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Something else everyone should know about climate alarmism

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A thought re Barry Arrington’s thread, MIT Atmospheric Physicist Explains What Everyone Should Know about Climate Alarmism:

Maybe we are missing the real problem: In itself, global warming is just the latest a-crock-alypse by which green daycare moms compete in the middle class virtue stakes.

And swindlers get rich. But what’s new there? We can be glad when the swindlers are not also murderers. They sometimes are.

But readers, do consider the readiness with which Heat Doom morphs into a state religion, giving proponents the right to persecute dissenters. With so much money and power at stake, too.

Cf Bill Nye open to jail time for climate change skeptics

It’s most likely that the problem will be exported to other science areas. Not necessarily ours in particular, because not much is at stake here.

Bluntly, it wouldn’t matter if the entire field of, for example, human palaeontology, were a Piltdown Theme Park.

Darwin’s theory is one of the Big Explains of popular culture. Showing that it is a train wreck within an obscure discipline likely makes no difference.

Who reads anyway these days? Bimbette has way more viewers than Aristotle or Darwin or anyone else ever had readers. And she Knows, and so will her successors, that Evolution Is True (whatever that means).

A bigger problem is the implicit assumption that government is in the business of determining science facts for the purpose of punishing dissenters. Many in government would welcome the role; much can be slid under so ample a carpet.

Such a tool can be used against any discipline of science if powerful political or financial interests sense a risk.

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Andre, if it is about money, explain to the group again who academic researchers get suckered into this? They put in over a decade of poorly paid grunt-work to then do slightly better paid grunt work once they become a prof. In the meantime their buddies from undergrad and grad school are out-earning them 3:1? This has got to be the most idiotic claim about 'climate alarmism' out there. (Of course some folks will see this as a challenge and make an even more idiotic claim.)hrun0815
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It's called money..... and it's about the love of it! On a serious note there is quite a history to this.... Al Gore was a student of Revelle. Revelle wrote one of the first papers about the possible link between CO2 and global warming. When Revelle later published that there was no link Al Gore was already sold that it is true. Al Gore called his own mentor a senile old man after Revelle published those results. The rest is history. Money makes people do very strange things and even though money in itself is not evil the love of money certainly is.Andre
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10 hrun0815April 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm Re #9: Of course it is not true. It’s ridiculous on its face. Why would anybody go through getting a phd, postdoc, and fighting for a faculty position for a meager salary of an assistant prof? Maybe I should have included a [sarc] in post #3? Around here, you probably shouldvelikovskys
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Re #13: So you are saying that Gore and the Carbon Billionaire(s) are the ones who are perpetrating this fraud? And they are getting all the researchers that actually drive the science to cooperate how?hrun0815
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hrun0815 Al Gore 2007 - In 2013 the polar ice caps will be gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-SV13UQXdk Carbon Billionaire http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/06/26/al-gore-sells-his-soul-to-big-carbon-again/ http://www.wnd.com/2007/03/40445/ http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Al-Gores-Hipocrisy-The-Climate-Crusader-Profits-from-Fossil-Fuels.html P.S. The Ice caps are still there.......Andre
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So where is it, News? The research is driven by countless academic researchers ranging from students to tenured faculty (who by the way still only earn a fraction of what they could earn in the open market)? Or are you now arguing that the fraud is perpetuated by a one class (the academic researchers) and the benefits are reaped by another (solar panel producers or some other economic "powerhouse")? Instead of speaking in some cryptic innuendo, tell us explicitly what you mean? My guess is, of course, that you won't. It's so much easier to cast aspersions with some nebulous reference to money and power rather than spelling out how exactly the researchers in question get said money and power. I sure as hell would like to know. It would open up a whole new career path in academia that currently only a handful of evolutionists and climate fraudsters are aware of.hrun0815
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Presumably, comment stream 7 through 10 thinks the entire public so naive that no one realizes the obvious: The big money is hardly in assistant profship! No, cut loose, those people would just be baristas or teaching school somewhere. For the record, the big money is in alliances of government and industry forwarding approved or legislated goals, especially those that can be marketed under the label of Virtue. How much of it is good science is an unrelated matter. Your Honour, I now call Nutrition Science to the stand!News
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Re #9: Of course it is not true. It's ridiculous on its face. Why would anybody go through getting a phd, postdoc, and fighting for a faculty position for a meager salary of an assistant prof? Maybe I should have included a [sarc] in post #3?hrun0815
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Hrun Well, actually they work at Wall Street. That’s where the big bucks are. But seriously, the idea that you work yourself through college, graduate degrees, post-doc, and then the exhausting fight to land a faculty position because then you can make serious cash by faking man-made global warming is just so crazy that it simply defies common sense. Have you considered it defies common sense because it is not true? That they are not faking it and the money is not that great for the amount of college you have to go thru. How much money do you think climate researchers make? Median pay is about 87,000. Or 43 bucks a hour. Tenured professors about 120,000. How much you think the Heartland Institute pays its skeptics?velikovskys
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Re #7: Well, actually they work at Wall Street. That's where the big bucks are. But seriously, the idea that you work yourself through college, graduate degrees, post-doc, and then the exhausting fight to land a faculty position because then you can make serious cash by faking man-made global warming is just so crazy that it simply defies common sense.hrun0815
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hrun: Because everybody knows that the best way for scrupulous swindlers to get rich is to go into academic research. the unscrupulous swindlers, on the other hand ,work for right wing think tanksvelikovskys
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wd400 at 5, mums and bimbettes are not unrepresentatively gullible, but some deal with them more often than others, and it is best to speak from experience.News
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Truth Will Set You Free, I'm afraid you are misinformed. I don't think the parenthetical is silly -- do the opinons of women matter less than the opiions of men? If not why single out mums and bimbettes?wd400
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wd400 @1, you can't seriously tell me that you are unaware of the significant controversy among scientists on the issue of man-made global warming. The "science" is far from settled, no matter what scientific journal/society tells you otherwise. Also, shame on you for your silly parenthetical. You people will not be happy until you make everyone see the world and speak the same way you do. It used to be harmless drivel that we could easily ignore, but now it is getting dangerous for all who believe in true freedom.Truth Will Set You Free
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Because everybody knows that the best way for scrupulous swindlers to get rich is to go into academic research.hrun0815
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Earth Day is coming up…
In the May 2000 issue of Reason Magazine, award-winning science correspondent Ronald Bailey wrote an excellent article titled “Earth Day, Then and Now” to provide some historical perspective on the 30th anniversary of Earth Day. In that article, Bailey noted that around the time of the first Earth Day, and in the years following, there was a “torrent of apocalyptic predictions” and many of those predictions were featured in his Reason article. - (from 2015): 18 spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year
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n itself, global warming is just the latest a-crock-alypse by which green daycare moms compete in the middle class virtue stakes.
Do you actually believe the thing you type? Or think about them? All the major scientific societies of the world, thousands of climate scientists, NASA and the US Department of Defence are just trying to show how green they are by caring about climate change? Or they've been sucked in by daycare mums? (why mums and not dads, btw?)wd400
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