Comments on: Hysteria in Iowa

By: Habitable Zone astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez denied tenure | Uncommon Descent

Thu, 31 May 2007 07:14:12 +0000

[...] Guillermo Gonzalez, Privileged Planet astronomer and longtime target of atheist materialists, has been denied tenure. Fact sheet folllows. [...]

By: Mats

Mats — Sat, 01 Oct 2005 22:57:50 +0000

“Friends, what are our opponents so worried about?”

You mean, apart from the fact that their religious system will exposed as just that ?

“All we want to do is crush Darwinian materialism and the secular ideology that has been built on it”.

Is that all ? Goodness, why didn’t you say so ?

By: DaveScot

DaveScot — Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:45:04 +0000

“I wonder if the blackboard would have enough room on it to write out all of the directions that would be required to build an organism from scratch?”

That depends. How small can you write?

In any case if someone makes a serious attempt I’m buying chalk futures…

By: Gumpngreen

Gumpngreen — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:02:50 +0000

Since naturalism implies reductionism they could always write on that blackboard the natural law that everything comes down to…that is, if they knew what it was.

By: Ochuk’s blog » Blog Archive » ISU Controversy

Ochuk’s blog » Blog Archive » ISU Controversy — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:41:07 +0000

[...] UPDATE: Dembski blogs about the latest in the Iowa saga. [...]

By: Tim Sverduk

Tim Sverduk — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:33:28 +0000

Instead of posting the petition, why dont they just post the specific, reproducible, chemical steps that would lead from non-life to an extremely simple, self-reproducing organism? Until that happens, how can anyone (scientifically) rule out ID? BTW, I wonder if the blackboard would have enough room on it to write out all of the directions that would be required to build an organism from scratch?

By: crandaddy

crandaddy — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:33:36 +0000

Bill: “Friends, what are our opponents so worried about? All we want to do is crush Darwinian materialism and the secular ideology that has been built on it.”

Precisely. We’re dealing with religious zealots here, not scientists. It’s fundamentally important that we realize this and deal with it in an appropriate manner. I like to sum this up in the three p’s: patience, persistence, and proper conduct.

David

By: mmadigan

mmadigan — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:55:36 +0000

How can the darwinites accuse I.D. of being religious when they’re the ones who always want to talk about God?

By: Teleological Blog » The Good Report of Guillermo Gonzalez, Author of The Privileged Planet

Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:36:01 +0000

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By: scordova

scordova — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:44:30 +0000

Actually, I should say Kudos to the faculty members for inviting Gonzalez!

See:http://tinyurl.com/8pub4

“Paul Shand, UNI professor of physics and president-elect of Sigma Xi, the science research society that sponsored the event, said the discussion went very well, and the goal of exchanging ideas in a civil way was accomplished.”

[a bit of humor]

Ahem, Paul, don’t you know permitting an IDist to express his view before such a distinguished group of individuals as Sigma Xi faculty members is lending ID credibility, especially will all the newspapers in Iowa wanting to report on it. Darwinists are trying to portray IDists as Flat Earther’s, and bringing out faculty members, especially under Sigma Xi sponsorship, to hear Gonzalez is not consistent with the way Darwinists wish to portray IDists.

Look at what you’ve done! Now the board of regents are inviting IDists to be treated like they’re respectable citizens in the university!

see: http://tinyurl.com/8khkd

From the article:

Iowa City Regent Robert Downer said he supports open forums on Intelligent Design. Downer said despite the scientific controversy surrounding Intelligent Design, it is a subject that deserves scrutiny.

“I do feel universities are places where all points of view should be expressed in a respectful manner as a part of the furtherance of academic inquiry and exposure of students and others to all points of view….We encourage debate. That is how students learn – through robust debate on all kinds of issues…that is what college is all about: to explore and learn. From that standpoint, the debate is wholesome and healthy.”

Salvador