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		<title>By: DiEb</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340806</link>
		<dc:creator>DiEb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mung,
indeed, that was me, my &lt;i&gt;problem&lt;/i&gt; with the vector-valued integration (section IV) only plays a role for the calculation of &#920;_0 - and no one wants to calculate that, as Theorem IV implicitly starts with &#920;_1. W. Dembski swiftly addressed this &lt;i&gt;concern&lt;/i&gt;, I saw my error, and apologized for the inconveniences I caused. 
That leaves my main &lt;i&gt;problem&lt;/i&gt; with the article unanswered: the definition of a search (section I-III) - for me, looking for arbitrary sets in &#937;^m describes &lt;i&gt;guesses&lt;/i&gt; and not &lt;i&gt;searches&lt;/i&gt;, and my &lt;i&gt;concerns&lt;/i&gt; about the HNFL theorem stem from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mung,<br />
indeed, that was me, my <i>problem</i> with the vector-valued integration (section IV) only plays a role for the calculation of &Theta;_0 &#8211; and no one wants to calculate that, as Theorem IV implicitly starts with &Theta;_1. W. Dembski swiftly addressed this <i>concern</i>, I saw my error, and apologized for the inconveniences I caused.<br />
That leaves my main <i>problem</i> with the article unanswered: the definition of a search (section I-III) &#8211; for me, looking for arbitrary sets in &Omega;^m describes <i>guesses</i> and not <i>searches</i>, and my <i>concerns</i> about the HNFL theorem stem from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340796</link>
		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DiEb, this was you, right?
&lt;blockquote&gt;you are right about the vector-valued integration – and therefore, I was wrong: I saw a problem where none was. My apologies to you, and to P. Olofsson whom I may have lead astray with my previous comment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DiEb, this was you, right?</p>
<blockquote><p>you are right about the vector-valued integration – and therefore, I was wrong: I saw a problem where none was. My apologies to you, and to P. Olofsson whom I may have lead astray with my previous comment.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: DiEb</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340661</link>
		<dc:creator>DiEb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Enezio E. De Almeida Filho:
I don&#039;t understand your question: R. Marks&#039;s and W. Dembski&#039;s paper isn&#039;t even published, but you except a &lt;i&gt;scientific paper&lt;/i&gt; as an answer to them already?
After reading their draft, I tried to make R. Marks and W. Dembski aware of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/The_Search_for_a_Search_-_Measuring_the_Information_Cost_of_Higher_Level_Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;problem with their concept of guess/search&lt;/a&gt;. I suppose that any reviewer will stumble upon the same thing -  whether you want to call it a &lt;i&gt;concern&lt;/i&gt;, a &lt;i&gt;problem&lt;/i&gt;, or a &lt;i&gt;gotcha&lt;/i&gt; is up to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Enezio E. De Almeida Filho:<br />
I don&#8217;t understand your question: R. Marks&#8217;s and W. Dembski&#8217;s paper isn&#8217;t even published, but you except a <i>scientific paper</i> as an answer to them already?<br />
After reading their draft, I tried to make R. Marks and W. Dembski aware of a <a href="http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/The_Search_for_a_Search_-_Measuring_the_Information_Cost_of_Higher_Level_Search" rel="nofollow">problem with their concept of guess/search</a>. I suppose that any reviewer will stumble upon the same thing &#8211;  whether you want to call it a <i>concern</i>, a <i>problem</i>, or a <i>gotcha</i> is up to you.</p>
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		<title>By: osteonectin</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340633</link>
		<dc:creator>osteonectin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and now the journal is two years behind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Accepting publications and then delaying the publishing process is annoying and can not be accepted. Thus, it would be appreciable if the name of the journal in question could be disclosed. Other researcher would then have the chance to omit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and now the journal is two years behind.</p></blockquote>
<p>Accepting publications and then delaying the publishing process is annoying and can not be accepted. Thus, it would be appreciable if the name of the journal in question could be disclosed. Other researcher would then have the chance to omit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340606</link>
		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was accepted at a peer-reviewed journal that was a year behind in its publication schedule. We waited and waited … and waited, and now the journal is two years behind. So we withdrew it and resubmitted to another journal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Dear Dr. Dembski,

I can&#039;t tell you how gratifying it is to see you respond to this. The implication all along has been that you&#039;ve been hiding something.

I would think that even those who are critical of your work might find it of some interest and present more of a helpful attitude and less &quot;gotcha!&quot;

Haha, haha! I know, what have I been smoking?

Here&#039;s a suggestion for your next book:

The Benign Inference: The Bridge  Between Mathematics and Real People.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was accepted at a peer-reviewed journal that was a year behind in its publication schedule. We waited and waited … and waited, and now the journal is two years behind. So we withdrew it and resubmitted to another journal.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dear Dr. Dembski,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how gratifying it is to see you respond to this. The implication all along has been that you&#8217;ve been hiding something.</p>
<p>I would think that even those who are critical of your work might find it of some interest and present more of a helpful attitude and less &#8220;gotcha!&#8221;</p>
<p>Haha, haha! I know, what have I been smoking?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion for your next book:</p>
<p>The Benign Inference: The Bridge  Between Mathematics and Real People.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clive Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enezio, 

I&#039;ve wondered that myself since he is so &quot;concerned.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enezio, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered that myself since he is so &#8220;concerned.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Enezio E. De Almeida Filho</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340581</link>
		<dc:creator>Enezio E. De Almeida Filho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DiEb:

Why don&#039;t you write a scientific paper on this subject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DiEb:</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you write a scientific paper on this subject?</p>
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		<title>By: DiEb</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/tag-team-id-debate-in-beverly-hills/comment-page-1/#comment-340570</link>
		<dc:creator>DiEb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. W. Dembski –
Prof. P. Olofsson, ROb and I are talking about these concern in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dembski-speaking-at-texas-am-thursday-november-12-2009-700pm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. W. Dembski –<br />
Prof. P. Olofsson, ROb and I are talking about these concern in <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/dembski-speaking-at-texas-am-thursday-november-12-2009-700pm/" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DiEb</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiEb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. W. Dembski –
did you address the concerns regarding the &#039;&#039;Horizontal No Free Lunch&#039;&#039; theorem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. W. Dembski –<br />
did you address the concerns regarding the &#8221;Horizontal No Free Lunch&#8221; theorem?</p>
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		<title>By: waterbear</title>
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		<dc:creator>waterbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this debate be recorded and put online for the benefit of those who can&#039;t be there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this debate be recorded and put online for the benefit of those who can&#8217;t be there?</p>
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