Comments on: Prebiotic Earth Scenarios Founded On Tarry Barbecue Mess

By: Mapou

Mapou — Sat, 23 May 2009 05:39:17 +0000

TCS, thanks for the link.

By: TCS

TCS — Fri, 22 May 2009 21:11:07 +0000

herb, yes he has recovered, and his wife has also. He tells both stories in the audio.

By: Adel DiBagno

Adel DiBagno — Fri, 22 May 2009 21:00:31 +0000

After studying the lives of more than a dozen of the world’s most influential atheists, Vitz discovered that they all had one thing in common: Defective relationships with their fathers. By defective, Vitz means the fathers were dead, abusive, weak, or abandoned their children.

One thing in common? I count four things not in common.

By: herb

herb — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:30:24 +0000

TCS,

You might find this audio presentation of interest: The Psychology of Atheism.

Thanks—I’m going to give that a listen over the weekend. Sounds like he has some interesting theories. From a review of one of his books:

After studying the lives of more than a dozen of the world’s most influential atheists, Vitz discovered that they all had one thing in common: Defective relationships with their fathers. By defective, Vitz means the fathers were dead, abusive, weak, or abandoned their children.

The only reservation I have is that he allegedly was an atheist himself until his 30′s or so, but apparently he has recovered.

By: TCS

TCS — Fri, 22 May 2009 13:43:14 +0000

Mapou, You might find this audio presentation of interest: The Psychology of Atheism.

By: tribune7

tribune7 — Fri, 22 May 2009 12:25:40 +0000

Hate is very wasteful, I leave that to religion.
Like atheism.

By: rvb8

rvb8 — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:04:18 +0000

Mapou: “With the pre-biotic earth reduced to a tarry B-BQ mess upon which magic is the best we can come up with for explaining the origins of life’s biochemistry, one might rightly ask how much of what is under discussion falls within contemporary limitations over what is definable as science.” (Robert Deyes)
This sounds remarkably like a person suggesting pre-biotic environments fall outside the area of the knowable.
As to hate, if my hate is as you say, subconscious, then, thank you for the diagnosis. You’ll be sure to inform me if my atheism is actually faith in a different guise won’t you?

By: Mapou

Mapou — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:45:20 +0000

rvb8 @11:

Mapou; ‘full of hate’? Not really, merely skeptical that people suggesting it is impossible to know a pre-biotic past

See? There you go again. Your hate is subconscious. Who said that a prebiotic past is impossible to know? That is neither the point nor the argument. The argument is that a naturalistic origin of life comes face to face againt a wall of exponential and sequential complexity that no prebiotic soup can ever hope to breach. The absurdity is so blinding, it hurts just to think about it. Monkeys banging on typewriters do not do it justice.

Hate is very wasteful, I leave that to religion.

Your hate IS religious in nature. You are too blind to notice it.

By: rvb8

rvb8 — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:05:25 +0000

Mapou; ‘full of hate’? Not really, merely skeptical that people suggesting it is impossible to know a pre-biotic past are the most qualified to judge those who give plausible possibilities of this past, and then extrapolate from those possibilities a path for life to emerge.
Hate is very wasteful, I leave that to religion.

By: Bilboe

Bilboe — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:32:27 +0000

Hmmm, that last hyperlink didn't work. Let's try one