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EXPELLED Controversy Top Issue in Blogosphere

SANTA FE, N.M.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Something amazing happened yesterday. The controversy around Premise Media’s upcoming movie Ben Stein’s EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed became the hottest topic in the blogosphere. According to BlogPulse, a service of Nielsen Buzzmetrics, the issue held the number one slot throughout the day on Monday, March 24th (http://www.blogpulse.com). There were also over 800 results on Technorati (www.technorati.com).

“It is amazing to see the reaction of PZ Myers, Richard Dawkins and their cohorts when one of them is simply expelled from a movie. Yet these men applaud when professors throughout the nation are fired from their jobs and permanently excluded from their profession for mentioning Intelligent Design,” said producer Mark Mathis. Mathis was at the event that has raised this controversy.

Mathis continued, “I hope PZ’s experience has helped him see the light. He is distraught because he could not see a movie. What if he wasn’t allowed to teach on a college campus or was denied tenure? Maybe he will think twice before he starts demanding more professors be blacklisted and expelled simply because they question the adequacy of Darwin’s theory.”

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Over at Riddles, Timothy wrote a nice blog: Blog Duel! Chess with Pigeons. Expelled illustrating recent evolander sophistry.William Wallace
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Any word on a UK release? (I asked this before ages ago but no-one knew).mattghg
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"Knowledge of convergent evolution is widespread. The notion made its way into American pop culture at least as early as the days of the Star Trek television series." Turner Coates you may enjoy Michael Denton's NATURE'S DESTINY.PannenbergOmega
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DLH: How many of the "expelled stein" links trace back to topics other than the "Incident"? The top hit deals directly with it, as do a large of number of links. In fact a majority of the links I've looked over thus far deal with the Myers thing. You should also take account of the fact that there is significant overlap between the two sets of pages. Plus, a boolean search on "expelled AND stein NOT myers" turns up 1364 results, which is odd considering that that presumably would exclude the ~700 of 1581 mentioning Myers (I'm being deliberately here). Obviously, blogpulse is not a reliable source of statistical data when you just plug search terms into it without taking account of how their database is structured or what search algorithms they're using. A good example of Twain's take on statistics. Oh, and even excluding Myers while including Stein, you still end up with a bunch of links about the Myers incident. Go figure.thauma
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Then again, Mr.alan, the warped logic of darwinism is powerful enough to sway the naive into believing that if something shares a common feature with something else, then both had to have originated from the same source. Maybe we shouldn't be hard on those who are victims of such dangerous delusions.JPCollado
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Blogpulse for Expelled stein"lists 1581 messages, about twice yesterday. and Blogpulse for expelled myers has 699 messages.DLH
March 26, 2008
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The Expelled buzz is spreading into more mainstream. Unfortunately Christianity Today's fact checkers were out to lunch or have swallowed atheistic Darwinism hook line and sinker - equating intelligent design with creationism, and claiming that the Forida Academic Freedom Act mandates creationism. Let alone parroting Myers being expelled after "legitimately signed up for the event" rather than gatecrashing an RSVP private screening. REEL NEWS, Expelled Expels Darwinist It made it into MideastYouth Expelling the Intelligent from the ‘Expelled’, though he can't distinguish ID from creationism, and his article fails basic logic, claiming that 700 skeptical of Darwinism means that they are creationists, and that 99.9999% etc support evolution.DLH
March 26, 2008
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Freudian slip @ #28?JPCollado
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D.A. - common now - ANY similarity would obviously be by chance.alan
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You say Myers now admits that the Expelled Cell animation was not a rip off of Harvard’s original, but that plagiarism still remains a possibility and which can be definitively determined in due course? Design detection anyone!D.A.Newton
March 26, 2008
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Did anyone thought about tables turning around? Thinking and academically free ppl are gathering around their own table, and Darwinists left with their empty table full of fairy-tales are being ignored and expelled from Intelligent discussions as they are emptyhanded to bring anything usefull to such table. And here comes the most paradoxical thing. Atheists are not afraid so much about caring Universe. Mostly they are terified, that the Universe can run without them and they are not necessary part of this Universe. Atheists are afraid and terified to be needful only for themselves!Shazard
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It is grand that this film is starting to get some attention. All publicity is good publicity when you are this close to the release date. Tell all of your friends- call local radio stations- blog about it... anything you can do because the truth is on our side. We only need to make sure people get a chance to hear about it.Frost122585
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Reading the previous posts, and as an uncommitted observer, I am truely amazed that my own impressions, which made me think that the behaviour of the gatecrashers was childish, is being recognised and acknowledged here.Mathsteach2
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DLH, they never said it definitely was the Harvard video, but that they suspected it might be. The suspicion turned out to be incorrect, and Myers said so. There is however still an issue over whether the Expelled animation is plagiarism or not, but that will have to be resolved by detailed comparison of the footage in Expelled with that from Harvard. That is in fact more or less the thrust of the "admission" from Myers.thauma
March 25, 2008
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Re DLH @ 7PZ Myers now admits: I was wrong -- [Expelled's cell animation] is not the Harvard multimedia video. Its an independently generated copy.DLH
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Myers and Dawkins seem completely tone deaf to the politics of evolution/ID. It can't be that they want to lose the PR war. I wonder if they spend too much time listening to their own admirers to realize that their views and pronouncements are repulsive to a great many people.russ
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Borne wrote:
Needless to say that both Dawkins and PZ have displayed extremely unintelligent design in their childish “offended bully” reactions. Poor little sucks. The bullies can give it out but they can’t take it at all.
The biggest bullies in my toddler's gym class are also the biggest crybabies when they get bumped or thwarted. I had never considered that this behavior pattern might carry into adulthood.russ
March 25, 2008
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Share this with your friends and family, I did. Let's see how many people we can get to sign it. http://www.academicfreedompetition.com/PannenbergOmega
March 25, 2008
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Heh hehmike1962
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Borne, are you just catching on to how Darwinists behave?PannenbergOmega
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Lutepisc: Poachy, do you suppose this whole event was planned by Mathis…or did he just happen to bungle into it? I have no idea what really happened and I don't really care. This whole thing is funny in the extreme. It is great that the IDers can stay on message while the Darwinists are acting like crabs in a barrel. I said it before and I'll say it again , they really need a big top strategy of their own.poachy
March 25, 2008
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Either Dr. Meyers knows exactly what he is doing or he is an evolutionary stone in the Darwinists' boots. He is either a marketing genius or is patently ignorant of finesse. The few militant acquaintances he entertains will believe what he says in spite of evidence to the contrary. It strikes a familiar chord. This is the man who summons "steel-toed boots."toc
March 25, 2008
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Needless to say that both Dawkins and PZ have displayed extremely unintelligent design in their childish "offended bully" reactions. Poor little sucks. The bullies can give it out but they can't take it at all. What despicable examples. They are a shame to the whole sci-community including all "normal" Darwinists.Borne
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On Expelled's blog: "Richard Dawkins (aka “Clint”): The globe’s leading Big Science atheist is ‘shocked! Shocked!’shook up."DLH
March 25, 2008
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Mathis said: Maybe he [Myers] will think twice before he starts demanding more professors be blacklisted and expelled simply because they question the adequacy of Darwin’s theory. I wouldn't hold my breath...vesler
March 25, 2008
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William Wallace (10): There's no such thing as bad publicity, is there? Dawkins and Myers may regard you as IDiots, but they're proving themselves idiots.Turner Coates
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Free publicity thanks to PZ's gaming the RSVP system, getting caught, and then complaining about it. PZ might be on Expelled's side after all.William Wallace
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This is just awesome...what timing! The internet is just buzzing!FtK
March 25, 2008
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ThinkerHA is posting multiple vids YouTube justifying Dawkins and PZ Myers. e.g., overdubbing text with Dawkins explaining away religion. Perhaps Stein could post his counter vid on YouTube.DLH
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Dawkins and PZ Myers justifying PZ Myers being "expelled" rather than "gatecrashing" at YouTube. Film critic Dawkins expounds on how not to make a documentary. They accuse Premise of overdubbing and using the "same" copyrighted XVIVO Harvard multimedia animation, as used by Dembski the "notorious creationist".DLH
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