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He said it: A neurosurgeon confronts the non-material nature of consciousness

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Here, at Skeptiko:

To me one thing that has emerged from my experience and from very rigorous analysis of that experience over several years, talking it over with others that I respect in neuroscience, and really trying to come up with an answer, is that consciousness outside of the brain is a fact. It’s an established fact. And of course, that was a hard place for me to get, coming from being a card-toting reductive materialist over decades. It was very difficult to get to knowing that consciousness, that there’s a soul of us that is not dependent on the brain.

- Neurosurgeon/Neuroscientist Dr. Eben Alexander in an interview regarding his NDE

Near death experiences tend to do that. And some people who think that’s all bosh would be reluctant to trust their neurosurgery to someone who really thinks that the mind is just the brain is just 2 lbs of meat. We wish him well, and hope he will find that this helps him be a better physician.

American doctors are often harangued for not believing in materialist theories. Odd then, how many people fly to the States for medical treatment.

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9 Responses to He said it: A neurosurgeon confronts the non-material nature of consciousness

  1. News, I think the link is broken.

  2. I am hungry – I am not my body – I am the observer

    I am sad – I am not my feelings – I am the observer

    I am thinking – I am not my thoughts – I am the observer

    I am deciding – I am not my will – I am the observer

    I am conscious – I am not my consciousness – I am the observer

    He who observes all that I am, is the essence of me.

  3. Yes, thanks! Now fixed. At least, we tested it here, and the new link works for us.

  4. I think this (click here) was the intended link.

  5. He has a video:

    Near Death Experience of a Neurosurgeon: – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qUGV4n23dY

    His was kind of a spooky, weird, NDE, from the ‘usual’ ones I’ve seen:

    a few more notes:

    The Scientific Evidence for Near Death Experiences – Dr Jeffery Long – Melvin Morse M.D. – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4454627

    Famous Cardiac Surgeon’s Recounts People who had dramatic Near Death Experiences while under his care
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08

    The Day I Died – Part 4 of 6 – The Extremely ‘Monitored’ Near Death Experience of Pam Reynolds – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4045560

    Evidence For Heaven – Afterlife – Near Death Experiences – video with references
    http://www.vimeo.com/20420223

    Today Show: Woman recounts life after death – 01/20/2010 – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ2tvv3mto

    In The Presence Of Almighty God – The NDE of Mickey Robinson – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4045544

    Mary Jo Rapini Sees the Light plus ABC Reporter Bob Woodruff’s out of body experience – video
    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightlin.....e-14227538

    Verse and Music:

    2 Corinthians 12:2-5
    I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago– whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows– such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man– whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows– was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. On behalf of such a man I will boast; but on my own behalf I will not boast, except in regard to my weaknesses.

    Near Death Experience (NDE) Song – The Way – Fastball
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4193448/

  6. Sheol for those who are not One in The-Son

    Sheol for those who are still One in The-Mother

    When The-Son is Born The-Mother shall die

    Paradise for those who are One in The-Son

    Paradise for those who are not One in The-Mother

    When The-Son is Born The-Mother shall die

  7. notes:

    How Did The Image Form On The Shroud? – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4045581

    “The shroud image is made from tiny fibres that are (each) 1/10th of a human hair. The picture elements are actually randomly distributed like the dots in your newspaper, photograph or magazine photograph. To do this you would need an incredibly accurate atomic laser. This technology does NOT exist (even to this day).”
    Kevin Moran – Optical Engineer

    “the closest science can come to explaining how the image of the Man in the Shroud got there is by comparing the situation to a controlled burst of high-intensity radiation similar to the Hiroshima bomb explosion which “printed” images of incinerated people on building walls.”
    Frank Tribbe – Leading Scholar And Author On Shroud Research

    Even with the advantage of all our advanced space-age technology at their fingertips, all scientists can guess is that it was some type of electro-magnetic radiation (light) which is not natural to this world. Kevin Moran, a scientist working on the mysterious ’3D’ nature of the Shroud image, states the ‘supernatural’ explanation this way:

    “It is not a continuum or spherical-front radiation that made the image, as visible or UV light. It is not the X-ray radiation that obeys the one over R squared law that we are so accustomed to in medicine. It is more unique. It is suggested that the image was formed when a high-energy particle struck the fiber and released radiation within the fiber at a speed greater that the local speed of light. Since the fiber acts as a light pipe, this energy moved out through the fiber until it encountered an optical discontinuity, then it slowed to the local speed of light and dispersed. The fact that the pixels don’t fluoresce suggests that the conversion to their now brittle dehydrated state occurred instantly and completely so no partial products remain to be activated by the ultraviolet light. This suggests a quantum event where a finite amount of energy transferred abruptly. The fact that there are images front and back suggests the radiating particles were released along the gravity vector. The radiation pressure may also help explain why the blood was “lifted cleanly” from the body as it transformed to a resurrected state.”
    http://www.shroudstory.com/natural.htm

    If scientists want to find the source for the supernatural light which made the “3D – photographic negative” image I suggest they look to the thousands of documented Near-Death Experiences (NDE’s) in Judeo-Christian cultures. It is in their testimonies that you will find mention of an indescribably bright ‘Light’ or ‘Being of Light’ who is always described as being of a much brighter intensity of light than the people had ever seen before. All people who have been in the presence of ‘The Being of Light’ while having a deep NDE have no doubt whatsoever that the ‘The Being of Light’ they were in the presence of is none other than ‘The Lord God Almighty’ of heaven and earth.

    This following video, which I’ve listed previously, and article, give some fairly deep insight into what the image formation on the Shroud signifies for us:

    The Center Of The Universe Is Life! – General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Entropy and The Shroud Of Turin – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/w/5070355

    Centrality of Each Individual Observer In The Universe and Christ’s Credible Reconciliation Of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/17SDgYPHPcrl1XX39EXhaQzk7M0zmANKdYIetpZ-WB5Y/edit?hl=en_US

    THE EVENT HORIZON (Space-Time Singularity) OF THE SHROUD OF TURIN. – Isabel Piczek – Particle Physicist
    Excerpt: We have stated before that the images on the Shroud firmly indicate the total absence of Gravity. Yet they also firmly indicate the presence of the Event Horizon. These two seemingly contradict each other and they necessitate the past presence of something more powerful than Gravity that had the capacity to solve the above paradox.
    http://shroud3d.com/findings/i.....-formation

    A Quantum Hologram of Christ’s Resurrection?
    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2008/847

    Turin Shroud Enters 3D Age – Front and Back 3-D images – articles and videos
    https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1gDY4CJkoFedewMG94gdUk1Z1jexestdy5fh87RwWAfg

    This following recent video revealed a very surprising holographic image that was found on the Shroud:

    Turin Shroud Hologram Reveals The Words ‘The Lamb’ – short video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4041205

    Sarah McLachlan – Ordinary Miracle – song
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urv7tyeJ7qE

  8. corrected link:

    Sarah McLachlan – Ordinary Miracle
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqZE4ZDnAkQ

  9. Hi News,

    Thanks for a fascinating report. Coming from a neurosurgeon, it carries special weight. What I’d like to know is how Dr. Alexander now envisages the role of the brain in consciousness. Thanks again.

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