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More reasons why Dawkins should just retire: No one, it turns out, defends Darwin on the evidence.

Maybe not even Darwin?

At a blog interestingly titled, “Rationally speaking: Truth springs from argument among friends,” Massimo Pigliucci, an atheist materialist philosopher at the City University of New York, notes the difficulties of doing science when evidence doesn’t matter. He recalls,

I talked about the pessimistic meta-induction at TAM a couple of years ago, and Richard Dawkins approached me afterwards to let me know that — clearly — the Darwinian theory is the obvious exception to the meta-induction, thus displaying a surprising amount of ignorance of both the history of biology and the current status of evolutionary theory. Cue the onslaught of incensed comments by his supporters.

Essentially, Dawkins wants an exception for Darwinism from the rule of evidence. And that is not new. He had said that decades ago:

“My argument will be that Darwinism is the only known theory that is in principle capable of explaining certain aspects of life. If I am right it means that, even if there were no actual evidence in favour of the Darwinian theory (there is, of course) we should still be justified in preferring it over all rival theories.” — p. 287, Blind Watchmaker” (1986)

When no one was paying attention and no one realized what it meant.

None of this should be a surprise. Just recently, we covered the fact that materialist atheist Jerry Fodor became the subject of a warning in a science journal: “How Jerry Fodor slid down the slippery slope to Anti-Darwinism, and how we can avoid the same fate.”

You too can avoid the same fate – by ceasing to think and just assuming Darwinism is true.

The best part is that Darwinists will reassure you that you were never thinking anyway; only your selfish genes and entangled neurons were. You don’t have a mind. You never did. What could be better?

Aw, wake up. Slosh, slosh. Life’ll never be that easy.

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6 Responses to More reasons why Dawkins should just retire: No one, it turns out, defends Darwin on the evidence.

  1. If this is true, that’s one of the most damning things I’ve ever read about Dawkins. And frankly, there was a lot on the “damning” list with him anyway, intellectually speaking.

  2. Well, if you consider that Dawkins is foremost a Philosopher or Scientist, then sure: He should retire. But if you consider that he is foremost an Activist, then he’s had a commendable record at demonstrating competency to his job requirements.

    Of course, people that erect a Cult of Personality around Activist figures are a different, and more troubling, issue.

  3. I didn’t know Mr Dawkin’s said that about EVEN if no evidence EVOLUTION would still be the best of rival theories.
    Yet this is just the point.

    Great conclusions on biological origins, a great thing in the universe, must be made based on evidence, including revelation, especially if its clain the be the result of high human investigation called SCIENCE!

    No evidence equals no conclusion!
    NO ToE!

    There must not be any seduction in a persons thoughts on origins about preferred hunches!
    Such thinking means a instinctive bias will be in operation when addressing the quality and quantity of evidence for some hypothesis.
    It is suggestive of how many people think and why poorly evidenced ideas like evolution stick around.

    They just think its true for reasons separate from scientific evidence!
    Of coarse they will list their evidence, a short list and ghosty, but Mr Dawkins is trying to persuade people on conclusions about the natural world without investigation of the natural world being the only way to go.

    And they conplain about yEC folks like me!?

  4. Evidence smevidence. Who needs evidence when you can throw down a million dollar rap as good as Dickie D does?

    Richard Dawkins – Beware the Believers – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGgpGLxLQw

    Notes:

    Ben Stein vs Richard Dawkins – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_ZF8r5e7w

    Anti-Science Irony (Who is really anti-science?) – October 2011
    Excerpt: In response to a letter from Asa Gray, professor of biology at Harvard University, Darwin declared: “I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science.” Darwin was “anti-Science”.
    When questioned further by Gray, Darwin confirmed Gray’s suspicions: “What you hint at generally is very, very true: that my work is grievously hypothetical, and large parts are by no means worthy of being called induction.” Darwin had turned against the use of scientific principles in developing his theory of evolution.,,, Just two weeks before the (re)lease of The Origin of Species, Erasmus Darwin, his brother, consoled him in a letter: “In fact, the a priori reasoning is so entirely satisfactory to me that if the facts [evidence] won’t fit, why so much the worse for the facts, in my feeling.”
    http://www.darwinthenandnow.co.....nce-irony/

    Nobel laureate physicist that you sure won’t read on a Darwin pressure group Web site
    Excerpt: Evolution by natural selection, for instance, which Charles Darwin originally conceived as a great theory, has lately come to function more as an antitheory, called upon to cover up embarrassing experimental shortcomings and legitimize findings that are at best questionable and at worst not even wrong. Your protein defies the laws of mass action? Evolution did it! Your complicated mess of chemical reactions turns into a chicken? Evolution! The human brain works on logical principles no computer can emulate? Evolution is the cause! -
    Robert B. Laughlin, A Different Universe: Reinventing Physics from the Bottom Down (New York: Basic Books, 2005), 168-69)
    http://www.uncommondescent.com.....-web-site/

    The Atheist Doctor (Denial of Evidence) – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQzQpnYhKI

    Brian Cusack’s Latest: Anti Parsimonious, Teleological, Petitio Principii, Cum Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc and Misrepresentations—Other Than That It’s Perfect – October 2011
    Excerpt: ,,,evolutionists craft clever explanations that cast evolution and its natural selection in the active role of a designer. The theory sounds so much more plausible when natural selection responds to a need by creating a new design. ,, Out of one side of their mouth they rail against teleology while from the other they appeal to it over and over.
    http://darwins-god.blogspot.co.....nious.html

    Peer-Reviewed & Peer-Edited Scientific Publications Supporting the Theory of Intelligent Design (Annotated) – updated regularly
    http://www.discovery.org/a/2640

    Peer-Reviewed Scientific Literature Building a Compelling Case for ID – podcast – February 2012
    http://intelligentdesign.podom.....8_55-08_00

    Evolutionary Informatics Lab – Main Publications
    http://evoinfo.org/publications/

    Bio-Complexity Publication Archive
    http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/.....ue/archive

  5. Evidence smevidence. Who needs evidence when you can throw down a million dollar rap as good as Dickie D does?

    Richard Dawkins – Beware the Believers – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGgpGLxLQw

    Notes:

    Ben Stein vs Richard Dawkins – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_ZF8r5e7w

    Anti-Science Irony (Who is really anti-science?) – October 2011
    Excerpt: In response to a letter from Asa Gray, professor of biology at Harvard University, Darwin declared: “I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science.” Darwin was “anti-Science”.
    When questioned further by Gray, Darwin confirmed Gray’s suspicions: “What you hint at generally is very, very true: that my work is grievously hypothetical, and large parts are by no means worthy of being called induction.” Darwin had turned against the use of scientific principles in developing his theory of evolution.,,, Just two weeks before the (re)lease of The Origin of Species, Erasmus Darwin, his brother, consoled him in a letter: “In fact, the a priori reasoning is so entirely satisfactory to me that if the facts [evidence] won’t fit, why so much the worse for the facts, in my feeling.”
    http://www.darwinthenandnow.co.....nce-irony/

    Nobel laureate physicist that you sure won’t read on a Darwin pressure group Web site
    Excerpt: Evolution by natural selection, for instance, which Charles Darwin originally conceived as a great theory, has lately come to function more as an antitheory, called upon to cover up embarrassing experimental shortcomings and legitimize findings that are at best questionable and at worst not even wrong. Your protein defies the laws of mass action? Evolution did it! Your complicated mess of chemical reactions turns into a chicken? Evolution! The human brain works on logical principles no computer can emulate? Evolution is the cause! -
    Robert B. Laughlin, A Different Universe: Reinventing Physics from the Bottom Down (New York: Basic Books, 2005), 168-69)

    The Atheist Doctor (Denial of Evidence) – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQzQpnYhKI

    Brian Cusack’s Latest: Anti Parsimonious, Teleological, Petitio Principii, Cum Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc and Misrepresentations—Other Than That It’s Perfect – October 2011
    Excerpt: ,,,evolutionists craft clever explanations that cast evolution and its natural selection in the active role of a designer. The theory sounds so much more plausible when natural selection responds to a need by creating a new design. ,, Out of one side of their mouth they rail against teleology while from the other they appeal to it over and over.
    http://darwins-god.blogspot.co.....nious.html

    Peer-Reviewed & Peer-Edited Scientific Publications Supporting the Theory of Intelligent Design (Annotated) – updated regularly
    http://www.discovery.org/a/2640

    Peer-Reviewed Scientific Literature Building a Compelling Case for ID – podcast – February 2012
    http://intelligentdesign.podom.....8_55-08_00

    Evolutionary Informatics Lab – Main Publications
    http://evoinfo.org/publications/

    Bio-Complexity Publication Archive
    http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/.....ue/archive

  6. Better quality version here:

    Richard Dawkins – Beware the Believers – video
    https://vimeo.com/7731747

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