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Pope Benedict’s comments on evolution: Hey, don’t read too much into media spin

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There’s been a fair amount of speculation based on media reports. But media reports are almost never a good source of information on Catholic teachings, so let’s wait and see. Most deadtrees see their role as promoting materialism. So even if they understood what the Pope was saying, reporters would feel duty bound to garble it.

Jay Richards, a research fellow at the Acton Institute and co-author of Privileged Planet [remember the Smithsonian uproar? No no, not the one that involved Rick Sternberg, the other one]  offers some thoughts as to why such reports are almost never a useful source of information:

I suspect there’s a translation problem here. Reading between the lines, it looked like Benedict said some pretty strong things. Of course he’s challenging scientism and calling for a broader concept of reason than is contained in experimental science. That’s easy for classically informed philosophers and phylogenists to understand. But you can be sure that exactly 0% of reporters and 1% of readers will understand that. What every reporter will take away is that all this talk about God, purpose, and design are private, since in modern parlance, only “science” constitutes public knowledge. Thus the story ends: “”This … inevitably leads to a question that goes beyond science … where did this rationality come from?” he asked. Answering his own question, he said it came from the “creative reason” of God.”” Thus is the dispute domesticated into categories acceptable to the secularist. God gets to be discussed in conversations that go “beyond science,” along with fairies and the Easter bunny.

This issue is just not that complicated, despite the sociological pressures to keep the fog machines going at all times. Either (some or all) of the history and complexity of life are the product of design or they’re not. Either that design is discernible or it’s not. Evolution is either purely random or it’s not. Not even God can direct an undirected process. Complicated discussions about the definition of “philosophy,” “reason,” and “science” are dull blades. The reader is thus left to vaguely believe something that I’m sure is not true: that the Pope endorses a two-truths view, according to which Darwinism works as “science” (narrowly defined) but theological types get to talk about God as long as they call it philosophy and promise not to make trouble for the Darwinists.

No, I’ll bet B-16 doesn’t think that either. For a more credible idea of Catholic thought on the subject, go here.

Here are some stories I posted at the Post-Darwinist today:

Origin of life: Tangled skein continues to tangle

Intelligent design and popular culture: Psychiatrist tries analyzing ID folk en masse

Nancy Pearcey, author of Total Truth, offers some insight into why Darwin’s theory was controversial and how long it took most evangelicals to actually “get it”:

The tragedy is not just that evangelicals failed to meet the challenge: For the most part they did not even recognize it. As good Baconians, evangelicals denied the role of philosophical assumptions in science – and thus they were powerless to critique and counter the new assumptions when they appeared on the intellectual horizon. A great many of them simply took the facts that Darwin presented and inserted them into the older philosophy of nature as an open system – not realizing, apparently, that the older philosophy was precisely what was under attack.

Great news! ID theorist Mike Behe’s new book, The Edge of Evolution, following up on Darwin’s Black Box, has already attracted a profoundly negative review – and it is not even published yet.

Re the recent accusations that the ID guys are in denial: Here’s a link to an interesting column on the origin of “denial” as an alleged problem in the wilds of therapy talk. You’d think sci guys would want to steer clear of that goop, but hey.

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Denyse, you’re most welcome! If it helps the ID folks to know that they are appreciated, then count me in as a most ardent fan. What could be more important then ID? for if there is no purpose then nothing matters, and if there is purpose then nothing else matters (to paraphrase an old adage). Perhaps another reason that clerics have such a problem being clear is that the more tightly woven into an institution one is the more difficult it is to make waves. This, I believe, is as true in religion as it is in science or politics. The pursuit of truth is not the primary motive that bonds most people together—rather it’s conformity—innovation and new information always threaten solidarity. It is therefore those brave enough to break from the pack who drive the engine of discovery, and it is in this sense that science is not consensus, as Michael Crichton reminds us.Rude
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Thanks much for your kind words, Rude. In fairness, it may be that the preachers and popes and rabbis and imams do not have the "ability" to tell it like it is. In my experience, most are accustomed to a rarified world of ideas. And, contrary to vulgar anti-religious stereotypes, most of the religious people they encounter in their daily work are virtuous, almost to a fault. So the clergy don't often get their faces rubbed in the things their congregations must deal with in an aggressively materialist world. And the congregations are often too polite and deferential to tell them in so many words what is happening out there. Or else they can't find the words. Or they fear that there is no point bringing it up, as nothing can be done. Jay Richards is a very clear writer for a philosopher, and Nancy Pearcey and I are professional writers, so we two at least might be expected to make things clear. That's our main job. The difficulty is that,with most mainstream media writers seeing THEIR job as fronting for materialism, there are not many mainstream writers who do the job we do. I hope we will continue to do it as well as possible.O'Leary
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I think Dr. Mike Behe deserves a round of applause not only for producing great work but for putting up with all the bull shit he receives from the Darwinists and the scientific and cultural elites.DanaMcgee
April 12, 2007
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It would be easier were the preachers and popes and rabbis and imams to muster the courage to tell it like it is—but alas! For the most part they cannot. And so let us be thankful for those brave and independent spirits with the chutzpah—finally—to “speak truth to power”. I particularly enjoyed the clarity of Jay Richards above: “Either that design is discernible or it’s not. Evolution is either purely random or it’s not. Not even God can direct an undirected process.” And Nancy Pearcey above: “A great many of them simply took the facts that Darwin presented and inserted them into the older philosophy of nature as an open system - not realizing, apparently, that the older philosophy was precisely what was under attack.” And Denyse O’Leary: “I expect we will be hearing from many a dog-collar, reassuring us that ‘religion’ is entirely compatible with a universe that shows no evidence of design. And incompatible with a universe that does show evidence of design. But least compatible with the idea of looking for evidence.” And Denyse again: “So the lesson here is, if you are traditional Christian, theist, or non-materialist of any description, edge away from that grinning, baby-faced clergyperson who assures you that ‘evolution’ (= Darwinism) is ‘entirely compatible with your faith.’”Rude
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