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Evolutionary Informatics Media Coverage: Baylor, Robert Marks, and the EvoInfo Lab

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Media attention continues to focus on the Baylor administration’s censoring of Prof. Robert Marks’s Evolutionary Informatics Lab (now on a third-party server at www.EvoInfo.org). With the coming to campus of a crew from Ben Stein for his forthcoming movie/documentary EXPELLED: NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED, things have ramped up further.

Baylor President John Lilley continues to dig in his heels, refusing to let the Evolutionary Informatics Lab back on campus. Baylor is simply playing a waiting game until the present wave of media interest dies down, after which the removal of Prof. Marks’s website from the Baylor server can quietly be forgotten.

In a better world, the Baylor administration would apologize to Prof. Marks and restore his site with no more restrictions than any other researcher at Baylor faces.

Baylor President John Lilley Prof. Robert J. Marks II

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[…] from his space on the Baylor server. When he refused, the Baylor administration did it for him. That unhappy episode is recounted here, and was also featured in […]Bill Dembski Interview
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[...] from his space on the Baylor server. When he refused, the Baylor administration did it for him. That sordid episode is recounted here, and was also featured in [...]William Dembski Interview
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[...] Marks (that Baylor engineering prof whose dean took his Web site off the campus server because, as his journal articles later showed, [...]Uncommon Descent | Evolutionary Informatics Lab- a look inside …
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[...] Marks (that Baylor engineering prof whose dean took his Web site off the campus server because, as his journal articles later showed, [...]God's iPod - Uncommon Descent - Intelligent Design
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[...] server. When he refused, the Baylor administration did it for him. That sordid episode is recounted here, and was also featured in [...]Uncommon Descent | Bill Dembski on the Evolutionary Informatics Lab – the one a Baylor dean tried to shut down
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[...] server. When he refused, the Baylor administration did it for him. That sordid episode is recounted here, and was also featured in [...]God's iPod - Uncommon Descent - Intelligent Design
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[...] recall, expelled Robert Marks’s Evolutionary Informatics Lab from Baylor (for that story, go here). July 24, 2008 9:57AM President of Baylor University Fired John Lilley had angered alumni, [...]Baylor President Lilley Fired | Uncommon Descent
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[...] in the upcoming Ben Stein documentary (www.expelledthemovie.com), go to my blog Uncommon Descent (https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/media-coverage-baylor-robert-marks-and-the-evoluti...). Mind you, Robert Marks’s title is Distinguished Professor of Electrical and Computer [...]An Interview with Dr. William A. Dembski : Christian News New Zealand
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[...] Tribune expressing astonishment at the sheer, manifest vulgarity of the attempt to suppress the Evolutionary Informatics Lab: As counsel for Baylor Distinguished Professor Robert J. Marks II, I was amazed and discouraged by [...]When you want the approval of people whose approval you should NOT want … | Uncommon Descent
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[...] I’m afraid in my recent efforts to throw light on the Baylor administration’s removal of Robert Marks’s Evolutionary Informatics Lab from Baylor, I succumbed to the “low polemic” that my English colleague feared. I have no regrets about alerting my contacts in the press about Baylor’s suppression of academic freedom in the Marks affair. [...]Apology to Baylor Administration and Regents | Uncommon Descent
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You will probably get around to posting this anyway, but I thought I would mention that over at Evolution News & Views they mention a new Op-Ed in the Waco-Trib that is highly critical of Baylor on this issue.13atman
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Good point Larry. I expect this will happen soon enough.William Dembski
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[...] has Started. The “Expelled” film crew visit to Baylor seems to have kicked off a second “media wave” about the Robert Marks-Evolutionary Informatics Lab issue. Besides the two stories mentioned in my [...]Second Marks-EIL Media Wave has Started. « l3rucewayne’s blog
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I'm a little dismayed that there hasn't been more national coverage of Baylor's disgraceful behavior. Most of the citations above are from the Baylor student newspaper, Discovery Institute press releases, and the local Waco newspaper. This is really disheartening. I would think that someone like Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity would be interested in covering this. Has any effort been made to contact them?larrycranston
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[...] is not due out until February 2008, and for that matter it doesn’t even seem to be done filming yet, but it is sure causing a lot of stir. Starring Ben Stein, the movie is a documentary [...]aldenswan.com » Blog Archive » More about Expelled
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[...] According to today’s Baylor Lariat (the student newspaper), the producer of the upcoming Ben Stein documentary on suppression of ID (www.expelledthemovie.com) is sending a crew to Baylor to interview President John Lilley and others regarding the removal of Robert Marks’s Evolutionary Informatics Lab from Baylor (for the background on this story, go here). These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]Uncommon Descent » "Expelled The Movie" attempts to interview Baylor President John Lilley
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If removal from the Baylor website shows university disapproval, then being allowed to remain on the Baylor website implies university approval. Larry, that's a very good point. Does the university really want to implicitly endorse every webpage a member of the faculty might put on its site? Apparently yes.tribune7
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If removal from the Baylor website shows university disapproval, then being allowed to remain on the Baylor website implies university approval. Is this implication of university approval a message that Baylor wants to convey? Also, if Baylor thinks that the name "Evolutionary Informatics Lab" sounds hokey, what about the name "Station for Experimental Evolution"?
In 1910, the Eugenics Record Office was founded in Cold Spring Harbor, New York, as a center for the study of human heredity and a repository for genetic data on human traits. It merged with the Station for Experimental Evolution in 1920 to become the Department of Genetics at the Carnegie Institution, and under the direction of Charles B. Davenport and later of Albert Blakeslee and Milislav Demerec, it became the most important center for eugenic research in the nation.
– from http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/mole/e/ero.htm William Dembski said,
As I indicated in my insertion to your comment, the work of the lab is squarely within Robert Marks’s area of expertise. Go on the IEEE website and you’ll find that evolutionary computing is an established subdiscipline of engineering.
Yes -- the IEEE Transactions series includes the following subjects: Evolutionary Computation Computational Biology and Bioinformatics -- from http://www.ieee.org/web/publications/journmag/index.html Also, the headline of the home webpage of the IEEE Computational Intelligence Society says, "mimicking nature for problem solving." See http://ieee-cis.org/ Baylor's unscholarly and anti-intellectual action appears to be an attack on the legitimacy of these IEEE activities. Why hasn't IEEE weighed in on this controversy?Larry Fafarman
September 15, 2007
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Look at the new UD post titled "Baylor Board of Regents."William Dembski
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There is a mistake on the Regent list I think; it seems that Dr. Stone's email address is attributed to Dr. Turner. Any progress on the missing addresses? I've sent an email to all the existing ones.Chemfarmer
September 14, 2007
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Yes, it may be good to point out to regents that Baylor's treatment of Prof. Marks will be featuring in EXPELLED (www.expelledthemovie.com).William Dembski
September 14, 2007
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I sent my letters as well. This kind of invite to write to relevant people about an issue seems to me like a good thing to do shortly after expelled comes out as well. I have a feeling that lots of letters will be sent at that time. This is my first comment.13atman
September 13, 2007
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Sent my email in! Everyone get in on the bandwagon!jpark320
September 13, 2007
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My understanding is that this issue is not about ID research in Baylor but about research that *might* have positive results for arguments made by ID-proponents. To my knowledge evolutionary algorithms/programming is still considered a valid research subject even among Darwinists? The questions I would ask Baylor administration are as follows: Are evolutionary programs and algorithms still valid research subjects in academia? Surely the publications done will flourish or perish on their own merit no matter who has done them?Innerbling
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Prof Dembski: I'll admit I am wrong when I learn that his papers have been published. But I was expecting the shoe to drop in some fashion, and it has. Disproving evolution would upset a large, prestigious, academic enterprise. I wouldn't be surprised if Mark's papers were discussed as high up as the NAS. Who else could pressure the president of Baylor to act against everything that Baylor stands for?Peter
September 12, 2007
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RE: Peter: ----------------- I noticed that the research papers had been submitted to peer review a while ago. ----------------- I might have missed this. Please enlighten me and others as to which paper(s) was/were submitted for peer review and in which journal. We' also be interested in the results (if any) of the peer review ( e.g. comments from the reviewers ). Thanks much.SeekAndFind
September 12, 2007
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Peter: I think you are being a bit too conspiratorial. This is mainly about Baylor's public perception and Baylor's ability to attract funding -- they see any too visible ID initiative as making them look bad. Given how ID is perceived in academic culture, they may be right. But it still doesn't justify their gross violation of academic freedom.William Dembski
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