You should listen to the eminent Darwinians speak on this topic. All of them would prefer a “socialist” society that helps the poor

because they want power over people’s lives. Socialism isn’t compassionate, or fair, and it doesn’t help the poor, it makes people poor, and keep them poor, while a ruling oligarchy of our ‘betters’ stays rich. some pigs are more equal than others.

ure capitalism, where the poor have no support from the government, is truely Darwinist,

on the contrary, its truly christian, where no one is FORCED to help his neighbor, but people do out of compassion. it is truly a compassionate society, compared to our thuggish, uncaring socialist economy, where no one cares about anyone else, because the government is supposed to.

[From Denyse: When I gave the plenary address at Write! Canada in 2007, of about 300 writers in the room, almost no one knew about the way in which believing Christians and observant Jews are targeted by "human rights" commissions, usually dominated by leftists and in some cases egged on by Islamists. It was an observant Jewish lawyer who pointed out that, based on his study of cases, serious Christians are disproportionately targeted.

The people I was addressing were Christian communicators and they didn't even know? But it is their job to know! Since then, I have listened to many, many crickets chirp and - see below - many people stomping for Jesus. Will you face the same problem in the USA? I sure hope not. You will not much like the results.]

“What exactly is “stomping for Jesus”? Is this a way of saying that North American Christians have emphasized evangelism to the exclusion of discipleship? If so, I agree with the assessment, but this is not what the vast majority of evangelical churches have been doing. Considering that nearly 80% of churches in the USA will have an overall attendance of 150 or less tomorrow, it seems unfair to judge the majority based on the performance of a handful of mega-churches.”

[From Denyse: Stomping for Jesus? We holler and stomp on Sunday morning but then we go away and do nothing of consequence about the slow ebb of civil liberties. We may even vote for political parties dedicated to stamping them out, if our union tells us to.

(In context: The single biggest source of tolerated anti-Semitism in Canada is Islamism and the second biggest is leftism. These people cover their activities by pretending that social conservatives are anti-Semitic, so they can attack the Jews and Christians and Muslims who oppose them.

Reality check: The free speech journalists and bloggers' lunches I enjoy on occasion are heavily populated by both observant Jews and observant Christians, as well as agnostics. I'd invite my Muslim writer friends too, but unhappily they don't live in Toronto. If they are in town, I will invite them. We all get along fine. It is the fanatics empowered by government-sponsored "anti-hate" crusades that we all have common problems with.)

We don't have many mega-churches here in Canada, but I accept your assessment of the US situation. My point is that many Christians do not see the threat rolling their way from institutions dominated at the top by atheists, whether admitted or practical, who give leftists and Islamists a free rein.

One thing we ID people hope to rectify - the only thing we can do in our own right - is to restore a rational basis to science, based on the design of the universe and life forms. I am delighted that you wish us well, when so many don't.]

“Thanks to the work you’ve done writing and publishing about the situation in Canada, the alarm bells have been rung in many of the smaller churches and communities around the USA. The result has been the awakening of a rather large group of informed voters who have become willing to take a stand for truth and liberty. For the small church pastor the problem seems absolutely overwhelming for the perceived impact of our efforts; however, we do what we do because we understand that Truth is worth the effort and sacrifice. We’re taking your warnings very seriously and are doing what we can to sound the alarm.”

[From Denyse: Sir, you have made my day! I never thought anything I said would matter. I felt I had to say it, so no one could say I had not said anything. We had forty years of that stuff in Canada, and it has been awful - especially if you are a journalist or pastor who feels you must say something in the public interest. We are starting to fight our way back to the open society, but it is very difficult when we face an entrenched civil service and NGOs dedicated to the opposite. You Americans could spare yourselves forty years of tribulation if you take a stand now. Is it worth it for your grandchildren? ]

Thought for the day: the best patrimony anyone can offer their grandchildren is a free and open society. Money or religion are just alternative forms of jail if one must live under guard and can’t go anywhere without a bodyguard or escort.

And if you don’t believe me, read this.

Laughable, you ought to stick to what you know about, and that appears to include neither the U.S. nor Canada.

Like PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins? Fundamentalists Christians are a minority group. They incite hate towards them.

Actually, “hate speech” is a repellent concept since the “hate” would be defined, subjectively, by those controlling the political process.

The only antidote to speech is more speech.

The vast majority of defendants under infamous Section 13 and many other unconstitutional statutes and decisions that have grown like weeds here in Canada *could not afford legal representation.*

So they were convicted.

In a normal court, a public defender would be appointed.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

English Common Law does not apply to Canadian “human rights” commissions. So no public defender.

Australian, are you? Fine. I do NOT want to hear you rabbiting on again about things no one here disputes, just because you have not bothered to familiarize yourself with your pontificate before you hold forth.

Three books have been published about the abuses in Canada in the past year, to say nothing of well-publicized hearing on Parliament Hill and at Queen’s Park (Ontario legislature) -and doubtless elsewhere.

Either get up to speed or get onto another topic – pronto. I am getting pretty sick of the sight of bodies under the bus full of well-heeled civil servants.

That is not what Canada is about.

You say “It is interesting to know that a Darwinist thinks that is fair.”

You should listen to the eminent Darwinians speak on this topic. All of them would prefer a “socialist” society that helps the poor, rather than that of base capitalism. None of them WANT the world to be a ‘survival of the fittest’. Just because nature generally operates with darwinian principles it doesn’t mean WE should act that way, or want the world to be that way. We have the intelligence, the grace and the ability to behave differently.

Pure capitalism, where the poor have no support from the government, is truely Darwinist, which is something I would imagine proper Christians would want to avoid like the plague. It’s interesting that the Christian Right in America WANT to be ruled by a dawinian system, whereas left wing evolutionists want a socialist system that supports those in need.

They’ll cover it as a sensation, at first, sure, but soon the detraction and minimization will start.

Fair enough, but isn’t it a bit premature to be outraged at the (presumed) forthcoming scorn? Besides isn’t being attacked by the liberal media a badge of honor in social conservative circles?