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		<title>By: Back to Blogging &#187; Nathan&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/id-the-board-game/comment-page-1/#comment-83624</link>
		<dc:creator>Back to Blogging &#187; Nathan&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This was funny, from Bill Dembski over at Uncommon Descent. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michaels7</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/id-the-board-game/comment-page-1/#comment-83272</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaels7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel stated,

&quot;I thought ID was about science. This is fundamentalist religious apologetics. Is this what ID proponents want to be identified with?&quot;

It is not a matter of ID &quot;wanting to be...&quot; anything.     Did you see any endorsement by DI?  

 &quot;(look for &quot;ID - The Movie&quot; next)&quot; gave me a chuckle. It&#039;ll happen and the Darw-k-inist Club will have a fit.  And I hope Kirk Cameron does it, ha! Humor, get it?

&quot;We all have to make choices. And by our choices others will know us.&quot;

Sure, well, my choice is I stand by them.

I truly wonder how most people would react if John the Baptist walked thru our streets today preaching repentance, hell, fire and the Day of the Lord.  A great majority would deny him and say similar remarks.  Yet Christ embraced him as you&#039;ll see.

I&#039;m not so aloft as you to think I&#039;m above these guys whether I agree with all their methods or not.   We are all members of the body of Christ.  What kind of confounded thinking are you putting forth?

Also, Kirk Cameron has done more work to bring young minds to Christ and salvation than the greater majority(99%) of Christians on this planet.

Reject these men today and you reject John the Baptist from the past.  Both can be sited as projecting a harsh reality.  You cannot deny this part of the New Testament. It is in fact the foremost message beginning with John the Baptist.  Repent now, the Day of the Lord is at hand.  And yet the harsh words are greeted as words of salvation within the New Testament.

In Luke, John proclaims,
&quot;Indeed the axe is already laid at the root of the trees; so every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.&quot;

Truly, politically incorrect words today unlike those of Bill Maher which are nothing but the worldly views of lust by the likes of Herod.

John says of the Messiah,
&quot;His winnowing fork is in His hand to thoroughly clear His threshing floor, and to gather the wheat into His barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.&quot;

Again, would you say such words today?  Well, some do.  I&#039;d say, get over it.  Why?

Because, what are the words of Yeshuah himself? See Luke 7:31-35, specifically v35 &quot;But wisdom is justified by all her children.&quot;

Truth is some people will complain about both John and Jesus.  But Christ points out that both John and he are of the Lord.  This lesson applies to us today.

So, mark me by my choice. I stand by them as brothers in Christ.  Recognizing we all have flaws and are not perfect, nor is &quot;moderation&quot; the only key to heaven.

Get over it.  None of us are more pious than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel stated,</p>
<p>&#8220;I thought ID was about science. This is fundamentalist religious apologetics. Is this what ID proponents want to be identified with?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not a matter of ID &#8220;wanting to be&#8230;&#8221; anything.     Did you see any endorsement by DI?  </p>
<p> &#8220;(look for &#8220;ID &#8211; The Movie&#8221; next)&#8221; gave me a chuckle. It&#8217;ll happen and the Darw-k-inist Club will have a fit.  And I hope Kirk Cameron does it, ha! Humor, get it?</p>
<p>&#8220;We all have to make choices. And by our choices others will know us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, well, my choice is I stand by them.</p>
<p>I truly wonder how most people would react if John the Baptist walked thru our streets today preaching repentance, hell, fire and the Day of the Lord.  A great majority would deny him and say similar remarks.  Yet Christ embraced him as you&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so aloft as you to think I&#8217;m above these guys whether I agree with all their methods or not.   We are all members of the body of Christ.  What kind of confounded thinking are you putting forth?</p>
<p>Also, Kirk Cameron has done more work to bring young minds to Christ and salvation than the greater majority(99%) of Christians on this planet.</p>
<p>Reject these men today and you reject John the Baptist from the past.  Both can be sited as projecting a harsh reality.  You cannot deny this part of the New Testament. It is in fact the foremost message beginning with John the Baptist.  Repent now, the Day of the Lord is at hand.  And yet the harsh words are greeted as words of salvation within the New Testament.</p>
<p>In Luke, John proclaims,<br />
&#8220;Indeed the axe is already laid at the root of the trees; so every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Truly, politically incorrect words today unlike those of Bill Maher which are nothing but the worldly views of lust by the likes of Herod.</p>
<p>John says of the Messiah,<br />
&#8220;His winnowing fork is in His hand to thoroughly clear His threshing floor, and to gather the wheat into His barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, would you say such words today?  Well, some do.  I&#8217;d say, get over it.  Why?</p>
<p>Because, what are the words of Yeshuah himself? See Luke 7:31-35, specifically v35 &#8220;But wisdom is justified by all her children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Truth is some people will complain about both John and Jesus.  But Christ points out that both John and he are of the Lord.  This lesson applies to us today.</p>
<p>So, mark me by my choice. I stand by them as brothers in Christ.  Recognizing we all have flaws and are not perfect, nor is &#8220;moderation&#8221; the only key to heaven.</p>
<p>Get over it.  None of us are more pious than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/id-the-board-game/comment-page-1/#comment-83153</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea.  Why don&#039;t we get the big-guns from both sides (ID, and Naturalistic Evolution) and have a team tournament playing the game.  Winner of four of seven gets the right to proclaim their side is scientific, for at least one year, or until another tournament is arranged.  There&#039;d be nationwide, probably worldwide, exposure.  CNN, PBS, and ESPN would broadcast the games, complete with buxom cheerleaders wearing labcoats.

(Sorry, I just got through, Saturday, sort of watching a program which presented video-gamers as some sort of athletes - it was kind of Twilight-Zonish.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea.  Why don&#8217;t we get the big-guns from both sides (ID, and Naturalistic Evolution) and have a team tournament playing the game.  Winner of four of seven gets the right to proclaim their side is scientific, for at least one year, or until another tournament is arranged.  There&#8217;d be nationwide, probably worldwide, exposure.  CNN, PBS, and ESPN would broadcast the games, complete with buxom cheerleaders wearing labcoats.</p>
<p>(Sorry, I just got through, Saturday, sort of watching a program which presented video-gamers as some sort of athletes &#8211; it was kind of Twilight-Zonish.)</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/id-the-board-game/comment-page-1/#comment-83051</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not ironic at all.  Even though chance is part of the game its role is restricted by design.</description>
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		<title>By: benkeshet</title>
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		<dc:creator>benkeshet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though purely a matter of perception, it seems ironic to me that a game that champions purposeful design vis-ÃƒÂ -vis random chance would incorporate random throws of a die. Well at least I hope the orange cards aren&#039;t put on a space marked &quot;Chance.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though purely a matter of perception, it seems ironic to me that a game that champions purposeful design vis-ÃƒÂ -vis random chance would incorporate random throws of a die. Well at least I hope the orange cards aren&#8217;t put on a space marked &#8220;Chance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tribune7</title>
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		<dc:creator>tribune7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is this what ID proponents want to be identified with?&lt;/i&gt;

There  are things I would not want to be identified with such as Nazism or Communism or racism (unlike a certain other worldview) , but I don&#039;t have a beef with connections to people who say we should love our neighbors as ourselves even if I don&#039;t agree with them on other matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is this what ID proponents want to be identified with?</i></p>
<p>There  are things I would not want to be identified with such as Nazism or Communism or racism (unlike a certain other worldview) , but I don&#8217;t have a beef with connections to people who say we should love our neighbors as ourselves even if I don&#8217;t agree with them on other matters.</p>
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		<title>By: mike1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael7, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Guess you can say theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve pirated ID for their own purpose. But then ID is not intended to represent only a few. YECs, OECs can all fit under the tent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure. But I object to them co-opting &quot;intelligent design&quot; for this purpose. They should have called their game, &quot;Creationism vs Evolution.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael7, </p>
<blockquote><p>Guess you can say theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve pirated ID for their own purpose. But then ID is not intended to represent only a few. YECs, OECs can all fit under the tent.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure. But I object to them co-opting &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; for this purpose. They should have called their game, &#8220;Creationism vs Evolution.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  I just ordered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  I just ordered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fross</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/id-the-board-game/comment-page-1/#comment-83019</link>
		<dc:creator>Fross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you guys seen their banana vs Pepsi can video on youtube?

I think I&#039;ll pass on this one. heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you guys seen their banana vs Pepsi can video on youtube?</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll pass on this one. heh</p>
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		<title>By: Mats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You know youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve arrived when youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re the topic of a board game (look for Ã¢â‚¬Å“ID Ã¢â‚¬â€ The MovieÃ¢â‚¬Â next).
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In that movie, who will play Michael Behe? I propose Kalsey Grammer. oh! And I propose Will Ferrell for the job of Judge Jones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You know youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve arrived when youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re the topic of a board game (look for Ã¢â‚¬Å“ID Ã¢â‚¬â€ The MovieÃ¢â‚¬Â next).
</p></blockquote>
<p>In that movie, who will play Michael Behe? I propose Kalsey Grammer. oh! And I propose Will Ferrell for the job of Judge Jones.</p>
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