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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190944</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ck1

&lt;i&gt;I did not RSVP to any invitation.&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly.  You RSVPed but didn&#039;t get an invitation.  You don&#039;t know that an RSVP is a response to an invitation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ck1</p>
<p><i>I did not RSVP to any invitation.</i></p>
<p>Exactly.  You RSVPed but didn&#8217;t get an invitation.  You don&#8217;t know that an RSVP is a response to an invitation?</p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190937</link>
		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ck1 @ 90:
&lt;b&gt;&quot;That screening seems to have been cancelled.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;


Hello there Ms.Ck1.  Please meet Mr.Nochange who happens to be from your area (I think).  Both of you seemed to have had the same problem with the April 1 screening that you now say was cancelled.  Can you explain to Mr.Nochange that if a screening for a particular city and/or date is cancelled that this then would necessitate a change in the website as well?  Mr.Nochange is under the impression that the producers are acting maliciously for reasons that don&#039;t appear to be clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ck1 @ 90:<br />
<b>&#8220;That screening seems to have been cancelled.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Hello there Ms.Ck1.  Please meet Mr.Nochange who happens to be from your area (I think).  Both of you seemed to have had the same problem with the April 1 screening that you now say was cancelled.  Can you explain to Mr.Nochange that if a screening for a particular city and/or date is cancelled that this then would necessitate a change in the website as well?  Mr.Nochange is under the impression that the producers are acting maliciously for reasons that don&#8217;t appear to be clear.</p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190932</link>
		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nochange @ 98:
&lt;b&gt;&quot;This is the site that until a few days ago would have allowed me to sign up for showings in Owings Mills&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Mr.Nochange, and why didn&#039;t you sign up at the first opportunity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nochange @ 98:<br />
<b>&#8220;This is the site that until a few days ago would have allowed me to sign up for showings in Owings Mills&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Mr.Nochange, and why didn&#8217;t you sign up at the first opportunity?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190895</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How is that private?&lt;/i&gt;

Compare the URLs:

Here is the public tour URL:
http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled

Here is the unpublished, unlinked &quot;private&quot; screenings URL
http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/special/expelled

Look at the differences in the two URLs and note the &quot;private&quot; screenings URL has &quot;special&quot; in place of &quot;movies&quot; in the URL.

That&#039;s how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How is that private?</i></p>
<p>Compare the URLs:</p>
<p>Here is the public tour URL:<br />
<a href="http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled" rel="nofollow">http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled</a></p>
<p>Here is the unpublished, unlinked &#8220;private&#8221; screenings URL<br />
<a href="http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/special/expelled" rel="nofollow">http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/ev.....l/expelled</a></p>
<p>Look at the differences in the two URLs and note the &#8220;private&#8221; screenings URL has &#8220;special&#8221; in place of &#8220;movies&#8221; in the URL.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how.</p>
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		<title>By: Nochange</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190893</link>
		<dc:creator>Nochange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-read my post # 94.  It is exactly what you have been discussing.  Now click through on the links I&#039;m talking about.  It takes you to the RSVP site that previously would have allowed you to sign up for showings of Expelled.  Indeed, I had been visiting it myself, until it was changed.

You can link to a site that previously allowed *anyone* to sign up for tickets from the Evolution New &amp; Views website.  Not hidden.  Totally linkable.  Anyone could have found it.  Anyone can sign up.  This is the site that until a few days ago would have allowed me to sign up for showings in Owings Mills, and has the showing in Minnesota that generated the uproar.

How is that private?

Unless it says, &quot;Sign up for tickets, unless you are Meyers or Dawkin&#039;s, or a Darwinist&quot;, I think this constitutes public.  How many ways will you twist yourself into a pretzel to make it seem like the folks at Expelled didn&#039;t screw up?  If this had been done to us, we would be trumpeting the censorious nature of Darwinists (indeed, we do!  and we should!).  But done to the other side, it&#039;s okay.  This bothers me deeply.  We are supposed to be better than them.  Not as petty.  Not as censorious.

P.S.

&quot;(and the two of you not having bumped into each other into agreement)&quot;

In addition to 5 million people in Maryland, there are at least several different places Marylanders can connect to the internet.  What are you talking about?  Can you tone down the paranoia?  I don&#039;t need a sockpuppet to agree with me.  I&#039;m quite content to hold my own opinions.  I&#039;m an independent thinker.  I don&#039;t no ck1.  Never met ck1.  Embarrassed that this is even an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-read my post # 94.  It is exactly what you have been discussing.  Now click through on the links I&#8217;m talking about.  It takes you to the RSVP site that previously would have allowed you to sign up for showings of Expelled.  Indeed, I had been visiting it myself, until it was changed.</p>
<p>You can link to a site that previously allowed *anyone* to sign up for tickets from the Evolution New &amp; Views website.  Not hidden.  Totally linkable.  Anyone could have found it.  Anyone can sign up.  This is the site that until a few days ago would have allowed me to sign up for showings in Owings Mills, and has the showing in Minnesota that generated the uproar.</p>
<p>How is that private?</p>
<p>Unless it says, &#8220;Sign up for tickets, unless you are Meyers or Dawkin&#8217;s, or a Darwinist&#8221;, I think this constitutes public.  How many ways will you twist yourself into a pretzel to make it seem like the folks at Expelled didn&#8217;t screw up?  If this had been done to us, we would be trumpeting the censorious nature of Darwinists (indeed, we do!  and we should!).  But done to the other side, it&#8217;s okay.  This bothers me deeply.  We are supposed to be better than them.  Not as petty.  Not as censorious.</p>
<p>P.S.</p>
<p>&#8220;(and the two of you not having bumped into each other into agreement)&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition to 5 million people in Maryland, there are at least several different places Marylanders can connect to the internet.  What are you talking about?  Can you tone down the paranoia?  I don&#8217;t need a sockpuppet to agree with me.  I&#8217;m quite content to hold my own opinions.  I&#8217;m an independent thinker.  I don&#8217;t no ck1.  Never met ck1.  Embarrassed that this is even an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nochange @ 94:
&lt;b&gt;

Nochange, the &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;Events &amp; Tours&lt;/b&gt;&quot; to which you are referring were indeed public; but this is not what we have been discussing.

All along the subject has been about movie screenings, which fall under a different banner.

And about my mistaking you for ck1 - this is because the two of you were expressing the same concern in exactly identical fashion (and the two of you not having bumped into each other into agreement) just seemed kinda odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nochange @ 94:<br />
<b></p>
<p>Nochange, the </b><b>Events &amp; Tours</b>&#8221; to which you are referring were indeed public; but this is not what we have been discussing.</p>
<p>All along the subject has been about movie screenings, which fall under a different banner.</p>
<p>And about my mistaking you for ck1 &#8211; this is because the two of you were expressing the same concern in exactly identical fashion (and the two of you not having bumped into each other into agreement) just seemed kinda odd.</p>
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		<title>By: ck1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davescot:

I did not RSVP to any invitation.
I registered for a ticket on a website on which I did not see anything stating &quot;By invitation only&quot;.
I did not see anything on that website indicating that registration was restricted to invited persons.

(and I have not registered here under any other name)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davescot:</p>
<p>I did not RSVP to any invitation.<br />
I registered for a ticket on a website on which I did not see anything stating &#8220;By invitation only&#8221;.<br />
I did not see anything on that website indicating that registration was restricted to invited persons.</p>
<p>(and I have not registered here under any other name)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nochange @ 94:

&lt;i&gt;This was an event that anyone could sign up for.&lt;/i&gt;

No it wasn&#039;t. It was one of many screenings expressly labeled &quot;Private&quot; whose RSVP URL was neither published nor linked from other pages on the website.

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/#comment-190428&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post 34&lt;/a&gt; for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nochange @ 94:</p>
<p><i>This was an event that anyone could sign up for.</i></p>
<p>No it wasn&#8217;t. It was one of many screenings expressly labeled &#8220;Private&#8221; whose RSVP URL was neither published nor linked from other pages on the website.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/#comment-190428" rel="nofollow">my post 34</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: Nochange</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dawkins-myers-and-what-rsvp-means/comment-page-3/#comment-190844</link>
		<dc:creator>Nochange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there are links to the rsvp system that come from the Evolution News &amp; Views website. 

From Evolution News &amp; Views, click on &quot;Academic Freedom Petition&quot;.  From there, click on &quot;Get Expelled&quot;.  Click on &quot;Events &amp; Tours&quot; and Click on &quot;RSVP&quot;.

I imagine there are other ways (I found this one accidentally, while reading Evolution News &amp; Views).  This showing wasn&#039;t a secret.  This showing wasn&#039;t a private party.  This had a perfectly legit way to sign up if you were interested.

Meyers is a bad man, we all agree on that.  But the Expelled people screwed up, and then lied to cover it up.

This was an event that anyone could sign up for.

When will we apologize?

(PS, ck1 is not me.  Maryland has a population of about 5 million.  Apparently at least 2 of us read Uncommon Descent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there are links to the rsvp system that come from the Evolution News &amp; Views website. </p>
<p>From Evolution News &amp; Views, click on &#8220;Academic Freedom Petition&#8221;.  From there, click on &#8220;Get Expelled&#8221;.  Click on &#8220;Events &amp; Tours&#8221; and Click on &#8220;RSVP&#8221;.</p>
<p>I imagine there are other ways (I found this one accidentally, while reading Evolution News &amp; Views).  This showing wasn&#8217;t a secret.  This showing wasn&#8217;t a private party.  This had a perfectly legit way to sign up if you were interested.</p>
<p>Meyers is a bad man, we all agree on that.  But the Expelled people screwed up, and then lied to cover it up.</p>
<p>This was an event that anyone could sign up for.</p>
<p>When will we apologize?</p>
<p>(PS, ck1 is not me.  Maryland has a population of about 5 million.  Apparently at least 2 of us read Uncommon Descent).</p>
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		<title>By: JPCollado</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPCollado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ck1, are you by any chance the same person that is posting under the username &quot;nochange&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ck1, are you by any chance the same person that is posting under the username &#8220;nochange&#8221;?</p>
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