescape</i>.  If he is right then the sabotage from the future wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: tragic mishap</title>
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		<dc:creator>tragic mishap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, actually you received this nickel thirty years ago.  It was a preemptive reimbursement.  The Higgs-boson particles did it for you in a successful future bid to de-fund the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, actually you received this nickel thirty years ago.  It was a preemptive reimbursement.  The Higgs-boson particles did it for you in a successful future bid to de-fund the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone claimed this was science.  I think everyone, including the scientists themselves, views it as speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone claimed this was science.  I think everyone, including the scientists themselves, views it as speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: JGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this could explain the sudden unexplainably weird urges I&#039;ve had recently to move to Switzerland, break into the LHC and hang uncooked turkey&#039;s in the main collider tunnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this could explain the sudden unexplainably weird urges I&#8217;ve had recently to move to Switzerland, break into the LHC and hang uncooked turkey&#8217;s in the main collider tunnel.</p>
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		<title>By: JGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It kinda makes sense...if time branches...but it doesn&#039;t if this particle &quot;destroyed&quot; the timelines that generated it, then would it ever have been existed in the first palfce to destroy the time path to that point?

Seems more paradoxical than logical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kinda makes sense&#8230;if time branches&#8230;but it doesn&#8217;t if this particle &#8220;destroyed&#8221; the timelines that generated it, then would it ever have been existed in the first palfce to destroy the time path to that point?</p>
<p>Seems more paradoxical than logical.</p>
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		<title>By: smordecai</title>
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		<dc:creator>smordecai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I read the novel! Flash Forward by Robert J. Sawyer. Now they&#039;ve made it into a TV series, only they changed the plot because they figured the public wouldn&#039;t understand the LHC search for the Higgs boson particle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I read the novel! Flash Forward by Robert J. Sawyer. Now they&#8217;ve made it into a TV series, only they changed the plot because they figured the public wouldn&#8217;t understand the LHC search for the Higgs boson particle.</p>
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