Comments on: Darwinism and popular culture: Seattle DOESN’T love Lucy? Oh, … how could they not?

By: merlin

merlin — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:09:07 +0000

I read two or three of D. Carl Johansen’s books (ghost written, I think) and learned several interesting things about The Theory, including what he thought was the best arguments for it. A professor with a group of paleontology students were at a dig in East Africa. The prof was describing his theory of how and why apes descended from the trees and a student asked how he knew that any of what he was saying was true. His evidence was “Got a better explanation?” and “We’re here aren’t we?”

To date a specimen that he found, D. Carl send in samples taken from volcanic ash above and below the specimen. Two came back with ages within the range (3.8 to 4.2 million year) that he had determined by sight, I guess. The third was 12 million years. “Well, that can’t be right” and that sample was tossed.

Johansen can also wake up at night anywhere in the world and instantly know what time it is. With clocks arount for only a few seconds of evolutionary time, I’d like to know how that ability evolved.

By: critter

critter — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:44:23 +0000

What does Darwin’s contextual racism have to do with the scientific (or not) basis of evolution?

By: Borne

Borne — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:55:19 +0000

Well I’ve posted this several times in the past already both here and elsewhere and never get any responses; curiously, no one seems to realize the import.

But I’ll say it again : Lucy was debunked and discarded in 1999 by the French magazine Science et Vie (issue 980). They did a cover story called “Adieu Lucy” with about 10 pages of scientific research and evidence by some highly respected scientists that demonstrated that Lucy was, in fact, no human ancestor.

Yet here we are in the supposedly advanced West still hearing the same old hype, BS and propaganda over poor defunct Lucy.

Don’t American scientists read anything but their own studies?

Or, does the fact that the French scientists published Lucy’s demise 10 years ago – and that the US sci-community still doesn’t get it – mean that both Darwinists and IDists in the West are ignorant of what’s going on in the rest of the world?

Or does it mean that our beloved Darweens have suppressed the information on Lucy?

Well that would be a surprise huh!

By: OLDMAN

OLDMAN — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:13:06 +0000

This is the second attempt to commercialize Lucy that has flopped. The first was a number of years ago when a “First Family” set of dolls was introduced. “I can’t understand why they’re not selling”, said the famous paleontologist who dresses like a giant boy scout, “The little baby Australopithecus is so cute.”

By: jpg564

jpg564 — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:48:00 +0000

I recall seeing Johansen and Richard Leakey on Nova years ago discussing the Lucy fossil, and debating (or was it just arguing like in the Monty Python skit?) about where Lucy fit in the evolutionary chain. Johansen had his tree of life poster not surprisingly showing Lucy in the main trunk leading to modern humans. Leakey, of course, disagreed, his rendition showing Lucy on a dead-end branch. No actual evidence was ever presented or even discussed in support of their respective positions, just two conflicting opinions. I was almost embarrassed for them. It must have been in the seventies, maybe early eighties when it aired. Anyone else recall seeing it?

By: bevets

bevets — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:27:25 +0000

I am firmly convinced that no theory of human evolution can be regarded as satisfactory unless the revelations of Piltdown are taken into account. ~ Arthur Keith

By: Domoman

Domoman — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:36:22 +0000

*EDIT

Meant to say:

“I actually read in an article that they did some sort of 3D x-rays or something and found out it’s likely that she had wrists like an ape.”

By: Domoman

Domoman — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:35:42 +0000

Nice, nice. I haven’t had much respect for Lucy. I actually read in an article that they did some sort of 3D x-rays or something and found out it’s likely that the had wrists like an ape.

Of course, they probably won’t tell you that. But a least they admitted to finding her spread over an entire hillside. That kind of sinks most of their case. Who’s to say the bones even go together?