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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135494</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name Botnik itself was enough to clue me in that it was a joke.  And I didn&#039;t know about the plans for the parody or that it would be under the name &quot;botnik&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Botnik itself was enough to clue me in that it was a joke.  And I didn&#8217;t know about the plans for the parody or that it would be under the name &#8220;botnik&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Krebs</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Krebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - I meant &quot;Dear Mr. Botnik&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; I meant &#8220;Dear Mr. Botnik&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Krebs</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135465</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Krebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter did start with Dr. Mr. Botnik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter did start with Dr. Mr. Botnik.</p>
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		<title>By: BarryA</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135463</link>
		<dc:creator>BarryA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was an obvious parady from the first line (the salutation).  Who really believes that a university president would address a letter to &quot;Dear Botnick?&quot;  At the very least one would expect him to say &quot;Dear Mr. Botnick.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was an obvious parady from the first line (the salutation).  Who really believes that a university president would address a letter to &#8220;Dear Botnick?&#8221;  At the very least one would expect him to say &#8220;Dear Mr. Botnick.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who sent letters to Lilley must be descended from the people who panicked during the radio broadcast of &quot;War of the Worlds&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who sent letters to Lilley must be descended from the people who panicked during the radio broadcast of &#8220;War of the Worlds&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fafarman</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135407</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Fafarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To accuse anyone of falling for Judge Jones&#039; claptrap is extremely libelous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To accuse anyone of falling for Judge Jones&#8217; claptrap is extremely libelous.</p>
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		<title>By: StephenB</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135373</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parody assumed a high level of sophistication from UD readers, and I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mind the compliment. I just wish I had been more alert.  Humor is a great thing, and I hope we donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get gun shy to the point where we canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t continue to poke fun at our adversaries and ourselves.

. The problem is that this episode interrupted a substantive discussion some of us were having with Baylor apologists on a related post. We had been arguing that Baylor was not being true to its mission over objections that we were Ã¢â‚¬Å“dragging the schoolÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s name through the mud.Ã¢â‚¬Â Obviously, such was not the case, and we had pretty much proven the point. So much so, that our critics had run out of excuses and had apparently been silenced.  

The news that this new post was a parody changed the dynamic completely. Having been vanquished, our detractors found new life. Suddenly the claim was Ã¢â‚¬Å“see I told you were mean-spirited and this proves it. All those reasoned arguments you presented earlier mean nothing now.Ã¢â‚¬Â In any other context, this kind of creativity would have been a welcome diversion. But the difference between a diversion and a distraction is timing. Perhaps if we hadnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t already been psychologically invested in the argument, we would have been alert enough to pick up on the joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parody assumed a high level of sophistication from UD readers, and I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mind the compliment. I just wish I had been more alert.  Humor is a great thing, and I hope we donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get gun shy to the point where we canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t continue to poke fun at our adversaries and ourselves.</p>
<p>. The problem is that this episode interrupted a substantive discussion some of us were having with Baylor apologists on a related post. We had been arguing that Baylor was not being true to its mission over objections that we were Ã¢â‚¬Å“dragging the schoolÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s name through the mud.Ã¢â‚¬Â Obviously, such was not the case, and we had pretty much proven the point. So much so, that our critics had run out of excuses and had apparently been silenced.  </p>
<p>The news that this new post was a parody changed the dynamic completely. Having been vanquished, our detractors found new life. Suddenly the claim was Ã¢â‚¬Å“see I told you were mean-spirited and this proves it. All those reasoned arguments you presented earlier mean nothing now.Ã¢â‚¬Â In any other context, this kind of creativity would have been a welcome diversion. But the difference between a diversion and a distraction is timing. Perhaps if we hadnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t already been psychologically invested in the argument, we would have been alert enough to pick up on the joke.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-xian</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/parody-at-ud/comment-page-1/#comment-135369</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-xian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contrary, I was surprised by the tone and content of the letter.

Also, was the letter posted under humor?  I have a difficult time seeing the tags because of their color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, I was surprised by the tone and content of the letter.</p>
<p>Also, was the letter posted under humor?  I have a difficult time seeing the tags because of their color.</p>
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		<title>By: bornagain77</title>
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		<dc:creator>bornagain77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, as preposterous as the letter is in retrospect it still underlines the typical type of unsubstantiated rebuttals we face constantly from Darwinists.
 In other words, The only reason it was taken seriously is that that is exactly what we have to face from our opponents.
 It is a shame that our opponents could use such lame rebuttals and claim that they are defending &quot;science, when is truth, as the letter indicates, they have nothing but fluff to argue with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, as preposterous as the letter is in retrospect it still underlines the typical type of unsubstantiated rebuttals we face constantly from Darwinists.<br />
 In other words, The only reason it was taken seriously is that that is exactly what we have to face from our opponents.<br />
 It is a shame that our opponents could use such lame rebuttals and claim that they are defending &#8220;science, when is truth, as the letter indicates, they have nothing but fluff to argue with!</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Clearly, readers of UD fell for it, but so did many people on the other side, judging by all the many emails they sent President Lilley to confirm whether BotnikÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s parody actually represented LilleyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s words&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Botnik thought he had ventured beyond &quot;The Edge of Anti-ID&quot;, but apparently didn&#039;t go far enough, since people on both sides believed that a university president might actually pen such a letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clearly, readers of UD fell for it, but so did many people on the other side, judging by all the many emails they sent President Lilley to confirm whether BotnikÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s parody actually represented LilleyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s words</p></blockquote>
<p>Botnik thought he had ventured beyond &#8220;The Edge of Anti-ID&#8221;, but apparently didn&#8217;t go far enough, since people on both sides believed that a university president might actually pen such a letter.</p>
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