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Scottish ID supporters are like “Holocaust deniers”?

Recently, we noted that the British Centre for Science Education (BCSE) – by its name, modelled on the US Darwin lobby, National Center for Science Education (NCSE) – has decided to wade into explicitly religious (read anti-religious) issues, which is something that NCSE always had too much sense to do (cue sound of schoolroom doors slamming).

A friend mentions that we might also be interested in BCSE associate Keith Gilmour’s website, the “Centre for Unintelligent Design,” endorsed by BCSE, which attacks Scottish educator Alastair Noble or fellow Scot (and Uncommon Descent author) Jonathan McLatchie as being tantamount to “holocaust deniers”.

The problem with this kind of irrational outgassing isn’t that people will be persuaded that Noble or McLatchie are like Holocaust deniers.

The problem is: There are Holocaust deniers out there. At UD, we outed one last year. Using the term to heap abuse on opponents in an unrelated debate undermines the efforts of people who fight the growing menace of anti-Semitism. The term’s meaning and importance is obscured – and actual Holocaust deniers are inadvertently protected as a result.

Remarkably, the BCSE has endorsed this site on their own blog.

One thing about Centre for Unintelligent Design: It would seem to be living up to its name. About BCSE, not so much. In fact, …

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8 Responses to Scottish ID supporters are like “Holocaust deniers”?

  1. ID deniers = Holocaust deniers as both hold to their positions despite the evidence.

  2. Joe at 1: “The problem is: There are Holocaust deniers out there. At UD, we outed one last year. Using the term to heap abuse on opponents in an unrelated debate undermines the efforts of people who fight the growing menace of anti-Semitism. ” This is your first mod warning. More of this and it’ll be your last.

  3. You are right, I was wrong- I have this limbric issue/thing.

    I meant to say “If anything….” in an attempt to point out the irony- and even that is wrong because it is worse than that. I am sure the ID deniers would have no problem rounding us up and attempt to find a final solution to the ID problem.

    Unfortunately for them many of us are members of the NRA…

  4. 4
    material.infantacy

    “Unfortunately for them many of us are members of the NRA…”

    LOL! Even if not, some of us have enough firearms and ammo to reenact that scene from the movie “Heat.”

  5. 5

    Yes darwinists, we know you can’t produce empirical evidence for your myth so you try to discredit your critics by making outlandish, baseless attacks against their character.

    BTW, what about those who deny the holocaust but believe darwin’s myth?

  6. Ah, nada worry. We may have misunderstood. That’s the trouble with e-mail vs. conversation. Some of us think that Holocaust denial is not just a public dispute about stuff that happened a long time ago but a violent and dangerous evil. Calling us pigs doesn’t harm us or pigs, but equating us with Holocaust deniers undermines the ability of people who fight real Holocaust deniers to counter them – by making the term itself weak, confusing, or useless.

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    They want to punch home to the public that denying evolution is not just as wrong but as morally wrong as denying the holocaust.
    Its a moral intimidation and not a intellectual one.

    I deny there is any such thing as anti-semitism. its just a ‘ism to discredit words, thoughts, deeds about Jews.
    Accusations are simply right or wrong and innocent or malicious and likewise deeds.
    I deny holocaust deniers as anything to do with modern man. Its obscure and irrelevant. Everybody who is aware of historical events back in the day believes evidence is solid about the holocaust. perhaps numbers are wrong but intents and great numbers as documented are solidly proven.

    its not like evolutionary biology and company.
    anyways using great death events shouldn’t be and isn’t needed for these issues. Its poor form and unde the belt.
    it won’t silence creationisms nor intimidate the public.
    Its stupid.
    its like they can’t make a good case based on evidence from nature!!!

  8. Any Darwinian who sinks as low as that in order to uh make the case for neo-Darwinism (that is in this most pathetic and shameful attempt to discredit ID), has lost all credibility and does not deserve the time of day. It’s also an outrageous insult to Jewish ID supporters.

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