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Recently, I’ve been reading Dr. Stephen C. Meyer’s excellent book, Darwin’s Doubt (Harper One, 2013). Towards the end of the book, I came across a paragraph that struck me as the best case I’ve ever seen for Intelligent Design, in 200 words or less.

“This book has presented four separate scientific critiques demonstrating the inadequacy of the neo-Darwinian mechanism, the mechanism that Dawkins assumes can produce the appearance of design without intelligent guidance. It has shown that the neo-Darwinian mechanism fails to account for the origin of genetic information because: (1) it has no means of efficiently searching combinatorial sequence space for functional genes and proteins and, consequently, (2) it requires unrealistically long waiting times to generate even a single new gene or protein. It has also shown that the mechanism cannot produce new body plans because: (3) early acting mutations, the only kind capable of generating large-scale changes, are also invariably deleterious, and (4) genetic mutations cannot, in any case, generate the epigenetic information necessary to build a body plan.” (pp. 410-411)

For the benefit of readers who may be unfamiliar with the concept of epigenetic information, Dr. Meyer provides a helpful, concise explanation in an earlier chapter:

“In addition to the information stored in individual genes and the information present in the integrated networks of genes and proteins in dGRNs [developmental gene regulatory networks – VJT], animal forms exemplify hierarchical arrangements or layers of information-rich molecules, systems, and structures. For example, developing embryos require epigenetic information in the form of specifically arranged (a) membrane targets and patterns, (b) cytoskeletal arrays, (c) ion channels, and (d) sugar molecules on the exterior of cells (the sugar code)… Much of this information resides in the structure of the maternal egg and is inherited directly from membrane to membrane independently of DNA…

“…This information at a higher structural level in the maternal egg helps to determine the function of both whole networks of genes and proteins (dGRNs) and individual molecules (gene products) at a lower level within a developing animal.” (pp. 364-365)

Finally, in his earlier book, Signature in the Cell, Dr. Meyer provides an in-depth treatment of the difficulties attending the modern scientific view that life arose via an unguided process. Here, the cardinal difficulty, in Meyer’s own words, is that “explaining the origin of life requires – first and foremost – explaining the origin of the information or digital code present in DNA and RNA.” Contemporary naturalistic theories, which rule out Intelligent Design, all “fail to account for the origin of the genetic information necessary to produce the first selfreplicating organism.” Once again, Dr. Meyer’s summary of his case is admirably succinct.

So, here are two questions for my readers.

First, a challenge: can anyone locate an even more succinct (but no less comprehensive) statement of the case for Intelligent Design in the literature?

And for skeptics of Intelligent Design: how would you attempt to rebut Dr. Meyer’s case, in 200 words or less?

Comments
The paragraph from Dr. Meyer’s book presents a poor case. Point (1) is not a necessary function of evolution. Points (2), (3), and (4) assert unproven claims. Like most pseudoscientific arguments against evolution, the underlying (and illogical) assumption Dr. Meyer makes is that anything which is currently unexplained is assumed unexplainable, all unresolved complexity is assumed irreducible, and any problem currently known is assumed insuperable. There you go; 66 words. And it’s at least as scientific as Dr. Meyer’s paragraph, if not much more so. You may object that it leaves a lot unexplained, but of course there’s only so much one can do within a 200 word limit, and Dr. Meyer appears to have preceded his paragraph with 400+ pages of typing. sean s.sean samis
May 14, 2015
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Carpathian:
When I use the terms “download” and “program”, I mean information only.
Something non-material then. What does the interface look like?Mung
May 13, 2015
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PS: In describing the action of the digital circuitry and magnetic storage media, interface devices etc I could revert to a physical description that would obscure the material factors, which are informational. Your problem seems to be that the informational view is inconvenient to what you wish to head towards so in certain contexts you are selectively hyperskeptical about it, That does not prevent it from being real and relevant, and it actually inadvertently shows its power. One can describe a symphony as a collection of vibrations in the air triggered by various physical mechanisms -- indeed, that is why we can reduce it to an MP3 file, but that does not remove the reality and relevance of the symphony. And BTW this directly builds on a remark by Einstein on much the same.kairosfocus
May 13, 2015
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Carpathian, more word magic on your part. Do you remember how viruses take over, hijack cellular mechanisms and reprogram them? Clipping Wiki, FYI:
Viral populations do not grow through cell division, because they are acellular. Instead, they use the machinery and metabolism of a host cell to produce multiple copies of themselves, and they assemble in the cell. A typical virus replication cycle Some bacteriophages inject their genomes into bacterial cells (not to scale) The life cycle of viruses differs greatly between species but there are six basic stages in the life cycle of viruses:[93] Attachment is a specific binding between viral capsid proteins and specific receptors on the host cellular surface. This specificity determines the host range of a virus. For example, HIV infects a limited range of human leucocytes. This is because its surface protein, gp120, specifically interacts with the CD4 molecule – a chemokine receptor – which is most commonly found on the surface of CD4+ T-Cells. This mechanism has evolved to favour those viruses that infect only cells in which they are capable of replication. Attachment to the receptor can induce the viral envelope protein to undergo changes that results in the fusion of viral and cellular membranes, or changes of non-enveloped virus surface proteins that allow the virus to enter. Penetration follows attachment: Virions enter the host cell through receptor-mediated endocytosis or membrane fusion. This is often called viral entry. The infection of plant and fungal cells is different from that of animal cells. Plants have a rigid cell wall made of cellulose, and fungi one of chitin, so most viruses can get inside these cells only after trauma to the cell wall.[94] However, nearly all plant viruses (such as tobacco mosaic virus) can also move directly from cell to cell, in the form of single-stranded nucleoprotein complexes, through pores called plasmodesmata.[95] Bacteria, like plants, have strong cell walls that a virus must breach to infect the cell. However, given that bacterial cell walls are much less thick than plant cell walls due to their much smaller size, some viruses have evolved mechanisms that inject their genome into the bacterial cell across the cell wall, while the viral capsid remains outside.[96] Uncoating is a process in which the viral capsid is removed: This may be by degradation by viral enzymes or host enzymes or by simple dissociation; the end-result is the releasing of the viral genomic nucleic acid. Replication of viruses involves primarily multiplication of the genome. Replication involves synthesis of viral messenger RNA (mRNA) from "early" genes (with exceptions for positive sense RNA viruses), viral protein synthesis, possible assembly of viral proteins, then viral genome replication mediated by early or regulatory protein expression. This may be followed, for complex viruses with larger genomes, by one or more further rounds of mRNA synthesis: "late" gene expression is, in general, of structural or virion proteins. Assembly – Following the structure-mediated self-assembly of the virus particles, some modification of the proteins often occurs. In viruses such as HIV, this modification (sometimes called maturation) occurs after the virus has been released from the host cell.[97] Release – Viruses can be released from the host cell by lysis, a process that kills the cell by bursting its membrane and cell wall if present: This is a feature of many bacterial and some animal viruses. Some viruses undergo a lysogenic cycle where the viral genome is incorporated by genetic recombination into a specific place in the host's chromosome. The viral genome is then known as a "provirus" or, in the case of bacteriophages a "prophage".[98] Whenever the host divides, the viral genome is also replicated. The viral genome is mostly silent within the host; however, at some point, the provirus or prophage may give rise to active virus, which may lyse the host cells.[99] Enveloped viruses (e.g., HIV) typically are released from the host cell by budding. During this process the virus acquires its envelope, which is a modified piece of the host's plasma or other, internal membrane.[100]
They use chemical and physical phenomena but they are essentially invading and taking over information driven systems in host cells. KFkairosfocus
May 13, 2015
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kairosfocus:
Carpathian, reprogramming cells by injecting — literally — information from external devices is very common. Viruses. The computer ones were named by analogy. KF
What you are injecting is chemistry. When I use the terms "download" and "program", I mean information only. When I program a PROM or rewrite a FLASH chip, I inject nothing materiel into the chip, only the "data" changes. That is why I say that the analogy with intelligent computing devices is not accurate. When you load a new operating system on a computer you do not open the hard drive and physically replace the platter.Carpathian
May 13, 2015
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Zachriel, Very well. We misread the end.mike1962
May 13, 2015
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Zachriel: If they ever detect such a signal, then they will certainly study its properties, including the possibility that it encodes some message. mike1962: I can understand why you might want to keep ignoring the bit about “existence of coded information on the signal.” Zachriel
May 13, 2015
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Zachriel, I can understand why you might want to keep ignoring the bit about "existence of coded information on the signal."mike1962
May 13, 2015
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Zach
They aren’t searching for a disembodied designer,
ID is not searching for a disembodied designer - Yes, very good.Silver Asiatic
May 13, 2015
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Silver Asiatic: SETI is looking for evidence of design, from unknown, probably non-human designers, based on knowledge of and comparison with human design. They aren't searching for a disembodied designer, but have based the search on the hypothesis that technological organisms evolved on planets orbiting stars, much as they have on Earth. mike1962: Other tell-tale characteristics include a signal that is completely polarized or the existence of coded information on the signal. Much as SETI would love to detect TV reruns from an alien civilization, what they are actually attempting is to detect narrow-band radio signals or optical bursts. If they ever detect such a signal, then they will certainly study its properties, including the possibility that it encodes some message.Zachriel
May 13, 2015
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mike1962: That’s why SETI is looking for coded information. Zachriel: SETI is looking for a narrow-band radio signal emanating from a star system, based on knowledge of human evolution and technology.
That's one thing they're looking for. I quoted another, from the very same page you cited. Here it is again in case you didn't see it:
How do you know if you’ve detected an intelligent, extraterrestrial signal? The main feature distinguishing signals produced by a transmitter from those produced by natural processes is their spectral width, i.e. how much room on the radio dial do they take up? Any signal less than about 300 Hz wide must be, as far as we know, artificially produced. Such narrow-band signals are what all SETI experiments look for. Other tell-tale characteristics include a signal that is completely polarized or the existence of coded information on the signal.
http://www.seti.org/faq#obs9mike1962
May 13, 2015
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Zach
SETI is looking for a narrow-band radio signal emanating from a star system, based on knowledge of human evolution and technology.
SETI is looking for evidence of design, from unknown, probably non-human designers, based on knowledge of and comparison with human design. We know you understand that.Silver Asiatic
May 13, 2015
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mike1962: That’s why SETI is looking for coded information. SETI is looking for a narrow-band radio signal emanating from a star system, based on knowledge of human evolution and technology. http://www.seti.org/faq#obs3Zachriel
May 13, 2015
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Carpathian:
That is why the blind chance argument is not plausible and is not being made by evolutionists.
When it comes to the origin of systems capable of evolution what are they left with, other than blind chance? Carpathian:
That is why the blind chance argument is not plausible and is not being made by evolutionists.
So they appeal to blind chance plus what? Whatever it is, it's no more plausible than blind chance and in many cases actually does reduce to blind chance.Mung
May 12, 2015
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Carpathian, reprogramming cells by injecting -- literally -- information from external devices is very common. Viruses. The computer ones were named by analogy. KFkairosfocus
May 12, 2015
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Carpathian,
If someone could show me a device that can load data into a cell like a PROM programmer burns data into a chip, I would be more inclined to agree there is a designer.
Actually it's the other way around. EPROMS are many trillions of times less complicated than a cell. And epigenetic information does indeed respond to the environment. Ask yourself what it would take to convince you otherwise---simpler technology or more complex? Does it have to appear designed by the limited capabilities of humans? What would it take? A slightly advanced EPROM programmer embedded in the Permian? -QQuerius
May 12, 2015
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Carpathian: Oddly, it seems you may have fallen into word magic. Valence shell electron interactions typically several eV tend to be involved in electrical, optical and chemical interactions, as well as elastic behaviour etc. The atoms are blind to the labels we attach and in fact these factors can readily mix and match, e.g. rusting is chemical but stress and electricity contribute, etc. The atoms don;t care about labels. Now, what happens in /DNA chains is the chaining is a covalent bond, and the informational content is essentially prong height that leads to key-lock fitting (similar to a zipper) and weaker interactions. That comes out in the two complementary chains of DNA, and in codon-anticodon fitting in the ribosome. The 3-letter codon-anticodon bond allows a loaded tRNA to add its amino acid to the elongating protein. But here is the trick: the tool tip end that holds the AA is universal, it is CCA. Which AA is fitted is NOT chemically determined. That depends on what for simplicity we can term the loading enzyme that detects the tRNA conformation and puts in place the right AA. (This has been used to modify what certain tRNAs do, to create artificial proteins.) So, the AA to be loaded in sequence using the CCA tool tip of a tRNA depends on a code assignment, not on the varying chemistry of the CCA-AA bond. So, we see codes that depend on the particular states from 64 possibilities of three four-state elements, i.e. 4^3. Now, too, many people who are not technically educated concerning digital systems imagine that digital is practically synonymous with binary digital. Not so, digital strictly means discrete state, as I already outlined. For instance in the USSR, 3-state digital computers were implemented, and I just now pulled from my shelf, my copy of S I Yablonski's Intro to Discrete Math, Mir, which inter alia develops the mathematics of k-valued logic. That R/DNA uses a 4-state logic and codes based on that is an instantiation of k-valued logic, not a mere analogy to common 2-valued logic. No, there is a whole Mathematics of k-valued logic out there that applies. So, please drop the dismissible analogy talking point. Similarly, a signal is some physical variable (broad sense) that based on possible configuration, can bear information. When the signal is continuous state it is analogue, when it is discrete state . . . k-valued in the general sense, it is digital. By chaining sufficient digital elements sufficiently quickly, any analogue signal can be reduced to a digital form. Discussion on digital elements in a world of digital signal processing is WLOG. And some things are inherently digital, alphanumerical symbol strings and the like for instance such as we use for text in English in this blog thread. The 1's and 0's of object code, machine language is like that also. And mRNA is machine code used to drive the NC process in the ribosome to synthesise proteins. Not, is analogous, INSTANTIATES. Now, you may find this hard to swallow, but that is not even seriously controversial unless the issues of its implications for OOL and OOBP are on the table because we are talking of complex algorithms that make exactingly specific functional elements at the heart of cell based life. To give you a picture of just how much this is code not chemistry, there are variant forms of the protein code for diverse life forms and notoriously, there is a distinct mitochondrial code right there in the same cell. That is there are different codes running in different parts of the same living cell. (E.g. Note 25 listed variants here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_codes ) And of course, deterministic chemistry would precisely undermine the configurational flexibility required to store information. So, we are dealing with digitally coded, functionally specific information -- dFSCI -- in protein synthesis that is algorithmic and based on a four-state base element, usually represented as GCAT/U. It is a key part of a discrete state controlled process, and is also part of a communication system. And trying to side-step that only inadvertently highlights just how powerful and telling that is. KFkairosfocus
May 12, 2015
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There is no evidence that life was designed
A coded system like the DNA-codon/Ribosome system is a strong indicator of intelligent design. Blind chemical forces are not known to produce such a system. Intelligence is. That's why SETI is looking for coded information.
That is why the blind chance argument is not plausible and is not being made by evolutionists.
I didn't say anything about "evolutionists."mike1962
May 12, 2015
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kairosfocus:
To describe a fact and to recognise what it instantiates is not word magic.
That is what I have an issue with. The actual workings of biology are chemical. We describe those processes as digital and it is a great analogy. We cannot however then take that analogy and claim the analogy to be a factual process. Gene splicing works because of chemistry, not by downloading new "digital codes". If someone could show me a device that can load data into a cell like a PROM programmer burns data into a chip, I would be more inclined to agree there is a designer. The reality however, is more mechanical.Carpathian
May 12, 2015
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mike1962:
Something invented the DNA/ribosome coding system. The question is whether or not it is more plausible that an intelligence did it, or blind chemical forces. All this has been hashed out in previous threads. I suggest you peruse them.
I agree with most of what you say and I've been following the threads for years. Blind chemical forces is not a quite accurate description though of the way nature works. Blind chance is not allowed by nature. You could never have two magnets fall on the floor and end up in a configuration where the two north poles are together. There is no evidence that life was designed though there is a lot that quite rightly indicates that it is highly improbable to have occurred through blind chance. That is why the blind chance argument is not plausible and is not being made by evolutionists.Carpathian
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Carpathian: As a description digital code is fine provided we realize it is simply a good description of what we see, not why it is there.
Right. And if SETI finds coded information in a signal from deep space they have no reason to plausibly infer an intelligent source, right?
How do you know if you’ve detected an intelligent, extraterrestrial signal? The main feature distinguishing signals produced by a transmitter from those produced by natural processes is their spectral width, i.e. how much room on the radio dial do they take up? Any signal less than about 300 Hz wide must be, as far as we know, artificially produced. Such narrow-band signals are what all SETI experiments look for. Other tell-tale characteristics [of intelligence] include a signal that is completely polarized or the existence of coded information on the signal.
We cannot say that after we have labelled something as “code” there must be a “coder”.
Something invented the DNA/ribosome coding system. The question is whether or not it is more plausible that an intelligence did it, or blind chemical forces. All this has been hashed out in previous threads. I suggest you peruse them.mike1962
May 12, 2015
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Carpathian, essentially everything around you is atomic and interactions that are within the energy ranges of the valence band electrons are in large part chemical or electrical. That does not prevent them from also being used to create a code based on 4-state chained string data structure elements, that is used algorithmically to effect protein synthesis for one. To describe a fact and to recognise what it instantiates is not word magic. And in fact, save in this sort of no concessions or we are lost context this is not even controversial. So, ironically, we can take the fact of the sort of selective hyperskepticism that surfaces when this is pointed out, to show just how strong the argument really is. KFkairosfocus
May 12, 2015
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kairosfocus:
Refusal to acknowledge something so foundational to modern molecular biology (and with a Nobel Prize or two earned in elucidating it) is revealing. KF
I have no problem with how we describe biological functionality but that doesn't mean our labeling leads to a conclusion based on that labeling. We could describe the entire process as it actually happens chemically.Carpathian
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kairosfocus: A very good description. Again, my problem is with first labeling something and then using the label to draw a conclusion. Life is chemical first, regardless of the label applied. We cannot say that after we have labelled something as "code" there must be a "coder".Carpathian
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mike1962:
So of course, DNA nucleotides are rightly called digital for the same reason that computer bits are. DNA nucleotides are digital.
That is a very good description and I agree with you. What I don't agree with is then using that label of digital code and implying that there must therefore be a designer of said code. As a description digital code is fine provided we realize it is simply a good description of what we see, not why it is there.Carpathian
May 12, 2015
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Carpathian, it is not labels but observed code and algorithm based organised, specific function -- e.g. in Ribosomes that assemble proteins step by step based on use of the coded strings -- that is driving the conclusion. Refusal to acknowledge something so foundational to modern molecular biology (and with a Nobel Prize or two earned in elucidating it) is revealing. KFkairosfocus
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Phinehas:
Two plus two is not four simply because of the terminology we use.”
You are talking of scalar values here, not labels. Labels are a different story as you could never add "digital plus digital" and get a value. We could still re-label the scalar value of 2 as "five" and the scalar value of 4 to "three". It would then be appropriate to say, "five plus five equals three". While the labels would have changed, the scalar values would not have. In the case of describing as something chemical as being digital, I would have no problem with that if that labeling was simply for descriptive purposes. That's not the case though when those labels are then used as a means of concluding function.Carpathian
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M62, That's because of course that is how the Romans counted, so we had I, II, III, IIII, V, the last for the Vee of the spread out fingers. X is two V's back to back. Things like IV and IX came later I am told. The generalisation to discrete state is obvious. And we can talk of octal, duodecimal, hexadecimal and of course the sexagesimal system that we still recall with our clocks. My students always giggled when that one was called in the first lecture in digital electronics. BTW, I used a rope vs a ladder to show the difference between discrete and continuous state entities, as in there is no defined position between the rungs. KFkairosfocus
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"Digital" comes from "digit" which comes from the Latin meaning "finger" or "toe." We refer to computer numbers as digital because they have discrete states, like humans have discrete fingers. Each nucleotide can be one of four chemicals, a discrete number of possibilities. Then arranged into groups of three, for a one-in-64 "codon" which are interpreted by the ribosomes to construct amino acids. (So-called "junk DNA" may have random values.) So of course, DNA nucleotides are rightly called digital for the same reason that computer bits are. DNA nucleotides are digital.mike1962
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Carpathian: Digital denotes discrete state (as opposed to continuous) and the 4-state per base D/RNA chain qualifies. It further qualifies as manifesting codes based on discrete state elements, and as encoding algorithmic, step by step goal directed instructions . . . a form of prescriptive information. The system it is a part of is a discrete state control system, and it is in addition a communication system. Those terms describe objective states of affairs familiar from the world of technology, not mere ideas projected onto the outer world. KF PS: In one of his descriptions of a self replicating kinematic automaton, von Neumann described a prong height code, which is in turn similar to braille code, Yale type lock keys and punched paper tapes. And indeed that is exactly how R/DNA codes information using side chains to provide the prong heights. The real full-up chemical bonds are involved in the backbone chaining, at 90 degrees to the coded info.kairosfocus
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