Comments on: Professionalizing the Critique of ID http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/professionalizing-the-critique-of-id/ Serving The Intelligent Design Community Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:02:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: John Derbyshire: “I will not do my homework!” | Uncommon Descent http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/professionalizing-the-critique-of-id/comment-page-1/#comment-123330 John Derbyshire: “I will not do my homework!” | Uncommon Descent Thu, 31 May 2007 07:14:41 +0000 http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-123330 [...] There’s a larger issue at stake here. I’ve now seen on several occasions where critics of design give no evidence of having read anything on the topic — and they’re proud of it! I recall Everett Mendelson from Harvard speaking at a Baylor conference I organized in 2000 decrying intelligent design but spending the whole talk going after William Paley. I recall Lee Silver so embarrassing himself for lack of knowing anything about ID in a debate with me at Princeton that Wesley Elsberry chided him to “please leave debating ID advocates to the professionals” (go here for the Silver-Elsberry exchange; for the actual debate, go here). More recently, Randy Olson, of FLOCK OF DODOS fame, claimed in making this documentary on ID that he had read nothing on the topic (as a colleague at Notre Dame recently reported, privately, on a talk Randy gave there: “He then explained how he deliberately didn’t do research for his documentary, and showed some movie clips on the value of spontaneity in film making”). And then there’s Derbyshire. [...] [...] There’s a larger issue at stake here. I’ve now seen on several occasions where critics of design give no evidence of having read anything on the topic — and they’re proud of it! I recall Everett Mendelson from Harvard speaking at a Baylor conference I organized in 2000 decrying intelligent design but spending the whole talk going after William Paley. I recall Lee Silver so embarrassing himself for lack of knowing anything about ID in a debate with me at Princeton that Wesley Elsberry chided him to “please leave debating ID advocates to the professionals” (go here for the Silver-Elsberry exchange; for the actual debate, go here). More recently, Randy Olson, of FLOCK OF DODOS fame, claimed in making this documentary on ID that he had read nothing on the topic (as a colleague at Notre Dame recently reported, privately, on a talk Randy gave there: “He then explained how he deliberately didn’t do research for his documentary, and showed some movie clips on the value of spontaneity in film making”). And then there’s Derbyshire. [...]

]]> By: Gumpngreen http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/professionalizing-the-critique-of-id/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Gumpngreen Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:36:10 +0000 http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-14 Lee Silver claims to have extensively studied the beliefs of evangelicals and then he makes a claim like this: [QUOTE]Evangelical Christians believe that they must convert everyone else in the world to their own form of Christianity, in order to maximize their own chances of getting into heaven.[/QUOTE] For someone making a claim like that he sure has missed out on the core beliefs. Lee Silver claims to have extensively studied the beliefs of evangelicals and then he makes a claim like this:

[QUOTE]Evangelical Christians believe that they must convert everyone else in the world to their own form of Christianity, in order to maximize their own chances of getting into heaven.[/QUOTE]

For someone making a claim like that he sure has missed out on the core beliefs.

]]> By: msi8401 http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/professionalizing-the-critique-of-id/comment-page-1/#comment-9 msi8401 Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:56:14 +0000 http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-9 Lee Silver emphasizes what an expert he is about the Christian religion, but apparently he thinks the Bible says that God planted seeds in the ground to create plants, etc. What the Bible actually says is "Let the earth bring forth vegetation, etc." (Genesis 1:11)--i.e God spoke and the earth did the bringing forth. I agree with Elsberry that people who oppose ID ought to stick to making reasonable, scientific arguments, as opposed to engaging in personal or religious attacks. Lee Silver emphasizes what an expert he is about the Christian religion, but apparently he thinks the Bible says that God planted seeds in the ground to create plants, etc. What the Bible actually says is “Let the earth bring forth vegetation, etc.” (Genesis 1:11)–i.e God spoke and the earth did the bringing forth. I agree with Elsberry that people who oppose ID ought to stick to making reasonable, scientific arguments, as opposed to engaging in personal or religious attacks.

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