Comments on: How many honorary doctorates does Judge Jones have now?

By: Mats

Mats — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:19:05 +0000

He deserves all praise bkz he has defended materialism against design. He will go down in History as the “Judge Who Changed The World”…. or.. “The Judge WHo Refused To Think About The Issues, But Instead Bought The ACLU’s Goods”

If you attack materialism, you get honorady doctorates.

If you do good science, and if you have many peer reviewed articles, plus many citations to work you, AND you believe that the universe points to some reality or Someone beyond itself, you will be denied tenure.

For anyone who thinks that there isn’t a war of worldviews going on, these 3 examples (Judge Jones, Dr Gonzalez, and Denyse’s post about the atheism of evolutionary biologists) should serve as suficient evidence for the contrary.

By: tribune7

tribune7 — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:51:00 +0000

And IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d bet you half the farm he wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have trouble getting tenure at Iowa State . . . He does have a Phd. from Cornell in Zoology and he teaches at UCLA.

There was a certain astrophysicist had a Ph.D from the University of Washington; did post-doc work at the University of Texas and the University of Washington; received fellowships, grants and awards from NASA, the University of Washington, Sigma Xi, and the National Science Foundation; and was well published in peer-reviewed journals.

He couldn’t get tenure at Iowa State University.

By: Larry Fafarman

Larry Fafarman — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:42:51 +0000

How many honorary doctorates has the Judge racked up since then? (I am told four, but I have yet to confirm that).

The only other honorary degree that I have been able to find is one from Muhlenberg College — see –

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/muhl.....grees.html

He is an alumnus of Dickinson College’s undergraduate and law schools, but apparently his only connection with Muhlenberg was that his daughter was graduating from that college at the same time that the college granted him an honorary degree.

I certainly agree that fame resulting from just a single court decision hardly merits an honorary degree.

By: Jehu

Jehu — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:04:51 +0000

And IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d bet you half the farm he wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have trouble getting tenure at Iowa State.

He does have a Phd. from Cornell in Zoology and he teaches at UCLA.

By: tribune7

tribune7 — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:18:38 +0000

Dr. Dembski — this thread is quite appropriate to the debate. I think it’s almost safe to say we won the science and now it is just a matter of politics and the press.

Consider this: Greg Graffin – a punk rock singer who founded a group called Bad Religions (note the “cross buster” logo at the link) is writing articles for American Scientist as per Denyse’s thread.

And I’d bet you half the farm he wouldn’t have trouble getting tenure at Iowa State.

By: russ

russ — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:02:07 +0000

I would say no just on the basis that he did nothing extraordinary.

I knew that no good would come of grade inflation. Now even fake degrees don’t represent the level of achievement that they used to!

By: William Dembski

William Dembski — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:59:21 +0000

Michael Tuite: I have no aspirations to be in another trial, and if I am barred from one on account of posts such as this, so be it. I regard posts such as this in a broader light than you do, seeing them as mirrors by which the culture may examine itself. Where is the honor in Jones’s honorary doctorate?

By: bornagain77

bornagain77 — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:31:18 +0000

They are just saying thanks to Judge Jones for endorsing their pre-concieved philosophical blindness of materialism. Yet one more pat on the back from the blind leaders to their faithful blind flock who have not strayed from the blind fold.

By: tribune7

tribune7 — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:41:04 +0000

But while he could prohibit Pennsylvanians from being offended he could not stop the Bad Frog steamroller I propose it as our official drink.

By: tribune7

tribune7 — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:36:04 +0000

His most momentous decision as head of the PLCB was to ban Bad Frog Beer.