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	<title>Comments on: Forget about Pianka &#8212; let&#8217;s go after Mims for &#8220;misleading propaganda&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is the transcript from the presentation of the same title as the one Mims is complaining about given on March 31.&lt;br /&gt;
http://seguingazette.com/story.lasso?ewcd=3817403731ee3d74&amp;page=all&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still no call for using Ebola to kill people just a warning that overpopulation makes such an event more likely. Since this speech is from before Mims started making noise about the earlier one I find no reason to believe it is substantially different than the one he gave before TAS. Especially since the two transcripts do agree in the places where both sections exist. Of course Pearcy could just release the audio file that the partial transcript derives from and let us make up our own minds.
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1007&quot;&gt;Student reviews&lt;/a&gt; of Pianka&#039;s Biology 304  class unequivocably confirm he&#039;s &quot;&lt;i&gt;preaching&lt;/i&gt; that 90% of the human population &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; die of ebola&quot; [my emphasis].   I see no reason to doubt that his classroom lecture is different from his TAS speech since the student review is essentially identical to what Mims had to say.  It isn&#039;t a warning.  It&#039;s a fervent wish. &lt;/b&gt;
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the transcript from the presentation of the same title as the one Mims is complaining about given on March 31.<br />
<a href="http://seguingazette.com/story.lasso?ewcd=3817403731ee3d74&#038;page=all" rel="nofollow">http://seguingazette.com/story.....8;page=all</a></p>
<p>Still no call for using Ebola to kill people just a warning that overpopulation makes such an event more likely. Since this speech is from before Mims started making noise about the earlier one I find no reason to believe it is substantially different than the one he gave before TAS. Especially since the two transcripts do agree in the places where both sections exist. Of course Pearcy could just release the audio file that the partial transcript derives from and let us make up our own minds.
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<p><b><a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1007">Student reviews</a> of Pianka&#8217;s Biology 304  class unequivocably confirm he&#8217;s &#8220;<i>preaching</i> that 90% of the human population <i>should</i> die of ebola&#8221; [my emphasis].   I see no reason to doubt that his classroom lecture is different from his TAS speech since the student review is essentially identical to what Mims had to say.  It isn&#8217;t a warning.  It&#8217;s a fervent wish. </b></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 04:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The transcript is now available:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.pearceyreport.com/archives/2006/04/transcript_dr_d.php&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can&#039;t seem to find where he advocates killing 90% of the human race. Looks like he is warning that overpopulation makes such a thing more likely.
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The part of the speech where he mentions ebola is missing.  He gave a 45 minute speech.  What&#039;s transcribed is about 5 minutes of it at the very end.  Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. -ds &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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<a href="http://www.pearceyreport.com/archives/2006/04/transcript_dr_d.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pearceyreport.com/a.....t_dr_d.php</a></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t seem to find where he advocates killing 90% of the human race. Looks like he is warning that overpopulation makes such a thing more likely.
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<p><b>The part of the speech where he mentions ebola is missing.  He gave a 45 minute speech.  What&#8217;s transcribed is about 5 minutes of it at the very end.  Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. -ds </b></p>
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		<title>By: crandaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>crandaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, of course!  The creationist is always the liar!  Everybody with a working brain knows that matter and energy are the only things at work in the universe and that any notion of God creating something or natural phenomena being irreducible to intelligence is total poppycock!  Everybody knows that all &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; scientists accept the irrefutable fact of materialism, and these bastions of truth and integrity surely wouldn&#039;t lie to us!  :roll:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, of course!  The creationist is always the liar!  Everybody with a working brain knows that matter and energy are the only things at work in the universe and that any notion of God creating something or natural phenomena being irreducible to intelligence is total poppycock!  Everybody knows that all <em><b>real</b></em> scientists accept the irrefutable fact of materialism, and these bastions of truth and integrity surely wouldn&#8217;t lie to us!  <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The best defense is a good offense.  Change the subject and go after Mims makes perfect strategic sense from the standpoint of the Church Burning Ebola Boys (or girls in this case).  Plus it&#039;s perfectly in line with the Five D&#039;s of Darwinism - Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge. :lol:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course that doesn&#039;t speak to the quality of the offense.  In a case of a speech where all recording devices were ordered to be turned off, where the transcript of the speech is as yet unavailable, Katy Perez wants us to believe an eyewitness to the speech is lying about what he heard.  Perez&#039; credibility is zero at this point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And let&#039;s not forget these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zo.utexas.edu/courses/bio357/357evaluations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;student reviews&lt;/a&gt; of Doomboy&#039;s UT class:&lt;/p&gt;
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I don&#039;t root for ebola, but maybe a ban on having more than one child. I agree . . . too many people ruining this planet.
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Though I agree that convervation biology is of utmost importance to the world, I do not think that preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola is the most effective means of encouraging conservation awareness. I found Pianka to be knowledgable, but spent too much time focusing on his specific research and personal views.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; seems a clear confirmation that what Mims heard in the Lamar speech after the cameras were turned off is what this student heard in Pianka&#039;s classroom at UT.  Are you ready to indict Pianka&#039;s students too, Katy Perez?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best defense is a good offense.  Change the subject and go after Mims makes perfect strategic sense from the standpoint of the Church Burning Ebola Boys (or girls in this case).  Plus it&#8217;s perfectly in line with the Five D&#8217;s of Darwinism &#8211; Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course that doesn&#8217;t speak to the quality of the offense.  In a case of a speech where all recording devices were ordered to be turned off, where the transcript of the speech is as yet unavailable, Katy Perez wants us to believe an eyewitness to the speech is lying about what he heard.  Perez&#8217; credibility is zero at this point.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget these <a href="http://www.zo.utexas.edu/courses/bio357/357evaluations.html" rel="nofollow">student reviews</a> of Doomboy&#8217;s UT class:</p>
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I don&#8217;t root for ebola, but maybe a ban on having more than one child. I agree . . . too many people ruining this planet.
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<blockquote><p>Though I agree that convervation biology is of utmost importance to the world, I do not think that preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola is the most effective means of encouraging conservation awareness. I found Pianka to be knowledgable, but spent too much time focusing on his specific research and personal views.
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<p>This: <b><i>preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola</i></b> seems a clear confirmation that what Mims heard in the Lamar speech after the cameras were turned off is what this student heard in Pianka&#8217;s classroom at UT.  Are you ready to indict Pianka&#8217;s students too, Katy Perez?</p>
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