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		<title>By: John Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respond to post 18 as follows. God or Gods has or have no future plans as evolution is finished and has been for a very longe time. The plan has been realized and from here on in it is all down hill. I hope that answers your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respond to post 18 as follows. God or Gods has or have no future plans as evolution is finished and has been for a very longe time. The plan has been realized and from here on in it is all down hill. I hope that answers your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 04:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also come to realize that arguing with some people on the internet is just an alternative form of masochism. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also come to realize that arguing with some people on the internet is just an alternative form of masochism. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Red Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? Oh. O.K.. 

But I like beating my head against a wall.  It feels sooooo good when I stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? Oh. O.K.. </p>
<p>But I like beating my head against a wall.  It feels sooooo good when I stop.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/judge-john-e-jones-iii-as-inquisitor/comment-page-1/#comment-22885</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red

You can stop beating your head against the brick wall named Poisson.  It&#039;s plain as day that Judge Jones made it illegal for the citizens of Dover, through their duly elected representatives on the school board, to include criticism of evolution as part of the curriculum in Dover public schools.  Poisson is no longer with us.  He/she can take the repeated denial of the plain facts of Jone&#039;s order and the &quot;pissed off&quot; attitude about the &quot;hicks in Kansas&quot; elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red</p>
<p>You can stop beating your head against the brick wall named Poisson.  It&#8217;s plain as day that Judge Jones made it illegal for the citizens of Dover, through their duly elected representatives on the school board, to include criticism of evolution as part of the curriculum in Dover public schools.  Poisson is no longer with us.  He/she can take the repeated denial of the plain facts of Jone&#8217;s order and the &#8220;pissed off&#8221; attitude about the &#8220;hicks in Kansas&#8221; elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/judge-john-e-jones-iii-as-inquisitor/comment-page-1/#comment-22881</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poison wrote:
&quot;Have you read the decision?&quot;

Yes.
http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller/kitzmiller_342.pdf

More from P.
&quot;The judge didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make it illegal to criticize evolution.&quot;

Judge Jones wrote:
...&quot;we will enter an order permanently enjoining Defendants from requiring teachers to denigrate or disparage the scientific theory of evolution....&quot;

&quot;requiring&quot; means &quot;set policy&quot;.
&quot;denigrate or disparage&quot; means &quot;criticize&quot;.

Once it becames illegal for the school board to establish a policy that includes criticism of evo, the alternative is not &quot;voluntary&quot; criticism of evo by free-thinking teachers: the only alternative is no criticism.  

Any criticim of evo is thereafter a violation of the policy and teachers who violate the policy will first be warned, then terminated.  

Termination, BTW, won&#039;t be for teaching criticsism of evo, it will be for violation of school board policy against presenting &quot;religious&quot; ideas in violation of separation of church and state.  

More explicitly...criticism of evolution is now a relgious violation.

Law, science and society is devolving to the middle ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poison wrote:<br />
&#8220;Have you read the decision?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.<br />
<a href="http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller/kitzmiller_342.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/k.....er_342.pdf</a></p>
<p>More from P.<br />
&#8220;The judge didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make it illegal to criticize evolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Judge Jones wrote:<br />
&#8230;&#8221;we will enter an order permanently enjoining Defendants from requiring teachers to denigrate or disparage the scientific theory of evolution&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;requiring&#8221; means &#8220;set policy&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;denigrate or disparage&#8221; means &#8220;criticize&#8221;.</p>
<p>Once it becames illegal for the school board to establish a policy that includes criticism of evo, the alternative is not &#8220;voluntary&#8221; criticism of evo by free-thinking teachers: the only alternative is no criticism.  </p>
<p>Any criticim of evo is thereafter a violation of the policy and teachers who violate the policy will first be warned, then terminated.  </p>
<p>Termination, BTW, won&#8217;t be for teaching criticsism of evo, it will be for violation of school board policy against presenting &#8220;religious&#8221; ideas in violation of separation of church and state.  </p>
<p>More explicitly&#8230;criticism of evolution is now a relgious violation.</p>
<p>Law, science and society is devolving to the middle ages.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poisson

I&#039;m afraid you don&#039;t fit in very well here.  It&#039;s time for you to take your rage elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poisson</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid you don&#8217;t fit in very well here.  It&#8217;s time for you to take your rage elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Poisson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poisson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Reader,

Have you read the decision ?

The judge didn&#039;t make it illegal to criticize evolution.

The judge made it illegal to force the classroom reading of a statement that directs students to the text Of Pandas and People.

In DaveScot&#039;s words, &quot;Clearly what was on trial was the book Of Pandas and People.&quot;

The judge in no way mandated that evolution be taught. Nothing in the Constitution states that evolution must be taught in High School biology in Dover, PA.

I&#039;m sorry to say, but that was the decision and you are wrong about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Reader,</p>
<p>Have you read the decision ?</p>
<p>The judge didn&#8217;t make it illegal to criticize evolution.</p>
<p>The judge made it illegal to force the classroom reading of a statement that directs students to the text Of Pandas and People.</p>
<p>In DaveScot&#8217;s words, &#8220;Clearly what was on trial was the book Of Pandas and People.&#8221;</p>
<p>The judge in no way mandated that evolution be taught. Nothing in the Constitution states that evolution must be taught in High School biology in Dover, PA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say, but that was the decision and you are wrong about this.</p>
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		<title>By: GilDodgen</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/judge-john-e-jones-iii-as-inquisitor/comment-page-1/#comment-22851</link>
		<dc:creator>GilDodgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Judge Jones is an embarrassment and deserves our sympathy. He has so overreached his authority and expertise that he has made a colossal fool of himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Judge Jones is an embarrassment and deserves our sympathy. He has so overreached his authority and expertise that he has made a colossal fool of himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poison wrote:
&quot;But the judge was not mandating THAT evolution be taught. That was my point.&quot;

Sorry Poison.  Doesn&#039;t work.  When you are blue in the face, it still doesn&#039;t work.  Several here have clearly demonstrated why it doesn&#039;t work.  

Judge Jones did in fact make ID illegal and banned the school board from so much as *criticizing* evolution.  As a result, he made evolution the state-mandated science: just like Pope Pius in Copernicus day mandated that the solar system rotated around the earth.  Same exact thing.  Same exact reasons.  Fear.

Your insistence to the contrary is a history rewrite.  *Spin*.  You are *spinnig* the facts to what you apparently hope is a less damning light.  

In the process, you are doing just what Judge Jones did--selective cognizance.

But you are fooling no one but yourself.  That&#039;s why your efforts are so pathetic.  I care about you.  I don&#039;t even know you, but that&#039;s why I tell you the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poison wrote:<br />
&#8220;But the judge was not mandating THAT evolution be taught. That was my point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry Poison.  Doesn&#8217;t work.  When you are blue in the face, it still doesn&#8217;t work.  Several here have clearly demonstrated why it doesn&#8217;t work.  </p>
<p>Judge Jones did in fact make ID illegal and banned the school board from so much as *criticizing* evolution.  As a result, he made evolution the state-mandated science: just like Pope Pius in Copernicus day mandated that the solar system rotated around the earth.  Same exact thing.  Same exact reasons.  Fear.</p>
<p>Your insistence to the contrary is a history rewrite.  *Spin*.  You are *spinnig* the facts to what you apparently hope is a less damning light.  </p>
<p>In the process, you are doing just what Judge Jones did&#8211;selective cognizance.</p>
<p>But you are fooling no one but yourself.  That&#8217;s why your efforts are so pathetic.  I care about you.  I don&#8217;t even know you, but that&#8217;s why I tell you the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: John Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaos theory sucks and I am not one little bit worried about getting in trouble with any Inquisition or any God anywhere or at anytime. A belief in a personal God is nothing but fear inspired terror that there might not be an afterlife. God almighty who would want one after tolerating this one? Not this physiologist. 

&quot;The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive.&quot;
Albert Einstein

Me too Albert

You better support the Iraq war because if we pull out they will strike us here. Personally I think Bush should be given the Nobel Peace Prize or better yet Pope Bendedict XVI should start him off on the road to Sainthood. He undoubted;y will be rememberd as one of our greatest presidents.

How does that grab you liberal left wing atheist Darwinian commie pinkos wherever you may be?

Political Liberalism and Darwinian mysticism are just two manifestations of the same genetic malaise. Amoral atheist relativists both, they were undoubtedly just &quot;born that way.&quot;

There now I feel much better. Thank you for pulling my chain. Out came my little choo choo train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaos theory sucks and I am not one little bit worried about getting in trouble with any Inquisition or any God anywhere or at anytime. A belief in a personal God is nothing but fear inspired terror that there might not be an afterlife. God almighty who would want one after tolerating this one? Not this physiologist. </p>
<p>&#8220;The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive.&#8221;<br />
Albert Einstein</p>
<p>Me too Albert</p>
<p>You better support the Iraq war because if we pull out they will strike us here. Personally I think Bush should be given the Nobel Peace Prize or better yet Pope Bendedict XVI should start him off on the road to Sainthood. He undoubted;y will be rememberd as one of our greatest presidents.</p>
<p>How does that grab you liberal left wing atheist Darwinian commie pinkos wherever you may be?</p>
<p>Political Liberalism and Darwinian mysticism are just two manifestations of the same genetic malaise. Amoral atheist relativists both, they were undoubtedly just &#8220;born that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>There now I feel much better. Thank you for pulling my chain. Out came my little choo choo train.</p>
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