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Behe-McWhorter Back Online

August 31, 2009 Posted by William Dembski under Intelligent Design
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[Update 8.31.09: The McWhorter-Behe interview is back online at Bloggingheads; Robert Wright, who heads Bloggingheads, was incommunicado during the interview's removal and on his return to wired reality decided to put the dialogue back up. For his explanation of what happened, go here: bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/22075]

[Update 8.28.09: Michael Behe has just posted his take on the bloggingheads matter -- behe.uncommondescent.com]

Isn’t the Internet wonderful. Bloggingheads takes down the Behe-McWhorter discussion one day. A few hours later it’s back up:

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104 Responses to Behe-McWhorter Back Online

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  1. 91
    ShawnBoyAugust 29, 2009 at 9:57 am

    I don’t much care about Dr Sternberg being let go, but I’d love to see you give some evidence that the NCSE are fascists.

    I’d recommend the website NCSE Exposed: No Victim-Blaming Allowed!

  2. 92
    yakky dAugust 29, 2009 at 10:13 am

    KF,

    Ouch!

    Shades of Sternberg!

    [Remember, Sternberg's thought crime was to have HOSTED a successfully peer reviewed pro ID article. So we see the uncivil spirit we are up against in full cry once again.]

    Have you read the thread over at BloggingHeads?

    I would challenge you to do so and compare it to some of the comments in this very blog post. Do you approve of accusing “Darwinists” of “proverbial” beheadings? You’ve even referred NCSE and ACLU “shock/storm troopers” yourself in #56. And I’m not even sure what this means:

    And that will not do, Mr McWhorter, tut tut: time for brass knuckles, spiked baseball bats — so much more useful as a club than a cricket bat — and spike nailed boots.

    but it sounds as if you are accusing “Darwinists” of plotting physical violence. Not a very “civil spirit” I would say.

  3. 93
    yakky dAugust 29, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Clarification to my post #92: I probably didn’t choose the best portion of KF’s post to quote; I’m addressing Behe’s allegation of and KF’s commentary on alleged “cyberbullies” at BloggingHeads.

  4. 94
    IRQ ConflictAugust 29, 2009 at 11:39 am

    yakky d Wrote:

    “Do you approve of accusing “Darwinists” of “proverbial” beheadings?”

    Would you have taken offense if I had said ‘they gave him the axe’?

  5. 95
    lamarckAugust 29, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Is there any way we can confirm that Yakky’s actually pro-ID?

    Yakky it was a brilliant scheme to pose as a darwinist with underhanded softball after softball, and striking out each time when you’re up to bat.

    But it’s getting played out. Conspiracy after conspiracy is unearthed and confirmed, making your clever ruse too obvious.

    Come on back over to our side with your other username bro, well done.

  6. 96
    yakky dAugust 29, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    IRQ Conflict,

    Quite like Muslims, “Taqqyia”, Darwinists are more than ready to lie and behead give the axe to those who insult Darwin.

    No wonder the atheist religion prefers islam over Christianity. They have the same god.

    It’s a bit less graphic, but still needs improvement IMHO :D

    On a more serious note, while I’m not a big fan of Islam, I do have a lot of respect for many of the Muslims I have gotten to know over the years. There’s no need to make these insulting stereotypical statements to support the case for ID.

    lamarck,

    Is there any way we can confirm that Yakky’s actually pro-ID?

    Yakky it was a brilliant scheme to pose as a darwinist with underhanded softball after softball, and striking out each time when you’re up to bat.

    So I’m a double-secret-reverse deep cover sock? Interesting hypothesis! :D

  7. 97
    IRQ ConflictAugust 30, 2009 at 12:22 am

    yakky d,

    There are decent people that have been raised as Muslims yes. But by far they are the minority. Why do you think it is that the so-called ‘moderate’ Muslims rarely if ever cry out at the atrocities committed by adherents to Islam? It’s not rocket science.

    There are things you need to know about true Islam. Here’s but the latest sampling: http://www.americanthinker.com.....rifqa.html

    2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

  8. 98
    yakky dAugust 30, 2009 at 12:58 am

    IRQ Conflict,

    There are decent people that have been raised as Muslims yes. But by far they are the minority.

    When you say decent Muslims are by far in the minority, about what percentage are you talking about? Give me a rough estimate.

    Also, to what extent are your views about Muslims determined through person-to-person interaction rather than reports from the media? Do you have many Muslim friends or coworkers?

  9. 99
    JosephAugust 30, 2009 at 10:31 am

    IRQ,

    I have been to muslim countries.

    Muslims by far are very decent people.

    It is only the very few who do bad things.

    Why don’t the moderates speak out?

    Two reasons that I can see:

    1- They do not want to die

    2- It is up to Allah to judge and punish.

    But anyway if there are 100 million muslims and 1% are “bad” people, that makes 1 million.

    1 million is 1000 people in 1000 cities.

    Sure that seems like a lot but in context it isn’t.

    Now look at Christians- they fight each other. And they form groups that don’t like different skin colors.

    BTW Islam, Christianity and Judaism trace back to Abraham- IOW they all worship the same “God”.

  10. 100
    Clive HaydenAugust 30, 2009 at 10:49 am

    No more discussion about Muslims.

  11. 101
    IRQ ConflictAugust 30, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Sorry Clive. Didn’t see you post till after I made mine.

  12. 102
    IRQ ConflictAugust 31, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Heh, BHTV doesn’t want to look biased/bad. Too late. But I’m still glad they re-posted it. It’s really the honorable thing to do.

  13. 103
    O'LearyAugust 31, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    IRQ Conflict 102: I joined the discussion late, but restoring the link was indeed the honourable thing to do, and good for Bloggingheads!

    A strict Bloggingheads policy of not removing vlogs is wise because it protects all parties.

    One party may be under pressure from various sources to demand the removal of the vlog – but that creates the impression that he believes he has lost a debate.

    How does that help him?

    Also, there is no clear way for his supporters to defend his position.

    Various parties may have archived the vlog, but discussion then becomes a huge mess, as there is no one single official Bloggingheads link that we reasonably believe no one has tampered with.

  14. 104
    kairosfocusSeptember 1, 2009 at 12:31 am

    YakkyD

    You need to read the material Sternberg has at the linked.

    Then, think very, very carefully about where institutional science, government, law enforcement and the civlisation are headed on this track.

    (Perhaps a glance at this book may help.)

    GEM of TKI

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