Oh Dave Scott, where have you gone???

Dave is not the only one with the itchy trigger finger. I’ve just always been more quiet about it. I’m not going to ban Switch89 but I am going to prevent him from derailing conversations into laughable territory that wastes people’s time. Or as Denyse put it: “This site still has moderators, as it happens, and none of them fancy troll holes.” ID opponents can comment all they want as long as they keep it serious.

Switch89:

“Do you mean that anyone who is being disagreed on some point by Abby Smith is on to nothing?”

Apart from this consideration, let usa remember that M. Behe did answer to the criticism by A.S. (who seems the typical darwinist, arrogant and excessively self confident).

“And again, if you disagree with Behe, please come here and discuss. With arguments. But not on an authority basis, please. And especially, not on the basis of Nick Matzke’s authority!”

N.M. authority? ROTFL.

But let us give some indulgency to Swith89; according to the age that his nickname suggests we could reply: “you’re still young, that’s your fault, there’s so much yiu have to go through”

I agree with your views. In fact the real Catholic Church position is strongly sympathetic to ID, which is the genuine modern 5th way of Thomas Aquinas. However there is what I would instead call Galileo syndrome, the fear to be disproven in the future.
However, as a catholic, I don’t worry much about. Please let us remember that the fight between materialism and religion has been fought during the last two millennia; now we are at a in which materialism seem to be have constrained religion into a corner but things can change. In this battle ID is now what assault troops are in an army; the rest of the army will follow when the linefront has been broken.

Very true. It is a cult. Facts must be hidden and dissent must not be tolerated.

like hearing that some communist ideologue “completely destroyed” the Laffer curve (Laffer’s thesis on taxation).

Well said but Ben Stein wouldn’t let him

Something to consider would be adding a “report abuse” button. It would allow for certain posts to be flagged for the mods. It might make their jobs a little easier.

Incidentally, hearing that Abbie Smith and/or Nick Matzke “completely destroyed” Mike Behe’s thesis is like hearing that some communist ideologue “completely destroyed” the Laffer curve (Laffer’s thesis on taxation).

It tells me something about Communist ideology, nothing much about the Laffer curve.

The interesting thing about Darwinism is that it is now represented so largely by cultists who are prepared to acribe miracles – even the massive intricacy of the cell – to it.

Next thing you know he’ll be citing Talk Origins.

Oh Dave Scott, where have you gone???

“Michael Behe is on to something? Oh please. Abby Smith, a student studying HIV, called Behe on his claims that “nothing new” had evolved in HIV.”

That is simply bad and unfair. Do you mean that anyone who is being disagreed on some point by Abby Smith is on to nothing? Please check your logic, togetehr with your courtesy.

“In all his talk about evolution being a destructive process, he never addresses compensatory mutations.”

Will you please address them here? Maybe we can discuss, if that’s what you are looking for.

“And Nick Matzke completely destroyed his main thesis that “two protein-protein binding sites cannot evolve at the same time therefore evolution is wrong””

Your statement of Behe’s thought is completely inaccurate and manipulating. As you give it apparently as a citation, could you please detail where Behe wrote those words?

And again, if you disagree with Behe, please come here and discuss. With arguments. But not on an authority basis, please. And especially, not on the basis of Nick Matzke’s authority!