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		<title>By: tb</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/the-richard-dawkins-foundation-for-reason-science/comment-page-1/#comment-68402</link>
		<dc:creator>tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DharmaBum said:

&quot;Dr. Dembski:
    Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ will receive three of my books autographed. What a deal. Think it over.

Sorry no one got your joke. It hinges on the reader recognizing the egomaniacism of expecting to obtain professional design services for just three of your autographed books. The outrageousness of this is driven home by the fact that you have offered relatively nice cash awards in other contexts. And I certainly wondered if Ã¢â‚¬Å“think about itÃ¢â‚¬Â were a double entendre when I first read it.&quot;

I think DpharaBum is right, now that I think obout it. RDs page is all about RD and his egomania! Especially his quotes on the sidebar I find very creepy :)

 Nice design on the ironic joke here :) even though I didn&#039;t get it. I need to work on my design detection :)

Maybe RD should learn how to be a humble athiest, but if you are God yourself (allknowing at least) why should you practice any humbleness towards anybody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DharmaBum said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dr. Dembski:<br />
    Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ will receive three of my books autographed. What a deal. Think it over.</p>
<p>Sorry no one got your joke. It hinges on the reader recognizing the egomaniacism of expecting to obtain professional design services for just three of your autographed books. The outrageousness of this is driven home by the fact that you have offered relatively nice cash awards in other contexts. And I certainly wondered if Ã¢â‚¬Å“think about itÃ¢â‚¬Â were a double entendre when I first read it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think DpharaBum is right, now that I think obout it. RDs page is all about RD and his egomania! Especially his quotes on the sidebar I find very creepy <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Nice design on the ironic joke here <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  even though I didn&#8217;t get it. I need to work on my design detection <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe RD should learn how to be a humble athiest, but if you are God yourself (allknowing at least) why should you practice any humbleness towards anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: late_model</title>
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		<dc:creator>late_model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember this is a blog with comments vs. a website.  There is a difference.  One feature that would be nice and add some interactivity ( by voting) for most popular posts.</description>
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		<title>By: Ekstasis</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/the-richard-dawkins-foundation-for-reason-science/comment-page-1/#comment-68327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekstasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawkins&#039; site has a special help and resource line -- for atheists!!  Oh yes, and you will not believe how extensive it is.

OK, so, an anti-religion list, what is the big deal?  Doesn&#039;t he have every right to promote these groups?  Oh, sure.  But, just picture this for a quick moment -- UD providing a list of pro-religion groups.  UD would be tarred and feathered on the spot.  Why, that would be conclusive proof that ID is religion, not science.  Accusations would fly.  Our kids would lose all interest in science and join monasteries.  The courts would have to jump in and save the day yet again.  And who knows what else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawkins&#8217; site has a special help and resource line &#8212; for atheists!!  Oh yes, and you will not believe how extensive it is.</p>
<p>OK, so, an anti-religion list, what is the big deal?  Doesn&#8217;t he have every right to promote these groups?  Oh, sure.  But, just picture this for a quick moment &#8212; UD providing a list of pro-religion groups.  UD would be tarred and feathered on the spot.  Why, that would be conclusive proof that ID is religion, not science.  Accusations would fly.  Our kids would lose all interest in science and join monasteries.  The courts would have to jump in and save the day yet again.  And who knows what else.</p>
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		<title>By: Borne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for upgrading this site - I have to agree with the comments offered so far.  

Ya, I&#039;m an IT pro too and have designed and built  sites for various cie&#039;s and government sectors.

Dawkin&#039;s site is definitely too cluttered and I like the comment that said it looks like he&#039;s running for office.  Perhaps more truly he wants to be god himself. ;-) (&quot;everyone in your world wants to be Maleldil&quot; - CS Lewis, Out of the  Silent Planet)

Whatever, the thing that would make this site look better is pro quality images and decor.  It&#039;s a tad too bland IMO.

The feel and usability are fairly good already.  The &quot;leave a comment&quot; box is way too small though and needs some tools added.  

This box should always have the text format tools available unless a user checks an off option. Or at least some guide to codes for text formatting, smileys, block quoting etc. - placed right next to the box.

This site has the look and feel of a regular blog so it&#039;s already great for that.  Add some better pics, a little more color &amp; decoration and you&#039;ll have done most of a very nice upgrade already.

BTW, Wordpress - mentioned at the bottom of the pages here - has some very nice blog templates that would do very well.  Just add sugar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for upgrading this site &#8211; I have to agree with the comments offered so far.  </p>
<p>Ya, I&#8217;m an IT pro too and have designed and built  sites for various cie&#8217;s and government sectors.</p>
<p>Dawkin&#8217;s site is definitely too cluttered and I like the comment that said it looks like he&#8217;s running for office.  Perhaps more truly he wants to be god himself. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (&#8220;everyone in your world wants to be Maleldil&#8221; &#8211; CS Lewis, Out of the  Silent Planet)</p>
<p>Whatever, the thing that would make this site look better is pro quality images and decor.  It&#8217;s a tad too bland IMO.</p>
<p>The feel and usability are fairly good already.  The &#8220;leave a comment&#8221; box is way too small though and needs some tools added.  </p>
<p>This box should always have the text format tools available unless a user checks an off option. Or at least some guide to codes for text formatting, smileys, block quoting etc. &#8211; placed right next to the box.</p>
<p>This site has the look and feel of a regular blog so it&#8217;s already great for that.  Add some better pics, a little more color &amp; decoration and you&#8217;ll have done most of a very nice upgrade already.</p>
<p>BTW, WordPress &#8211; mentioned at the bottom of the pages here &#8211; has some very nice blog templates that would do very well.  Just add sugar.</p>
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		<title>By: DharmaBum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DharmaBum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Dembski:
&lt;blockquote&gt;... will receive three of my books autographed. What a deal. Think it over.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sorry no one got your joke. It hinges on the reader recognizing the egomaniacism of expecting to obtain professional design services for just three of your &lt;i&gt;autographed&lt;/i&gt; books. The outrageousness of this is driven home by the fact that you have offered relatively nice cash awards in other contexts. And I certainly wondered if &quot;think about it&quot; were a double entendre when I first read it.

You are no egomaniac. So why did readers of this blog fail to realize that you had gone over the top? Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Dembski:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; will receive three of my books autographed. What a deal. Think it over.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry no one got your joke. It hinges on the reader recognizing the egomaniacism of expecting to obtain professional design services for just three of your <i>autographed</i> books. The outrageousness of this is driven home by the fact that you have offered relatively nice cash awards in other contexts. And I certainly wondered if &#8220;think about it&#8221; were a double entendre when I first read it.</p>
<p>You are no egomaniac. So why did readers of this blog fail to realize that you had gone over the top? Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: EdH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That site only has the appearance of design.  That is just the result of random HTML mutations selected out by &quot;browsing selection.&quot; I am sure, in time, this site will evolve in its own good time. You won&#039;t observe it though. One morning you&#039;ll wake up and it&#039;ll just be different. You&#039;ll sit back, sip your cup of coffee and think &quot;Hmmm.... long periods of statis interrupted by rapid changes.&quot; THen you can come up with a name for it, like, oh, I don&#039;t know... punctuated equilibrium or something similarly cool sounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That site only has the appearance of design.  That is just the result of random HTML mutations selected out by &#8220;browsing selection.&#8221; I am sure, in time, this site will evolve in its own good time. You won&#8217;t observe it though. One morning you&#8217;ll wake up and it&#8217;ll just be different. You&#8217;ll sit back, sip your cup of coffee and think &#8220;Hmmm&#8230;. long periods of statis interrupted by rapid changes.&#8221; THen you can come up with a name for it, like, oh, I don&#8217;t know&#8230; punctuated equilibrium or something similarly cool sounding.</p>
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		<title>By: sagebrush gardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>sagebrush gardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a full-time web programmer/sysadmin and part-time web designer, I second the comments above.  Dawkin&#039;s site is much too busy.  (Remember - everything you create you have to maintain.)  I like the simplicity and clear focus of UD and I like to see our effort going into quality content and not getting distracted with eye candy.  Just one suggestion &#8212; Denyse&#039;s photo at the top of the page doesn&#039;t do her justice.  A better picture there would brighten things up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a full-time web programmer/sysadmin and part-time web designer, I second the comments above.  Dawkin&#8217;s site is much too busy.  (Remember &#8211; everything you create you have to maintain.)  I like the simplicity and clear focus of UD and I like to see our effort going into quality content and not getting distracted with eye candy.  Just one suggestion &mdash; Denyse&#8217;s photo at the top of the page doesn&#8217;t do her justice.  A better picture there would brighten things up.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That site looks terrible.  The top name heading makes it look like he&#039;s running for office.
Also, there&#039;s just too much &#039;stuff&#039; going on with the front page.  It gives me a headache looking at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That site looks terrible.  The top name heading makes it look like he&#8217;s running for office.<br />
Also, there&#8217;s just too much &#8216;stuff&#8217; going on with the front page.  It gives me a headache looking at it.</p>
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		<title>By: tb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have &quot;The Dog Delusion&quot; when I look at RDs page! Or did I get something backward? I am sorry there was no Dog!

BTW. Dr. Dembski why would you want UD page look like RDs page? I don&#039;t want UD look athiestic, do you?

Still I would say that UD could look a bit prettier! :) Could I do it? I think I could, but I ain&#039;t got time for it!  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have &#8220;The Dog Delusion&#8221; when I look at RDs page! Or did I get something backward? I am sorry there was no Dog!</p>
<p>BTW. Dr. Dembski why would you want UD page look like RDs page? I don&#8217;t want UD look athiestic, do you?</p>
<p>Still I would say that UD could look a bit prettier! <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Could I do it? I think I could, but I ain&#8217;t got time for it!  <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sladjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sladjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>off-topic (sort of):

http://richarddawkins.net/article,129,Natural-lsquoKnowledgersquo-and-Natural-lsquoDesignrsquo,Richard-Dawkins

&quot;A spider doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know how to make a web as a fisherman knows how to make a net. Spider genes are a recipe for legs, muscles and spinnerets, together with a brain whose wiring diagram causes it to manipulate muscles in such a way that a web automatically results. The spider ? presumably ? knows nothing of webs or flies, any more than you knew how to build yourself during your nine months of unconscious gestation. Genes literally donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know anything, but in a powerful sense they store knowledge about environments from the ancestral past.&quot;

Especially for the last sentence: I don&#039;t understand how NDE folks can appreciate such kind of non-sense... Where is the scientific explanation to this ? Where are the experiments which testifies that information can be acquired and chemically coded by non-guided, mindless processes ?... 

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on-topic:

Same comment as DaveScot (#14).
I don&#039;t think you need to change something on UD...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off-topic (sort of):</p>
<p><a href="http://richarddawkins.net/article,129,Natural-lsquoKnowledgersquo-and-Natural-lsquoDesignrsquo,Richard-Dawkins" rel="nofollow">http://richarddawkins.net/arti.....rd-Dawkins</a></p>
<p>&#8220;A spider doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know how to make a web as a fisherman knows how to make a net. Spider genes are a recipe for legs, muscles and spinnerets, together with a brain whose wiring diagram causes it to manipulate muscles in such a way that a web automatically results. The spider ? presumably ? knows nothing of webs or flies, any more than you knew how to build yourself during your nine months of unconscious gestation. Genes literally donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know anything, but in a powerful sense they store knowledge about environments from the ancestral past.&#8221;</p>
<p>Especially for the last sentence: I don&#8217;t understand how NDE folks can appreciate such kind of non-sense&#8230; Where is the scientific explanation to this ? Where are the experiments which testifies that information can be acquired and chemically coded by non-guided, mindless processes ?&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>on-topic:</p>
<p>Same comment as DaveScot (#14).<br />
I don&#8217;t think you need to change something on UD&#8230;</p>
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