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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Intelligent Evolution&#8221; &#8212; If the courts rule against ID &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: wb4</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-31629</link>
		<dc:creator>wb4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think at a fundamental level, in terms of what drives me in this is that I think God&#039;s glory is being robbed by these naturalistic approaches to biological evolution, creation, the origin of the world, the origin of biological complexity and diversity. When you are attributing the wonders of nature to these mindless material mechanisms, God&#039;s glory is getting robbed.  [...]  And so there is a cultural war here. Ultimately I want to see God get the credit for what heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s done - and heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not getting it.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think at a fundamental level, in terms of what drives me in this is that I think God&#8217;s glory is being robbed by these naturalistic approaches to biological evolution, creation, the origin of the world, the origin of biological complexity and diversity. When you are attributing the wonders of nature to these mindless material mechanisms, God&#8217;s glory is getting robbed.  [...]  And so there is a cultural war here. Ultimately I want to see God get the credit for what heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s done &#8211; and heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not getting it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who said that?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wb4:  Assuming sarcasm, that&#039;s warning #1 for yet another mischaracterization argument.  If you&#039;re actually serious I suggest reading the paperback version of The Design Revolution since your ideas about ID are incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wb4:  Assuming sarcasm, that&#8217;s warning #1 for yet another mischaracterization argument.  If you&#8217;re actually serious I suggest reading the paperback version of The Design Revolution since your ideas about ID are incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: wb4</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-20421</link>
		<dc:creator>wb4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, a new name is just what the theory needs to win over the mainstream.  Where else could we possibly be going wrong?  We know the idea has a rock solid foundation, the Bible itself, so effort spent making observations and testing the theory is redundant.

eswrite, reading your comment made me squirm with discomfort.  What were you thinking?  We don&#039;t need to make predictions with ID.  Who are you trying to convince, scientists?  No.  We just need to show how another theory doesn&#039;t explain everything, to cast doubt in the mind of the public, especially members of school boards since it is of primal importance (I mean, hey, why else are we doing this?) that children grow up believing in God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, a new name is just what the theory needs to win over the mainstream.  Where else could we possibly be going wrong?  We know the idea has a rock solid foundation, the Bible itself, so effort spent making observations and testing the theory is redundant.</p>
<p>eswrite, reading your comment made me squirm with discomfort.  What were you thinking?  We don&#8217;t need to make predictions with ID.  Who are you trying to convince, scientists?  No.  We just need to show how another theory doesn&#8217;t explain everything, to cast doubt in the mind of the public, especially members of school boards since it is of primal importance (I mean, hey, why else are we doing this?) that children grow up believing in God.</p>
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		<title>By: macjim</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-20243</link>
		<dc:creator>macjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not go one furthur, and use the title IF? Shouldn&#039;t be too much of a problem sharing the title with the movie. As for the the courtroom problems with the ten commandments, keep taking the tablets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not go one furthur, and use the title IF? Shouldn&#8217;t be too much of a problem sharing the title with the movie. As for the the courtroom problems with the ten commandments, keep taking the tablets.</p>
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		<title>By: EmmaPeel</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-3226</link>
		<dc:creator>EmmaPeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trackback spam. Now I&#8217;ve seen everything!</p>
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		<title>By: discover card</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>discover card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve wondered what are the real-world consequences of high school students learning only non-supernatural theories of biology? 
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Actually I wonder what the consequences of exposing them to the idea that intelligence is a natural attribute of nature and not a supernatural thing of some sort.  It seems melodramatic to suppose this would lead to the collapse of modern civilization.  I&#039;m wondering if it will lead to the collapse of anything at all other than the collapsing of egos of scientists dogmatically opposed to it.

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IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve wondered what are the real-world consequences of high school students learning only non-supernatural theories of biology?
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<p>Actually I wonder what the consequences of exposing them to the idea that intelligence is a natural attribute of nature and not a supernatural thing of some sort.  It seems melodramatic to suppose this would lead to the collapse of modern civilization.  I&#8217;m wondering if it will lead to the collapse of anything at all other than the collapsing of egos of scientists dogmatically opposed to it.</p>
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		<title>By: EmmaPeel</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>EmmaPeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hate seeing our youth dying on the vine, being indoctrinated into a materialistic worldview in the name of science.&lt;/i&gt;

How, exactly, does rejection of supernatural explanations imply youth dying on the vine? Ever since I read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atomicjetpacks.com/bmbcrevo/earlycrscfaq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CRSC&#039;s early &quot;What is Materiaism&quot; FAQ&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve wondered what are the real-world consequences of high school students learning only non-supernatural theories of biology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hate seeing our youth dying on the vine, being indoctrinated into a materialistic worldview in the name of science.</i></p>
<p>How, exactly, does rejection of supernatural explanations imply youth dying on the vine? Ever since I read the <a href="http://www.atomicjetpacks.com/bmbcrevo/earlycrscfaq.html" rel="nofollow">CRSC&#8217;s early &#8220;What is Materiaism&#8221; FAQ</a> I&#8217;ve wondered what are the real-world consequences of high school students learning only non-supernatural theories of biology?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oolong:

Speaking polishing turds did you read the replacement theories for neoDarwinism offered up by &quot;2005 Woodstock of Evolution&quot; star speakers, evolutionary biologistsw extraordinaire William Provine and Lynn Margulis?

It&#039;s a MUST read...

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&amp;articleID=00020722-64FD-12BC-A0E483414B7FFE87&amp;pageNumber=1&amp;catID=4

It&#039;s long and has big words in it.  If you need help with it email me at dspringer56@hotmail.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oolong:</p>
<p>Speaking polishing turds did you read the replacement theories for neoDarwinism offered up by &#8220;2005 Woodstock of Evolution&#8221; star speakers, evolutionary biologistsw extraordinaire William Provine and Lynn Margulis?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a MUST read&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&#038;articleID=00020722-64FD-12BC-A0E483414B7FFE87&#038;pageNumber=1&#038;catID=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciam.com/article.c.....38;catID=4</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s long and has big words in it.  If you need help with it email me at <a href="mailto:dspringer56@hotmail.com">dspringer56@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ooblog  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; ID Falling Apart?</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/intelligent-evolution-if-the-courts-rule-against-id/comment-page-1/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooblog  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; ID Falling Apart?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 17;s just keep polishing that turd, shall we? 	The comments are also enlightening. eswrite writes: 	Rather than engaging in cute semantic games, I suggest we add some pre [...]</description>
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