Any discussion of ID there is immediately taken over by Pim van Meurs whose main forte seems to be the monitoring of the infinite number of monkeys and then republishing what he finds.

Yeah. LOLOLOL

They do occasionally make a good point thought (american jesus springs to mind here) and I think they write good tunes even if the lyrics are rubbish and naive.

“Cuz I’m a 21st century digital boy
I don’t know how to live but I’ve got a lot of toys
My daddy’s a lazy middle class intellectual
My mommy’s on valium, so ineffectual
Ain’t life a mystery? ”

Ya dude! Down with the middle class!

Here is another brilliant bit of verse from Bad Religion,

modern man, evelotionary betrayer,
modern man, ecosystem destroyer,
modern man, destroy yourself in shame,
modern man, pathetic example of earth’s organic heritage,

I can see Al Gore holding up his bic lighter right now.

I will spare you the lyrics to “Kyoto Now!”

What they endeavor to show is that, even if you accept the very “data” that atheist materialists cite (evolution in general, common descent, RNA world origin of life), you don’t end up with either atheism or materialism by necessity. The scales don’t even tip in that direction. What does tip is the attitude of the media and the university culture in general, both of which have a thing for stating opinion with decisive authority.

Regardless of what their attitudes are towards ID, I think they do ID proponents a favor by arguing against the idea that the data speaks against a Creator/creators in any ultimate sense. Even setting Intelligent Design aside, the idea that common descent is a mark against an intentional creation is laughably weak.

I wonder how they counted someone an “eminent evolutionist” ?

You need wonder no more: it’s explained in the article. If you want more detail, contact Graffin, who carried out the survey.

Bob

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