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By: John Davison

John Davison — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:48:24 +0000

I never said it did. What I was referring to was the number of chambers or are you going to deny that as well? It starts out as a tube and ends up with four chambers. That recapitulates our ancestry to a tee or do I understand that you don’t think we had any ancestors. Don’t be shy, speak right up. I very carefully used the words “like a.” Words have meaning and I used mine carefully as I always do. Don’t misrepresent me. It makes me irritable. Got that?

Why don’t you tell us what you believe. That is what I have always done. That is why have so many enemies. I am always willing to have a few more.

I love it so!

By: DaveWatt

DaveWatt — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:13:49 +0000

JD,

The embryonic mammalian heart does not start out like the heart of the adult amphioxus, it does not metamorphose into an adult teleost heart, an adult amphibian heart or an adult bird heart. Got that?

By: John Davison

John Davison — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:57:35 +0000

DaveWatt

The heart in every vertebrate embryo begins as a simple tube like the heart of Amphioxus which progressively metamorphoses into one with two chambers, like a fish, next into three like an amphibian then finally into four like a bird or mammal. Furthermore it does this without losing a drop of blood. Don’t tell me that Haeckel’s recapitulation “theory” is “entirely wrong.” It only proves you are no embryologist. Got that? Write that down.

What do you do for a living or would you rather not say?

By: John Davison

John Davison — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:21:38 +0000

Good for you DaveWatt whoever that really is. Write a paper to that effect and try to get it published. Good luck.

By: DaveWatt

DaveWatt — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:09:55 +0000

JD:

Haeckel’s recapitulation theory – that embryos recapitulate the adult forms of their ancestors – is entirely wrong.

DS:

I’m glad you think the song is silly.

- DaveW

By: John Davison

John Davison — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:30:34 +0000

Haeckel’s recapitulation hypothesis is not entirely wrong at all. Every metazoan develops through a stage called the gastrula. That stage has a single opening into what will become the digestive system. In the Deuterostomia (Echinoderms and Chordates), that opening is closely associated with, if not identical with, the anus of the adult. As the name suggests the mouth develops secondarily. In the Protostomia (most of the rest of the Metazoa) that opening becomes the mouth wih the anus developing secondarily. Similarly, the nervous system of all embryos develops from the ectoderm of the embryo by a process of infolding. In all vertebrate embryos the liver arises as an outgrowth of the embryonic gut as do the lungs. There are many other similaities in the development of embryos and the features of the adults they eventually become. Just because Ernst Haeckel, in his Darwinian enthusiasm, presented some rather idealized diagrams is no reason to dismiss him out of hand. He was a darn good zoologist and a fabulous artist and naturalist who just got a little carried away. So did August Weismann. Someone once wisely said that Weismann was more Darwinian than Darwin and Darwin was more Lamarckian than Lamarck.

One thing that Lamarck said about the origin of new structures impresses me and may have a kernel of truth in it. He said they originated as a result of what he called an “inner urge.” Urges come from within. As far as I am concerned so did everything else.

How do you hide-bound, myopic Darwimpian mystics out there in never-never land like those departures from the “one true faith,” the most infantile, over tested, under verified hypothesis in the history of science? I hope they tie you up for a week. Relax with the Exlax.

Happy Birhday Charlie baby.

I love it so!

By: Red Reader

Red Reader — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:30:03 +0000

More great Evolutionary Rock available on Itunes….

“Can’t Get No Re-pli-ca-tion” (Rolling Stones)
“Can’t Buy Me Lunch” (Beatles)
“Black Magic Mutant” (Santana)
“The Bridge Over Troubled Science & Theology” (Simon & Garfunkle)
“Hit Me With Your Random Shot” (Pat Benatar)
“Bad To The DNA” – (Goerge Thorogood & The Destroyers)
“We Will Sue You” (Queen)
“Hocus Pocus Crocas Locus” (Focus)
“American Dogmatist” (The Guess Who)
“Aquatic Lung Development” (Jethro Tull)

By: JoshG

JoshG — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:08:37 +0000

Awesome!