There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. ~ Albert Einstein…

Why did the families of the victims not file civil lawsuits against the other members of the trenchcoat mafia(TCM) that were identified by witnesses as participants in the massacre?

1) TCMer Eric Dutro walking around the school cafeteria telling people that “Satan loves you”(Kelly Beer, 6106) in the spring of ’98.

2) Courtney van Dell, aka ‘devil girl,’ wore barettes in her hair to make it look like she had horns. Said to be a ‘wikken’(sic) or a devil worshipper(Kristi Mohrbacher(1010), Jessica Lucero(1508 ), Leigh Ann Clark(2723)).

3) The students seeking shelter with Clement Park worker Steve Ogle(1056) told him the perpetrators were TCM and were “satanists”.

4) Jecoa Catt(1364) told IO that the TCM were satanic.

5) Jason Jones(1474) observed the TCM playing ‘magic’ cards in the cafeteria, which were about the devil and about power.

6) Lacey Shotts(1651) said she believed the TCM students were ‘devil worshippers.’

7) Jen Smull saw Robert Perry at a halloween party dressed as a worlock(1827).

8 ) Student Perlman(4054) said Joe Stair used to come to woodshop class with a book he called ‘the devil’s bible’.

9) Prior to 4th hour on 4-20, Nicole Ray(4144) saw a male TCMer in the science hall, with his hair fashioned ino devil’s horns.

10) TCM associate Nathan Dykeman’s bedroom wall was supposedly covered with devil posters(4630).

11) Nathan Dykeman says Harris called him ‘devil man’.(10710)

12) Daniel Burg(5838 ) told the IO that “…the TCM–they’re like satanists.”

13) TCM leader Chris Morris told Mark Hengel(5899) “I don’t believe in God. I follow Satan’s Commandmants.”

14) Sara Lutes(6821) says the TCM were satanic, and that they wore satanic symbols on their shirts, underneath their trenchcoats.

15) Chris Hooker, 18, said they were “satanic individuals.”
“We’d see them every day. They’ve threatened to kill people … but nobody thought that was serious,” Hooker said.

16) Library Intern Mary Ziccardi(13647) spent one week at CHS in November of ’98. Says Eric Harris “looked like the devil” and may have worn black lipstick.

17) Teacher Mr. Long(EP24-17) said he kicked TCM associate Joe Stair out the computer class for accessing satanic sights. This happened last year.(1998)

18 ) TCM associate Eric Ault(10645) told the IOs that “they were into satanic worship.”

19) Jennfer Harmon(8835): “…one of their friends-’Becka’-was waiting for the devil to take over the soul.”

20) Brooks Brown(USAToday.com): “They’re(TCM) all big on anti-God Satanism. They are really just ‘pure hate’.”

21) What kind of music did the TCM like? ‘Devil’ music according to Brandi Wiseman(4751).

22) Trista Fogerty(1420): TCM were satanic, when she first got to CHS friends told her to avoid the group.

23) Nicole Markham(8794): “Harris was into…heavy satanic music.”

24) Nicole Lawson, sophomore(3526): (TCM associates)”Stephanie(Kinny) and Kelly(Schwab) would draw “fnords” on the black board. Fnords are little symbols that were servants of the devil. They would draw a whole bunch of them. They did it when no one was looking.” ['fnord' is thought to stand for 'for no other reason, discord']

25) TCM associate Chuckie Phillips(10866) internet code(Puterfnord@…) name was meant to represent a servant of the devil.

26) Dustin Harrison(6577): “Dustin said (Redacted) ‘scared me to death’ because Dustin had heard that (Redacted) was a member of the “Hells Angels” satanic group and said that this satanic group is into human sacrifices. Dustin said that (Redacted) was very verbal about his desire to kill people.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrar.....marks.html

Let us not ignore the testimony of Julius Streicher:

The teaching of Christianity has stood in the way of a radical solution of the Jewish problem in Europe…

Oh heck, here’s the link:

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Let us not ignore the testimony of Julius Streicher:

The teaching of Christianity has stood in the way of a radical solution of the Jewish problem in Europe…

So, you’re not an YEC creationist. What about an ID creationist. (or cdesign proponentist)?

If you had found my examples unpersuasive and had told me why, I might have be motivated to add to the list.
I did, but you disregarded it. So, why bother?

The examples of christian anti-semitism (which is why I brought Avalos up in the first place) are abundant enough and documented enough that you’d have to somehow show that Martin Luther (author of “On the Jews and Their Lies”) was not a christian; you’d have to discredit historians like Dagobert Runes whose mother died in the holocaust; you’d have to dismiss Hitler himself when he said how much he admired Martin Luther (Darwin wasn’t mentioned in his book); you’d have to ignore the the Nuremberg testimony of Der Sturmer editor Julius Streicher who said that if Martin Luther were alive then, he’d be in the dock with them, because they just did what he originally suggested.

In rereading my comments, I find that I did make a rather snippy remark about your willingness to accept what I believed to be a dishonest account. I retract that comment. I also find that I described Hector Avalos’ work as dishonest when I obviously have no way of knowing what his intentions were.

Beyond that, I can only tell you that his work is full of errors. If you did not find my first two or three examples persuasive, then it will not profit me to add to the list. My guess is, most disinterested people who read my post #55 will recognize that I know what I am talking about and that I need not continue offering examples. If you had found my examples unpersuasive and had told me why, I might have be motivated to add to the list.

As it is, I could flood the internet with 10 or 15 examples, including the arguments presented for christian anti-semitism and creationist rationale for abortion, many of which (not all) are ludicrous. But you could just as easily dismiss them as you did the first two. So, I think I will just let it go for now.

By the way, I am not a creationist. But I’ll leave it to you to decide whether you should take back that erroneous and judgmental comment.