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		<title>By: utidjian</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/expelled-opening-weekend-37-million/comment-page-1/#comment-252123</link>
		<dc:creator>utidjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLH,

Try looking at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&amp;id=expelled.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the daily breakdown&lt;/a&gt; which paints a different picture. The $3,153,000 figure appears to be an &lt;i&gt;estimate&lt;/i&gt; for the entire weekend (Fri-Sun) inclusive.
Naturally this is ONLY an estimate. We just won&#039;t know until sometime on Monday.

I think it will be more interesting to see how it plays out over the month. Even more so over the next year or so when it goes to DVD sales.

I am also somewhat skeptical of the $3.5M &quot;cost of production&quot;. As far as I know there is no &quot;official&quot; figure (from the producers) of the cost yet. Then there is the marketing cost (advertising, promos, pre-screenings, etc...). The marketing costs may have exceeded the production costs several fold.

Just have to wait and see... something about counting chickens I think.

-DU-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLH,</p>
<p>Try looking at <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&amp;id=expelled.htm" rel="nofollow">the daily breakdown</a> which paints a different picture. The $3,153,000 figure appears to be an <i>estimate</i> for the entire weekend (Fri-Sun) inclusive.<br />
Naturally this is ONLY an estimate. We just won&#8217;t know until sometime on Monday.</p>
<p>I think it will be more interesting to see how it plays out over the month. Even more so over the next year or so when it goes to DVD sales.</p>
<p>I am also somewhat skeptical of the $3.5M &#8220;cost of production&#8221;. As far as I know there is no &#8220;official&#8221; figure (from the producers) of the cost yet. Then there is the marketing cost (advertising, promos, pre-screenings, etc&#8230;). The marketing costs may have exceeded the production costs several fold.</p>
<p>Just have to wait and see&#8230; something about counting chickens I think.</p>
<p>-DU-</p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evo_materialist
That was the point - that &quot;Flock of Dodos&quot; never made it into commercial theaters.

The weekend is not yet over. Try $3,153,000 over 2 days instead of 3 days, to give $1499/theater/day.
If the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxofficemojo.com/about/adjuster.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;average 2008 movie ticket price is $6.82, &lt;/a&gt; attendance would be running 220 per day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evo_materialist<br />
That was the point &#8211; that &#8220;Flock of Dodos&#8221; never made it into commercial theaters.</p>
<p>The weekend is not yet over. Try $3,153,000 over 2 days instead of 3 days, to give $1499/theater/day.<br />
If the <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/about/adjuster.htm" rel="nofollow">average 2008 movie ticket price is $6.82, </a> attendance would be running 220 per day.</p>
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		<title>By: evo_materialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>evo_materialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveScot, 
DaveScot, 

Flock of Dodos did not have a general release; it only played film festivals, so there&#039;s no comparison.  A better comparison would be to some documentary with a comparable number of theatres.  

Back of the envelope calculation: If Expelled made $3.7 million and opened in 1052 theatres on the first weekend, I get about 56 people per showing. (3.7 million/1052 theatres/3 nights/$7 ticket/3 showings a day).  

EM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveScot,<br />
DaveScot, </p>
<p>Flock of Dodos did not have a general release; it only played film festivals, so there&#8217;s no comparison.  A better comparison would be to some documentary with a comparable number of theatres.  </p>
<p>Back of the envelope calculation: If Expelled made $3.7 million and opened in 1052 theatres on the first weekend, I get about 56 people per showing. (3.7 million/1052 theatres/3 nights/$7 ticket/3 showings a day).  </p>
<p>EM</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typically, lifetime box office receipts are 10 times the opening weekend receipts.

I have no idea what it will earn from cable and broadcast (HBO/FOX perhaps), DVD sales, and branded memorabilia.

It certainly looks like the cost will be recouped many times over before all is said and done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically, lifetime box office receipts are 10 times the opening weekend receipts.</p>
<p>I have no idea what it will earn from cable and broadcast (HBO/FOX perhaps), DVD sales, and branded memorabilia.</p>
<p>It certainly looks like the cost will be recouped many times over before all is said and done.</p>
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		<title>By: DLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mathstudent
Suggest you take some economics.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=expelled.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Expelled&lt;/a&gt;  at Box Office Mojo
Apr. 18, 2008: $1,200,000
Total as of Apr. 20, 2008: $3,153,000 (without Apr 20?)
Suggests Apr 19 take was $1,953,000.

&lt;a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed#Box_office&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia suggests the budget for Expelled&lt;/a&gt; was $3.5 million. 

They will probably break even by the end of this opening weekend. That is a &quot;success&quot; in Hollywood where a substantial portion of films to not recover their production costs.

By the way, Expelled&#039;s opening in 1052 theaters is the highest of any documentary.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Expelled is currently 4th &lt;/a&gt; highest grossing among opening movies, 5th highest in revenues/theater in opening movies, and 9th among all movies showing on the weekend box office for April 18-20.

{PS If you seriously want to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.expelledthemovie.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Expelled&quot; &lt;/a&gt;try supporting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.designinference.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dembski&#039;s mathematical papers &lt;/a&gt; undergirding ID to Darwinian evolutionary professors.}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mathstudent<br />
Suggest you take some economics.<br />
<a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=expelled.htm" rel="nofollow">Expelled</a>  at Box Office Mojo<br />
Apr. 18, 2008: $1,200,000<br />
Total as of Apr. 20, 2008: $3,153,000 (without Apr 20?)<br />
Suggests Apr 19 take was $1,953,000.</p>
<p><a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed#Box_office" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia suggests the budget for Expelled</a> was $3.5 million. </p>
<p>They will probably break even by the end of this opening weekend. That is a &#8220;success&#8221; in Hollywood where a substantial portion of films to not recover their production costs.</p>
<p>By the way, Expelled&#8217;s opening in 1052 theaters is the highest of any documentary.<br />
<a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/" rel="nofollow">Expelled is currently 4th </a> highest grossing among opening movies, 5th highest in revenues/theater in opening movies, and 9th among all movies showing on the weekend box office for April 18-20.</p>
<p>{PS If you seriously want to be <a href="http://www.expelledthemovie.com" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Expelled&#8221; </a>try supporting <a href="http://www.designinference.com" rel="nofollow">Dembski&#8217;s mathematical papers </a> undergirding ID to Darwinian evolutionary professors.}</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Expelled: $3.7</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Expelled: $3.7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Apollos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apollos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chill out MS, I&#039;ve about half-a-dozen comments in the spam filter too. It&#039;s not a conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chill out MS, I&#8217;ve about half-a-dozen comments in the spam filter too. It&#8217;s not a conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherSaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristopherSaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mathis said they would consider the opening weekend successful if the movie sold 2 million tickets, earning $12-15 million.&quot;

Exactly - $3.7 million is BAD.

&quot;But overall, the movie has already pulling in a profit since it cost $3.5 million to make. Over it’s full run and including DVD sales, how much do you think it will make?&quot;

No, not all the money goes to the study...

The TOTAL cost is much higher than $3.5 milion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mathis said they would consider the opening weekend successful if the movie sold 2 million tickets, earning $12-15 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly &#8211; $3.7 million is BAD.</p>
<p>&#8220;But overall, the movie has already pulling in a profit since it cost $3.5 million to make. Over it’s full run and including DVD sales, how much do you think it will make?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, not all the money goes to the study&#8230;</p>
<p>The TOTAL cost is much higher than $3.5 milion.</p>
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		<title>By: mathstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t show up for moderation.  Apparently I&#039;ve been EXPELLED from this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t show up for moderation.  Apparently I&#8217;ve been EXPELLED from this site.</p>
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		<title>By: mathstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mathis said they would consider the opening weekend successful if the movie sold 2 million tickets, earning $12-15 million.

Does this mean the movie wasn&#039;t a success?  Also, how much of the $3.7 million is actually profit after they pay back the Christian schools and churches for bringing in their students?

But overall, the movie has already pulling in a profit since it cost $3.5 million to make.  Over it&#039;s full run and including DVD sales, how much do you think it will make?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathis said they would consider the opening weekend successful if the movie sold 2 million tickets, earning $12-15 million.</p>
<p>Does this mean the movie wasn&#8217;t a success?  Also, how much of the $3.7 million is actually profit after they pay back the Christian schools and churches for bringing in their students?</p>
<p>But overall, the movie has already pulling in a profit since it cost $3.5 million to make.  Over it&#8217;s full run and including DVD sales, how much do you think it will make?</p>
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