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A surprising admission on altruism by Professor Jerry Coyne

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Professor Jerry Coyne makes a surprising admission on the origins of altruism in a recent post titled, David Sloan Wilson tells the BBC that the evolution of altruism in humans is “solved”: it’s group selection (of course). In his no-holds-barred critique of David Sloan Wilson’s “group selection” theory of how altruism arose, Coyne is refreshingly frank in his acknowledgement of what scientists don’t know about altruism:

The fact is that human ‘altruism’ is a mixture of diverse and complex behaviors, only one of which corresponds to the real evolutionary issue of altruism: reproductive self-sacrifice by people that benefits unrelated people who give nothing back. And we simply haven’t the slightest idea whether that form of altruism evolved, or even if it has a genetic basis: i.e., that we have specific genes promoting such reproductive sacrifice. “True” biological altruism in humans appears rare, and when it does it appears to hijack behaviors that evolved, probably by individual or kin selection, for other reasons. Finally, there are formidable problems with explaining altruism and self-sacrificial cooperation by group selection compared to individual selection (see Pinker reference below) – problems that make the group selection explanation less parsimonious…

But for the most cogent critique of why human cooperation and altruism are unlikely to have evolved by group selection, see Steve Pinker’s Edge essay, “The false allure of group selection.” I won’t repeat his many arguments, but if you’re interested in the evolution of traits that seem bad for the individual but good for the group, it’s a must-read. One of his most telling arguments is that the traits that lead one group to dominate others are in fact not altruistic: they’re things like coercion, slavery, contempt for weakness, and so on. Groups that we see as really altruistic, like the Amish and San, don’t seem to have done well in inter-group competition…

In the end, Wilson is simply wrong in asserting that the evolutionary problem of altruism has been solved – and here I mean the existence of true biological altruism in humans. We don’t have any idea if such altruism is even based on “altruism” genes. (And if we all have such genes, why do so few of us display true biological altruism?)”

Of course, Coyne has his own pet theory of how true altruism arose: he thinks it’s just a spin-off of reciprocal behavior.

Simple “helping” behaviors that likely evolved in our ancestors, in which individuals benefit those who aren’t especially closely related, could have evolved by individual selection, via a “tit-for-tat” strategy, also called “I’ll scratch your back; you scratch mine”). In these scenarios, individuals remember and recognize each other so that help given to a group-member will eventually be repaid. In other words, the “sacrifice” is only temporary and illusory since it’s repaid. If altruism like that—which isn’t true altruism in the sense that you don’t lose net reproductive fitness — evolved by individual selection, we’d expect to see it evolve in smallish groups in which individuals remember and recognize each other so that generous acts can be repaid to the right people. These are in fact precisely the conditions under which most of human evolution took place…

As I say in Faith versus Fact, where I’m addressing Francis Collins’s claim that altruism couldn’t have evolved at all but must have been vouchsafed us by God:

In fact, many aspects of cooperation and altruism are precisely those we’d expect if their rudiments had evolved [by individual selection]. Altruism toward others is reciprocated most often when many people know about it, but often isn’t when you can get away with free riding. Humans have sensitive antennae for detecting violations of reciprocity, they choose to cooperate with more generous individuals, and they cooperate more when it enhances their reputation. These are signs not of a pure, God-given altruism, but of a form of cooperation that would evolve in small bands of human ancestors.

An obvious problem with Coyne’s account is that true altruism requires an extended concept of self in order to justify it. One needs to either identify one’s true self with a larger group (e.g. the tribe, or society, or humanity), or locate one’s true identity in something – call it the soul if you like – which transcends the body. And in order to have such an enriched concept of self, one needs to possess a language in which one is capable of formulating this concept. But as recent research has shown, it appears that language arose very suddenly, in a manner which remains highly mysterious. In other words, evolutionary accounts of the origin of altruism fail because they do not adequately address the origins of human language.

In other news, it appears that late Acheulean hand axes required advanced cognition on the part of their makers, 500,000 years ago.

What do readers think about the origins of altruism?

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fifthmonarchyman: saying that similar but varying mechanisms are thought to be involved is vacuous You're still misreading. While the mechanisms of how altruism is expressed vary, the evolutionary mechanisms leading to altruism are similar. In bacteria, altruism is expressed as gene exchange; in insects, programmed behavior; in mammals, bonding and nurturing. But in all these cases, they are thought by biologists to have evolved due to kin selection.Zachriel
April 20, 2015
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hey zac, Let me know when you have something concrete to discuss or when you have anything constructive to offer on the subject of altruism. Hint; saying that similar but varying mechanisms are thought to be involved is vacuous. peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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fifthmonarchyman: I’d like to see some actual evidence that the clump of matter we call Zachriel is analogous to the clump of matter we call a single e coli cell but not analogous to the clump of matter we call Pando . You misread our statement. Similar mechanisms are thought to be involved in the *evolution* of biological altruism in various organisms. The mechanisms of altruism itself varies considerably, from simple gene exchange to mothering to complex social interactions.Zachriel
April 19, 2015
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zac says, Actually, biologists believe similar mechanisms are involved in the evolution of biological altruism in various organisms, including humans. I say, Biologists think a lot of things. I'd like to see some actual evidence that the clump of matter we call Zachriel is analogous to the clump of matter we call a single e coli cell but not analogous to the clump of matter we call Pando . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_%28tree%29 peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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fifthmonarchyman: However even if we assume materialism there is no reason that “cooperation” in particular clump of matter would have anything whatsoever to do with altruism at another level of arbitrary abstraction Actually, biologists believe similar mechanisms are involved in the evolution of biological altruism in various organisms, including humans.Zachriel
April 19, 2015
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wd400 said, If an ecoli cell exports a sideraphore when it could get away wih out doing do it’s being altruistic. I say, No it is not. The ecoli is not a "self" so it can not sacrifice itself for the benefit of unrelated others. This much should be obvious. You say If you want to waste time arguing this isn’t “altruism” as you define it you are welcome to, but that can hardly be relevant to the topic of biological altruism, which is the topic of this thread. I say, What you are talking about is not altruism period. It is a completely unrelated concept. If I chose to I could say that photosynthesis is actually "biological altruism" and give an evolutionary just so story for how photosynthesis arrived but by doing so I have not solved the evolution of human altruism. far from it. I would just be blowing smoke. If you want to explain human altruism by appealing to what happens in ecoli you need to explain how ecoli is capable of self sacrifice. that means you need to explain how an individual bacterium is the equivalent of a human person. You have not even attempted to do so.fifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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Worldview has nothing to do with it. If an ecoli cell exports a sideraphore when it could get away wih out doing do it's being altruistic. It requires no magic (nor philosophical waffle) to see this. Indeed, all it requires for this behaviour to switch from cooperation to cheating is a single mutation. Just chemistry. If you want to waste time arguing this isn't "altruism" as you define it you are welcome to, but that can hardly be relevant to the topic of biological altruism, which is the topic of this thread. I really don't know how this could be explained more simlpy.wd400
April 19, 2015
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WD400, Is almost as you haven’t read this thread… I say, I could say exactly the same for you. We are looking at the same words but because of our different Worldviews we are inferring completely different meanings. Like so much of what goes on when we discuss stuff like this it is like we are living in two separate worlds with no connection between them. Oh well I told you I did not expect you to get it peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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Is almost as you haven't read this thread...wd400
April 19, 2015
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Wd400, I’ve no interest in that, mostly because it’s not at all related to the evolution of altruism I say, Of course it is at the core of the question of how altruism arose. How could what goes on in a particular arbitrary clump of matter have anything whatsoever to do with the concept of self sacrifice. The reason you do not see the irrationality of your position is because you assume the truth of your position from the outset. However even if we assume materialism there is no reason that "cooperation" in particular clump of matter would have anything whatsoever to do with altruism at another level of arbitrary abstraction peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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fifthmonarchyman: The arbitrary part is in the choosing of a particular clump to focus on rather than another. All models are wrong, but some are useful. — George E. P. BoxZachriel
April 19, 2015
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Ok, you seem to be compelled to waffle on about this irrelevant philosophical. I've no interest in that, mostly because it's not at all related to the evolution of altruism. Feel free to contin ue, but I'm not going to waste any more time on itwd400
April 19, 2015
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zac says, The clump isn’t arbitrary, but observed. I say, The arbitrary part is in the choosing of a particular clump to focus on rather than another. Of course you knew that obvious point already but choose to ignore it because you are not interested in actual discussion here. peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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fifthmonarchyman: How is that approach not arbitrary? The clump isn't arbitrary, but observed.Zachriel
April 19, 2015
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Zac says, Because materials clump. A certain clump we call an individual organism. I say We can call.......or not. How is that approach not arbitrary? peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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fifthmonarchyman: What justification do you have to arbitrarily focus on one particular configuration of mater instead of the others? Because materials clump. A certain clump we call an individual organism.Zachriel
April 19, 2015
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Wd400 says. I’ve talked about my own religious views here and have no interest in discussing relighous topis. I say, Your Worldview is not a religious topic it your fundamental cognitive orientation encompassing the entirety of your knowledge and point of view. It influences and constrains everything you know and believe. There is nothing that is above it in your mind, science included. Your worldview is the framework by which you interpret all the observations you make. Science is secondary. In fact you worldview even determines what you mean when you think of science. you say, But the individual E coli cells are pretty obviously individuals capable of cooperating or not. The end of an ecoli being the the cell wall… I say, I'm not so sure that is the case given materialism. And I have no idea why it would be so. In a single E coli cell there are individual genes that may or may not cooperate. And a colony of bacteria is often separated from it's environment by a bio-film. Why stop at the level of the cell and not the gene or the colony??? What justification do you have to arbitrarily focus on one particular configuration of mater instead of the others? peacefifthmonarchyman
April 19, 2015
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What's my "world view"? I've talked about my own religious views here and have no interest in discussing relighous topis. The evolution of altruism is a scientific question. But the individual E coli cells are pretty obviously individuals capable of cooperating or not. The end of an ecoli being the the cell wall...wd400
April 18, 2015
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hey WD400, I know you often have a hard time understanding me so I don't have a lot of confidence that you will get this. But I'll give it a shot You can't get to altruism by appealing to cooperation but you can't even get cooperation unless you have separate discrete individual whole things. The problem is in your worldview you have no objective way to specify where a particular configuration of matter ends and another begins. peacefifthmonarchyman
April 18, 2015
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You can’t explain self sacrifice unless your worldview account for the self.
Why? People keep saying this but noone can explain why, in the context of biological altruism and Coyne's explanation, this is so.wd400
April 18, 2015
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Wd400 says, Yeah, this is the first year philosophy stuff I’m trying to avoid. I say, The problem is you can't avoid philosophy if you want to explain something like self sacrifice for the benefit of the other. You can't explain self sacrifice unless your worldview account for the self.fifthmonarchyman
April 18, 2015
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I asked a number of questions that you avoided. We notice hydrogen atoms cooperating to form hydrogen molecules. In your view, is this an example of an “individual” or a “self” of some kind?
Yeah, this is the first year philosophy stuff I'm trying to avoid. A hydrogen molecule is an individual, but it doesn't cooperate in any way relevant to altruism. Which is the topic of this conversation.
The number of descendent cells is not a gain for the individual cell.
Again, in terms of the evolution of altruism, the optic of the conversation, that is indeed a gain.
Additionally, altruism is a case where the self-sacrifice gives nothing back – including long-term gains. It’s not mere cooperation, which is something we can see in chemical reactions, but the loss of a self for the benefit of another, unrelated self.
Have you read the OP? Coyne thinks the "true" altruism (with no biological pay off at all) is a result of normal cooperation applied to the wrong case.wd400
April 17, 2015
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wd400 I asked a number of questions that you avoided. We notice hydrogen atoms cooperating to form hydrogen molecules. In your view, is this an example of an "individual" or a "self" of some kind?
Instead of doing that they give up their short-term ‘gain’ (in terms of number of descendant cells) for the long term gains made from cooperating.
The number of descendent cells is not a gain for the individual cell. It is no less selfish than cancer cells in that case. Additionally, altruism is a case where the self-sacrifice gives nothing back - including long-term gains. It's not mere cooperation, which is something we can see in chemical reactions, but the loss of a self for the benefit of another, unrelated self.Silver Asiatic
April 17, 2015
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This is getting dangerously close to first year philosophy. When I said "self" I didn't meant some mystical concept of selfhood, I just mean ability to determine where an individual starts and ends. That's what you seemed to be talking about in your first comment. Perhaps some concrete examples will help. In a human (or any orther multi-cellular organism) body, most cells could reproduce much more quickly than they do. They could send out chemical signals that create new vasculation, giving them more energy, turn of the various checks in the cell cycle. Instead of doing that they give up their short-term 'gain' (in terms of number of descendant cells) for the long term gains made from cooperating. But the cell doesn't "know" it's part of a whole, it just that genes that do this have been favoured. Cancer is basically the breakdown of this cooperation. When a cell evades the cell-cycle, or can greedily grab more blood/nutrients it stops acting as part of the whole creates a new cell lineage that evolves on its own (with sucessive mutations taking over the tumour. But this switch from cooperation to selfishness didn't require any extended concept of self, it was just mutations that changed the way those gene products worked. In ecoli, for instance, the release or otherwise of siderophores (which help other cells digest certain compounds) is likewise the result of simple chemical reactions, and influenced by mutation. All the "self" an ecoli cells needs to "know" to do this it what's inside and what outside of it. So why should any of this "self" stuff be a problem for altruism?wd400
April 17, 2015
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wd400
Again, sa, this bears no obvious relation to the question of altruism.
I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Jerry Coyne as quoted: the real evolutionary issue of altruism: reproductive self-sacrifice by people that benefits unrelated people who give nothing back. Your explanation:
In multicellular organisms cells also have to cooperate
Hydrogen atoms cooperate to form a hydrogen molecule. So you'd call that 'altruism'? "Just chemicals".
But these designations of “self” don’t require and magic “concepts” let alone language (!).
You may be right - you seem very emphatic about it. You already stated that "the normal version [of self] ... is present in life from bacteria to plants to giraffes" However ...
SA - I’d like to see the empirical evidence that “self” is present in bacteria and plants.
That was my way of asking you to show me that and I'm sorry it was a bit indirect. I'll restate: "You claim that 'self' is present in all life. Please show me empirical evidence of this." This appears to be your argument: Self exists. But language is not required to identify it. And while self exists, a concept of self is not required for self-sacrifice. How does one distinguish a "self" from non-self without language? As I asked, is a single cell a "self"? Is a hydrogen molecule a "self"? Are 4 hydrogen molecules joined another "self"? If you took just 2 of those, would that be 'half a self'? Is one cup of water from the ocean an "individual"? Is a quart another "individual"?Silver Asiatic
April 17, 2015
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Again, sa, this bears no obvious relation to the question of altruism. Cells need to "know" what's going on inside them and outside, reacting to those cues. In multicellular organisms cells also have to cooperate,(indeed, cancer is more or less the breakdown of this cooperation, with evolving on their own). But these designations of "self" don't require and magic "concepts" let alone language (!). Just chemicals.wd400
April 17, 2015
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wd400
Why do you need an “extended” verison of “self” (not just the normal version, which is present in life from bacteria to plants to giraffes) to be altruistic?
I don't know what was meant by 'extended' version of self - so I'll have to leave it to the author to explain. I was just talking about the normal version of self. Aside from that, I'd like to see the empirical evidence that "self" is present in bacteria and plants.
And why on earth would you need language to hold a mental concept of this extended self?
At what point in binary fission does an amoeba recognize a different "self"? As fmm points out, there's no empirical evidence (that I know of so far) that indicates that a swarm is not an individual. Language is required to make distinctions like this. Does each cell in the human body have a "self"? Is each cell an "individual"? Why would unicellular organisms be different? As for what this has to do with materialism, in that view, everything is matter. Materialism is a monist belief. Everything is actually just one thing. You can take a look at my analogy regarding water drops for the idea on how this works.Silver Asiatic
April 17, 2015
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The bible clearly says We were meant to love each other. God does and its a command to reinforce our natural instinct. Yet our rebellion and sin makes us not love. Thats all .Robert Byers
April 16, 2015
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Don Pedro says, Its “altruism” is a self-sustaining pattern of successful gene propagation, governed by pop-gen statistics — not an act of sacrifice. I say, So obviously bacteria and comb jellys and aspen trees are incapable of altruism. Do you agree? peacefifthmonarchyman
April 16, 2015
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And obviously self sacrifice makes no sense until there is a self to be denied for the sake of the other.
Only if you anthropomorphise nature. One bacterium does not "deny" anything "for the sake" of another -- not literally, at any rate. It isn't a conscious agent. Its "altruism" is a self-sustaining pattern of successful gene propagation, governed by pop-gen statistics -- not an act of sacrifice. On "self" -- perhaps more tomorrow. I'll be off to bed now.Don Pedro
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