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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12999</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush treats the United Nations in a most unusual way for someone purported to be interested in globalization.

I think you&#039;re conflating making the world over in the image of democratic America with dissolving sovereign borders.  You can probably safely presume that making the world safe for democracy and making the world safe for capitalism are conflated in Bush&#039;s mind.

If what Bush is doing is dissolving sovereign borders you might expect he&#039;d be trying to strenghthen the U.N. instead of weakening it and calling it irrelevant.  You also might expect him to be less supportive of constitutional constructionism which gives primacy to states rights and restricts federal power to only that which is explicitely given it in the constitution.  Bush opposes both federalism and an activist judiciary which, domestically speaking, is evidence against dissolution of borders.  

Probably the more accurate rendering is sovereign military borders &quot;yes&quot; and sovereign economic borders &quot;no&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush treats the United Nations in a most unusual way for someone purported to be interested in globalization.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re conflating making the world over in the image of democratic America with dissolving sovereign borders.  You can probably safely presume that making the world safe for democracy and making the world safe for capitalism are conflated in Bush&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>If what Bush is doing is dissolving sovereign borders you might expect he&#8217;d be trying to strenghthen the U.N. instead of weakening it and calling it irrelevant.  You also might expect him to be less supportive of constitutional constructionism which gives primacy to states rights and restricts federal power to only that which is explicitely given it in the constitution.  Bush opposes both federalism and an activist judiciary which, domestically speaking, is evidence against dissolution of borders.  </p>
<p>Probably the more accurate rendering is sovereign military borders &#8220;yes&#8221; and sovereign economic borders &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pmob1</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12653</link>
		<dc:creator>pmob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveScot,

Granted, but Ã¢â‚¬Å“AmericaÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“AmericanaÃ¢â‚¬Â are now offshore corporate concepts, not bordered nation concepts. I think Bush prefers to deliver speeches in Spanish. It actualizes globalism. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a long way from the genius of TRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Melting Pot. The only reason I voted for Bush twice is that the other side would dissolve borders, language and Constitution even faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveScot,</p>
<p>Granted, but Ã¢â‚¬Å“AmericaÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“AmericanaÃ¢â‚¬Â are now offshore corporate concepts, not bordered nation concepts. I think Bush prefers to deliver speeches in Spanish. It actualizes globalism. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a long way from the genius of TRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Melting Pot. The only reason I voted for Bush twice is that the other side would dissolve borders, language and Constitution even faster.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12600</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly it&#039;s said that no two countries that have McDonald&#039;s restaurants have ever been at war with each other.

I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s strictly true (it probably is) but it&#039;s sort of illustrative of the thinking behind Pax Americana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly it&#8217;s said that no two countries that have McDonald&#8217;s restaurants have ever been at war with each other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s strictly true (it probably is) but it&#8217;s sort of illustrative of the thinking behind Pax Americana.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12599</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmob1

A trade zone?  That might be worth partial credit if I&#039;m feeling generous.  Pax Americana is what the neocons are all about.  Capitalism is a part of that but not the whole enchilada.    

Begin reading here:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pmob1</p>
<p>A trade zone?  That might be worth partial credit if I&#8217;m feeling generous.  Pax Americana is what the neocons are all about.  Capitalism is a part of that but not the whole enchilada.    </p>
<p>Begin reading here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: pmob1</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12583</link>
		<dc:creator>pmob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WD,

TR presumed America as a nation state. Bush-Clinton-Bush presume America as a trade zone. &quot;English&quot; is not only irrelevant, it is futile, (not to mention wage-inflationary).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WD,</p>
<p>TR presumed America as a nation state. Bush-Clinton-Bush presume America as a trade zone. &#8220;English&#8221; is not only irrelevant, it is futile, (not to mention wage-inflationary).</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie

A genuine Unamerican Detector isn&#039;t quite so difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie</p>
<p>A genuine Unamerican Detector isn&#8217;t quite so difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: dodgingcars</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12510</link>
		<dc:creator>dodgingcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charliecrs,

No, but I think we can encourage the &quot;melting pot&quot; that tocqueville spoke of... (the mixing of all cultures into a new race -- The American), and discouraging the balkanization of the U.S. that multiculturalism encourages. 

No need to discourage diversity -- but we need to teach more about what makes us the same than what makes us difference. Let&#039;s teach American History instead of _____ American hisotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charliecrs,</p>
<p>No, but I think we can encourage the &#8220;melting pot&#8221; that tocqueville spoke of&#8230; (the mixing of all cultures into a new race &#8212; The American), and discouraging the balkanization of the U.S. that multiculturalism encourages. </p>
<p>No need to discourage diversity &#8212; but we need to teach more about what makes us the same than what makes us difference. Let&#8217;s teach American History instead of _____ American hisotry.</p>
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		<title>By: Charliecrs</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12505</link>
		<dc:creator>Charliecrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Mr. Dembski - do no more of quote mining... its illegal after all. Not only that its harmful to the kids everywhere. If you continue this kind of thing might spread all over the net. lol - gimme a break.

Charlie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Mr. Dembski &#8211; do no more of quote mining&#8230; its illegal after all. Not only that its harmful to the kids everywhere. If you continue this kind of thing might spread all over the net. lol &#8211; gimme a break.</p>
<p>Charlie</p>
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		<title>By: Charliecrs</title>
		<link>http://www.uncommondescent.com/education/off-topic-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-12504</link>
		<dc:creator>Charliecrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geex - im all for American national pride / loyailty but what are we going to do ?, invent a Genuine American Detector ?. Just like Microsofts Genuine Windows detector or better yet invent a Genuine American Possible Defactor Device. lol -yeah...


Charlie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geex &#8211; im all for American national pride / loyailty but what are we going to do ?, invent a Genuine American Detector ?. Just like Microsofts Genuine Windows detector or better yet invent a Genuine American Possible Defactor Device. lol -yeah&#8230;</p>
<p>Charlie</p>
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		<title>By: DaveScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great quote from a great man.  We could use a Bull Moose party today. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great quote from a great man.  We could use a Bull Moose party today. <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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