James Watson — Why does he say the things he does?
| October 16, 2007 | Posted by William Dembski under Culture, Darwinism |
Anybody willing to offer predictions about when Darwinists will be getting back big time into the eugenics business?
Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
SOURCE: news.independent.co.uk. . . His views are also reflected in a book published next week, in which he writes: “There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so.”
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@bornagain77
It is so simple a child can see it, black is a combination of all other colors for a material object.
I don’t dispute this at all what I dispute is that black contains all the ‘information’ for the other colours. If I have black paint how can I get cyan for example? If black paint contains cyan (and in colour theory black is a combination of cyan, yellow and magenta) how can I get cyan paint from black paint? If you can’t it doesn’t contain the information for cyan does it?
I don’t know if you are really this ignorant, but from reading your post with others, I have a feeling you are not ignorant, but just enjoy being difficult for the sake of being difficult, because you have some sort of ax to grind with your “religious” concept of God!
If this is truly the case, I can assure you that your triviality and pettiness is not appreciated by myself or others on this site.
I’m sorry if you see it this way I am honestly trying to understand. Answer my question above and that may get us back on track I hope.
PS: Now that my troublesome web access over the past several days is working a tad better [yet another ICT headache! Add to that the firetruck that overturned at the local airport Monday, leading to the loss of air access by the 19 seater puddle-jumper . . . the "joys" of living in paradise! But then when I look across at my favourite treasure on mornings, she is well worth it!!! (Atom, I just may got you beat . . .)], here is a useful link on difficulties and much more.
PPS: On defining race; this was done in the earlier thread on Dawkins’ antisemitic remarks. Go look up the Oxford English Dictionary or another credible source — this is not a serious objection; and we are not so ignorant, stupid insane or wicked that we can’t google or yahoo a word.
BA 77 is dead right that LOTF you — sadly — are coming across as arrogant, conceited and superciliously contemptuous while being in fact willfully ignorant [or too lazy to look up on Google or Yahoo] and/or simply wanting to be difficult. Please, fix this.
@kairosfocus
I no longer wish to derail this discussion with bible talk, my apologies if I have offended you.
I asked about race on the other discussion shall we take this up there?
lotf you asked,
If black paint contains cyan (and in colour theory black is a combination of cyan, yellow and magenta) how can I get cyan paint from black paint? If you can’t it doesn’t contain the information for cyan does it?
Paint is a extremely difficult medium to work with as far as separating to a proper color, so let’s use a computer program for our example of separating colors, There are two options for the way you can set up the computer program for separating colors. One is to set up the program as if all the information is in the white color. The method of dealing with colors is called additive color mixing.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g.....ol.html#c1
The other way is to set up the program as if all the information is in the black color. This method of dealing with colors is called subtractive color mixing.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g.....ol.html#c1
These are the only two options for setting up the computer program, that is if you want a full range of colors for your program. If the computer program is set up on the material basis of how color acts (subtractive color mixing), the computer program will be encoded with information for each of the primary colors of black (cyan, magenta, yellow) and add them to one another to get from a completely white (background) screen to a completely black (colored) screen. Subtract from some or all of the information you have for any or each of the primary colors you have for black in the computer program to get to the desired color you want between black and white. Subtract all the information for each primary color to get to a white (background) screen.
Whereas, if the program is set up for white light having all the information (additive color mixing), the computer program would have all the information for the primary colors for white light (blue, red, green) encoded in its program. Add all the primary colors up and you will get a white screen. Like-wise subtract any or all of the information for the primary colors you have for white to get to any color you want between white and black. Subtract all primary colors to get to the black (background) screen!
Thus, my assertion that the African Race has more information for color stands upon the scientific principle of subtractive color mixing!
lotf, If this is not clear enough for you to understand I’m sorry.
I could probably get a lot more technical with the subject, but I see very limited benefit from going any further into the details, and my patience for explaining this subject to you is shot.
lotf is no longer with us
Obviously his cup of blessing doesn’t run dry…he can bless all and still have more to give.
[...] Here’s a post criticizing him from the religious perspective, which I found rather [...]
DaveScot: “lotf is no longer with us”
thanks, it becomes nauseating trying to reason against arrogant ignorance and poor logic.
I could probably get a lot more technical with the subject
Bornagain77, you have a gift for cranking out the prose. Please tell me you work the night shift. Because, I’d hate to think we are benefiting from your detailed treatises while you are on the clock!
rrf,
No sir, I write on my own time. But my job doesn’t chew up that much of my time, so I have time to research, read and write on ID. A subject that has captured my interest, to put it mildly.
Alas, lotf is no longer with us, so this reply is rather belated, but in case he comes back:
I have no idea what you mean by Darwinista but how can you seriously say ID science advocates are being denied their say writing on a blog that advocates ID science?
That independent blogs have arisen to support ID does not mean the scientific establishment is not suppressing it. Look no further than the cases of Sternberg or Gonzalez for pertinent examples.
Re skin colour:
The skin contains specialised cells that produce melanin which is a black pigment. People who produce it very efficiently have black skin. European, Asian and Indo-American folk, produce it less efficiently. Albinos produce next to none.
So all skin, hair and eye colours depend on how much melanin you produce. The information dictating how much melanin you are able to produce is in your DNA.
Janice: Its not quite as simple as you think:
Melanin comes in two types: pheomelanin (red) and eumelanin (dark brown to nearly black). Both amount and type are determined by four to six genes which operate under incomplete nce. One copy of each of those genes is inherited from the father and one from the mother. Each gene comes in several alleles, resulting in a great variety of different skin tones.
Even if it was just a simple case of the efficiency of one melanin in the skin of people, I would still hold that it demonstrated less information for the younger descended races from Africans,and thus still conformed to genetic entropy…But as the case stands my inference to subtractive color mixing is strong and my case for the Genetic Entropy of skin color in younger human races is bolstered all the more!
Yeah. I knew it was more complex than what I wrote but I thought that fellow was getting confused by the talk of paint and light etc.
Of course I didn’t know it was quite as complex as you have described. One of these days I must read that book about genetic entropy.
It seems to me that with the concept of Genetic entropy that we might expect certain groups of people to have important genes for say, intelligence, decay over time. That’s what we should expect if mutations accumulate from a common ancestor that was designed. Perhaps some populations decay faster than others?