But back to the point. Why would a person seeking knowledge, already understanding that there are phenomena barely detectable yet unseen, not take a step further and consider there be other phenomena yet to be detected affected visible matter.

Empty speculation concerning virtually undetectable, or barely detectable, or already detected soul-stuff, or mind, or maybe information, or maybe some sort of mass curled up in extra dimensions (you know, whatever), with all the precision of a script from Lost in Space doesn’t much further one’s search for knowledge, IMHO.

There’s a timidity to go beyond detectable phenomena, but a temerity in holding fast to the notion that only what the eye sees matters.

But back to the point. Why would a person seeking knowledge, already understanding that there are phenomena barely detectable yet unseen, not take a step further and consider there be other phenomena yet to be detected affected visible matter.

Your timidity and temerity in limiting your pursuit of knowledge to the detectable is a pity.

- Timidity: Showing a lack of courage or confidence; easily frightened.

- Temerity: Excessive confidence or boldness; audacity.

- Vocabulary: Knowing what words and stuff mean before using them.

Is it not science that proposes 10/11 dimensions? Do we not know that there are material entities like x-ray,gamma rays, gravity, nuclear force, etc., that are unseen yet detectable? Their discovery adds to, rather than takes away from, the intuition that we have souls.

It seems that is has been those willing to ‘boldly go’ that are the ones driving discovery. Your timidity and temerity in limiting your pursuit of knowledge to the detectable is a pity.

Science could use a few bold visionaries willing to go out on a limb and say:

“You know what, it is extremely likely that the soul and God exists. We just simply do not yet understand them very well. Theology is helping us in this department and one day we will shake hands at a job well done and have the signing ceremony at the Crystal Palace”.

“Out of sight is not out of Mind”.

Actually, if we didn’t have souls we would be dead.

“When soul and body separate, experience as perceived through the mind is lost. But I believe a virtual copy of what the soul perceived through the mind interface is retained.”

There’s a very serious argument in philosophical circles – I don’t know how valid, that if we did not have souls, we wold be zombies.

The soul does have mass/weight since it is a created entity. It is simply material composed in a different dimension thus virtually undetectable in this dimension.

Boy, that is simple. There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge.

I forgot about that one.

When soul and body separate, experience as perceived through the mind is lost. But I believe a virtual copy of what the soul perceived through the mind interface is retained.

Seversky/Diffaxial. The soul does have mass/weight since it is a created entity. It is simply material composed in a different dimension thus virtually undetectable in this dimension.

Now maybe many generations from now, humans will devise some contraption to capture confused/anxious souls lingering in our dimension, but I don’t have time nor feel the need to wait on that empirical confirmation to determine if in fact there are lost souls in dire need of directions to the Crystal Palace.

To be sure, Faith is the logical solution. Go with your ‘gut’ rather than your eye. The wait is a killer and besides, if I’m not mistaken, the eye is of such a poor ‘design’ that one would be foolish to put too much credence in what it sees.

For instance, when a living organism dies it loses a very small quantity of mass. This has been independently verified by multiple investigators, although establishment science dismisses this claim as measurement error or worse.

lamarck @ 23:

It’s probably the mind.

I wonder when that mass enters the human body. At conception? The blastula stage? At birth? Does it grow proportionately throughout life? Or perhaps even more than proportionately, like our noses and ears?

If it occurs all at once during any of these earlier stages that should be observable too. Any mass sufficient to be measurable upon departing at death would dwarf early embryonic stages, instantly multiplying embryonic mass by thousands.

In fact, the entry of this mystery parcel all at once should be measurable simply by continuously weighing women in the hours subsequent to serious canoodling. It takes time for those wriggly little dudes to find their target, and I don’t think anyone posits the entry of this component prior to fertilization. Careful measurement of intake and output would be required, of course. Those women who later prove to be pregnant should have displayed an unaccountable increase in mass in those hours.

For instance, when a living organism dies it loses a very small quantity of mass. This has been independently verified by multiple investigators, although establishment science dismisses this claim as measurement error or worse.

Were you thinking of this?