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	<title>Comments on: Eric Pianka: The Department of Homeland Security needs to interview you</title>
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		<title>By: minerva</title>
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		<dc:creator>minerva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to state the obvious, but you&#039;re kind of a polemic jerk. I just got through reading Sahotra Sarkar&#039;s criticism of your theories in his book, &quot;Doubting Darwin?&quot;, and I almost felt he was being too harsh. But then I realized what an unpleasant fellow you are, and realize that you might have deserved it. By the way, the UofC says hello...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to state the obvious, but you&#8217;re kind of a polemic jerk. I just got through reading Sahotra Sarkar&#8217;s criticism of your theories in his book, &#8220;Doubting Darwin?&#8221;, and I almost felt he was being too harsh. But then I realized what an unpleasant fellow you are, and realize that you might have deserved it. By the way, the UofC says hello&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: awanabug</title>
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		<dc:creator>awanabug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I go along with much of what is said here, I think Dr. Pianka&#039;s views have been badly distorted.  I first met him back when he was a grad student, and in the mid 1960s he pretty much had the same ideas.  Although as a man, he does not like the thought of it, he believes it is inevitable...  

That thought being, man is an organism.  As such, like any other organism, when man reaches excessive population levels, another organism will inevitably cause a crash in population by using man as its food supply.  Man, however is increasingly capable of responding to such crashes, and as a result, stretches the &quot;bubble&quot; ever thinner so that when the crash does come, it will be ever more catastrophic.  Dr. Pianka has a web site that does a much better job of explaining it than I did.  

If one is to disagree with something, one should first have all of the facts and have them correct, and second, not read into them more than what is really there.  He is not a terrorist, quite the contrary.  He is a quiet and gentle person who sees things from a population ecology perspective and articulates them in his own way. 

My personal belief is that man&#039;s overpopulation problem will be solved at Armageddon, not a catastrophic disease, and since Dr Pianka is not of the same persuasion as I am on Biblical matters, we differ, but that is another topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I go along with much of what is said here, I think Dr. Pianka&#8217;s views have been badly distorted.  I first met him back when he was a grad student, and in the mid 1960s he pretty much had the same ideas.  Although as a man, he does not like the thought of it, he believes it is inevitable&#8230;  </p>
<p>That thought being, man is an organism.  As such, like any other organism, when man reaches excessive population levels, another organism will inevitably cause a crash in population by using man as its food supply.  Man, however is increasingly capable of responding to such crashes, and as a result, stretches the &#8220;bubble&#8221; ever thinner so that when the crash does come, it will be ever more catastrophic.  Dr. Pianka has a web site that does a much better job of explaining it than I did.  </p>
<p>If one is to disagree with something, one should first have all of the facts and have them correct, and second, not read into them more than what is really there.  He is not a terrorist, quite the contrary.  He is a quiet and gentle person who sees things from a population ecology perspective and articulates them in his own way. </p>
<p>My personal belief is that man&#8217;s overpopulation problem will be solved at Armageddon, not a catastrophic disease, and since Dr Pianka is not of the same persuasion as I am on Biblical matters, we differ, but that is another topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Improved symbol for the Clergy Letter Project &#124; Uncommon Descent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Improved symbol for the Clergy Letter Project &#124; Uncommon Descent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [The picture kinda reminds me of Eric &#8220;Ebola Boy&#8221; Pianka showing skulls as he publicly expressed his delight at the prospects of humanity being exterminated.] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crandaddy- some call it the NWO (&lt;b&gt;N&lt;/b&gt;ew &lt;b&gt;W&lt;/b&gt;orld &lt;b&gt;O&lt;/b&gt;rder). My suggestion is to &quot;become&quot; a member of a top secret society (skull &amp; bones)- or get the heck &quot;out-of-dodge&quot;.

I take a different view of Pianka- one that the avian flu, SARS, AIDS, Ebola X, etc., conjure year after year. He is just being honest about it. 

&quot;Germs&quot; can travel and spread much faster today &lt;b&gt;and thanks to the failure neo-Darwinism has afforded biology&lt;/b&gt;, we just cannot deal with an outbreak. Only those already resistant (or isolated) will survive.

Back in my &quot;Christian&quot; years I used to walk around wondering- &quot;Well it was water last time and that was said to be it for that mechanism. So what will it be next? Go out with the bang of an asteroid impact? Or the whimper of an epidemic (think of the martians in &quot;War of the Worlds&quot;)? I even wrote a paper on that topic (massive culling of populations) in one of my English Comp courses.

I think Pianka is just saying we are ripe for destruction and it is of our own doing. If we don&#039;t do something now it may be too late- he is using &quot;shock tactics&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crandaddy- some call it the NWO (<b>N</b>ew <b>W</b>orld <b>O</b>rder). My suggestion is to &#8220;become&#8221; a member of a top secret society (skull &amp; bones)- or get the heck &#8220;out-of-dodge&#8221;.</p>
<p>I take a different view of Pianka- one that the avian flu, SARS, AIDS, Ebola X, etc., conjure year after year. He is just being honest about it. </p>
<p>&#8220;Germs&#8221; can travel and spread much faster today <b>and thanks to the failure neo-Darwinism has afforded biology</b>, we just cannot deal with an outbreak. Only those already resistant (or isolated) will survive.</p>
<p>Back in my &#8220;Christian&#8221; years I used to walk around wondering- &#8220;Well it was water last time and that was said to be it for that mechanism. So what will it be next? Go out with the bang of an asteroid impact? Or the whimper of an epidemic (think of the martians in &#8220;War of the Worlds&#8221;)? I even wrote a paper on that topic (massive culling of populations) in one of my English Comp courses.</p>
<p>I think Pianka is just saying we are ripe for destruction and it is of our own doing. If we don&#8217;t do something now it may be too late- he is using &#8220;shock tactics&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: AnalPhilosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnalPhilosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;UT-Austin&#039;s Moonbats&lt;/strong&gt;

What is it with The University of Texas at Austin?  Every university has its imbeciles, but UT-Austin seems to have more than its share.  You know about Brian Leiter, the academic thug.  You may have heard of Robert Jensen, Ameri...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UT-Austin&#8217;s Moonbats</strong></p>
<p>What is it with The University of Texas at Austin?  Every university has its imbeciles, but UT-Austin seems to have more than its share.  You know about Brian Leiter, the academic thug.  You may have heard of Robert Jensen, Ameri&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pharyngula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pharyngula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Texas Academy of Science getting death threats over Pianka&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Pianka situation is getting very, very ugly. I&#039;ve been chatting with a member of the Texas Academy of Science, and people there are getting death threats over it. Here&#039;s one example of the kind of email they&#039;re getting:...
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;b&gt;PZ is just jealous that another biologist, an overnight sensation no less, got a more militant reputation than Meyers&#039; own.  Evidently Church Burning isn&#039;t good enough anymore.  Should we change their affectionate nick from &lt;i&gt;Church Burners&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;Earth Scorchers&lt;/i&gt; in honor of Dr. &quot;Doom&quot; Pianka? -ds &lt;/b&gt;
 
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<p>The Pianka situation is getting very, very ugly. I&#8217;ve been chatting with a member of the Texas Academy of Science, and people there are getting death threats over it. Here&#8217;s one example of the kind of email they&#8217;re getting:&#8230;
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<p><b>PZ is just jealous that another biologist, an overnight sensation no less, got a more militant reputation than Meyers&#8217; own.  Evidently Church Burning isn&#8217;t good enough anymore.  Should we change their affectionate nick from <i>Church Burners</i> to <i>Earth Scorchers</i> in honor of Dr. &#8220;Doom&#8221; Pianka? -ds </b></p>
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		<title>By: tb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the population problem: Alot of space if being freed here in a few decades (germany that is). Our population is getting older and older and soon Germans will be extinct. The CIA factbook pretty much shows this statistically. The median age will become older and older, and there are only 1.39 babies born per woman and almost 20% of our population is older than 65. Now I guess in about 150 years Indians, Chinese, and Pakis will populate Europe since it looks quite similar in all European countries. A population collapse is inevitable, at least in Germany (if nothing changes). 

So please Dr. Adolf Pianka spare us with your Ebola viruses and let us die in peace, we are doing everything we can for it.

Facts for Germany:

Age structure:
	
0-14 years: 14.4% (male 6,078,885/female 5,766,065)
15-64 years: 66.7% (male 28,006,268/female 27,003,958)
65 years and over: 18.9% (male 6,359,776/female 9,216,438) (2005 est.)

Median age:
	
total: 42.16 years
male: 40.88 years
female: 43.53 years (2005 est.)

Population growth rate:
	
[B]0%[/B] (2005 est.)

Birth rate:
	
8.33 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)

Death rate:
	
10.55 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)

Net migration rate:
	
2.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)

Total fertility rate:
	
1.39 children born/woman (2005 est.)

Source CIA factbook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the population problem: Alot of space if being freed here in a few decades (germany that is). Our population is getting older and older and soon Germans will be extinct. The CIA factbook pretty much shows this statistically. The median age will become older and older, and there are only 1.39 babies born per woman and almost 20% of our population is older than 65. Now I guess in about 150 years Indians, Chinese, and Pakis will populate Europe since it looks quite similar in all European countries. A population collapse is inevitable, at least in Germany (if nothing changes). </p>
<p>So please Dr. Adolf Pianka spare us with your Ebola viruses and let us die in peace, we are doing everything we can for it.</p>
<p>Facts for Germany:</p>
<p>Age structure:</p>
<p>0-14 years: 14.4% (male 6,078,885/female 5,766,065)<br />
15-64 years: 66.7% (male 28,006,268/female 27,003,958)<br />
65 years and over: 18.9% (male 6,359,776/female 9,216,438) (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Median age:</p>
<p>total: 42.16 years<br />
male: 40.88 years<br />
female: 43.53 years (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Population growth rate:</p>
<p>[B]0%[/B] (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Birth rate:</p>
<p>8.33 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Death rate:</p>
<p>10.55 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Net migration rate:</p>
<p>2.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Total fertility rate:</p>
<p>1.39 children born/woman (2005 est.)</p>
<p>Source CIA factbook</p>
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		<title>By: jasonng</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 07:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I find it interesting that in the 20th century the most radically secular nations in history killed millions in the name of some form of saving the world. I fear that if this isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t stopped there wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be anybody left to kill by the end of the 21st.&quot;

According to the secular propaganda by my supposedly centre-right local newspaper, the more secular nations tend to have less crime and other societal problems. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find it interesting that in the 20th century the most radically secular nations in history killed millions in the name of some form of saving the world. I fear that if this isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t stopped there wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be anybody left to kill by the end of the 21st.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the secular propaganda by my supposedly centre-right local newspaper, the more secular nations tend to have less crime and other societal problems. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GilDodgen</title>
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		<dc:creator>GilDodgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One UT official said Pianka is likely well within his rights as a tenured educator.&quot;

So get this: Pianka got tenure, but Beckwith did not (at Baylor no less, the largest Baptist university in the nation).

Kathy preempted me on the following, but it&#039;s worth reiterating:

&quot; &#039;It&#039;s important for students to get all opinions, and they have to do that on a daily basis,&#039; he [Robert K. Jansen, chair of the section of integrated biology] said.&quot;

So why must ID proponents hide in the shadows of academia, for fear that challenging Darwinism could result in the destruction of their lives and careers?

All of this reveals something very telling: Academia in the U.S. -- outside of the hard sciences like mathematics, physics, chemistry, and engineering -- is in a state of complete intellectual and moral meltdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One UT official said Pianka is likely well within his rights as a tenured educator.&#8221;</p>
<p>So get this: Pianka got tenure, but Beckwith did not (at Baylor no less, the largest Baptist university in the nation).</p>
<p>Kathy preempted me on the following, but it&#8217;s worth reiterating:</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8216;It&#8217;s important for students to get all opinions, and they have to do that on a daily basis,&#8217; he [Robert K. Jansen, chair of the section of integrated biology] said.&#8221;</p>
<p>So why must ID proponents hide in the shadows of academia, for fear that challenging Darwinism could result in the destruction of their lives and careers?</p>
<p>All of this reveals something very telling: Academia in the U.S. &#8212; outside of the hard sciences like mathematics, physics, chemistry, and engineering &#8212; is in a state of complete intellectual and moral meltdown.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This professor is a perfect illustration of how the value of a college education is declining even as the cost goes up.</description>
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