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	<title>Comments on: Discovery Institute suing California Science Center over alleged undisclosed documents</title>
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		<title>By: osteonectin</title>
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		<dc:creator>osteonectin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CannuckianYankee, thanks for your reply.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Therefore, the DI has a vested interest in why the film was dropped, and this is why they requrested the information, so they can conduct their own investigation, as is the right of any individual or organization under the freedom of information act.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Doesn&#039;t a trial bear the risk for the DI of having to disclose their communication with the American Freedom Alliance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CannuckianYankee, thanks for your reply.</p>
<blockquote><p>Therefore, the DI has a vested interest in why the film was dropped, and this is why they requrested the information, so they can conduct their own investigation, as is the right of any individual or organization under the freedom of information act.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t a trial bear the risk for the DI of having to disclose their communication with the American Freedom Alliance?</p>
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		<title>By: CannuckianYankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannuckianYankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>osteonectin,

&quot;I thought the whole issue was about a screeing not organized by the Discovery Institute.&quot;

I think you are correct that the screening was not organized by the DI.  However, the DI is a thinktank, which supports the positive presentation of ID to the public.  The film is an ID positive film.  Therefore, the DI has a vested interest in why the film was dropped, and this is why they requrested the information, so they can conduct their own investigation, as is the right of any individual or organization under the freedom of information act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>osteonectin,</p>
<p>&#8220;I thought the whole issue was about a screeing not organized by the Discovery Institute.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you are correct that the screening was not organized by the DI.  However, the DI is a thinktank, which supports the positive presentation of ID to the public.  The film is an ID positive film.  Therefore, the DI has a vested interest in why the film was dropped, and this is why they requrested the information, so they can conduct their own investigation, as is the right of any individual or organization under the freedom of information act.</p>
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		<title>By: CannuckianYankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannuckianYankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also point out that the freedom of information act requires the disclosure of all the information the DI requrested.  This is the real point of the lawsuit - not merely the dropping of the film - although, it probably plays into the whole issue of why the DI requested the information in the first place.  Transparency is the law of the land for publicly funded institutions.  Emails are not private in that respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also point out that the freedom of information act requires the disclosure of all the information the DI requrested.  This is the real point of the lawsuit &#8211; not merely the dropping of the film &#8211; although, it probably plays into the whole issue of why the DI requested the information in the first place.  Transparency is the law of the land for publicly funded institutions.  Emails are not private in that respect.</p>
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		<title>By: CannuckianYankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannuckianYankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulBurnett,

I think it&#039;s unlikely that Dr.s Dembski or Meyer will be called to the stand, but Casey Luskin may be.

I&#039;m still curious about how the DI became aware of the documents (emails), but I think it&#039;s a pretty sound lawsuit if they became aware of the emails through legitimate means.  It&#039;s sound because for similar reasons to the Climategate fiasco, there&#039;s a freedom of information act in this country.  The Science Center receives public funding, and therefore, is obligated to allow the presentation of issues from a number of perspectives, not simply from the scientific consensus.  It is quite clear that there is some shenanigans going on there.  If they had allowed the showing of the film in the first place, everyone would be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulBurnett,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s unlikely that Dr.s Dembski or Meyer will be called to the stand, but Casey Luskin may be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still curious about how the DI became aware of the documents (emails), but I think it&#8217;s a pretty sound lawsuit if they became aware of the emails through legitimate means.  It&#8217;s sound because for similar reasons to the Climategate fiasco, there&#8217;s a freedom of information act in this country.  The Science Center receives public funding, and therefore, is obligated to allow the presentation of issues from a number of perspectives, not simply from the scientific consensus.  It is quite clear that there is some shenanigans going on there.  If they had allowed the showing of the film in the first place, everyone would be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Heinrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heinrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t these emails be the ones that they said were redacted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t these emails be the ones that they said were redacted?</p>
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		<title>By: osteonectin</title>
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		<dc:creator>osteonectin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the whole issue was about a screeing not organized by the Discovery Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the whole issue was about a screeing not organized by the Discovery Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Emails to/from the Smithsonian.

2. They&#039;ve seen one or more of them or seen references to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Emails to/from the Smithsonian.</p>
<p>2. They&#8217;ve seen one or more of them or seen references to them.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulBurnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulBurnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you really sure this lawsuit is a good idea?  What if they get Dembski or Meyers or even Luskin on the stand under oath?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you really sure this lawsuit is a good idea?  What if they get Dembski or Meyers or even Luskin on the stand under oath?</p>
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		<title>By: CannuckianYankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannuckianYankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just two questions: 

What are the documents that the DI wants disclosed that they know have not been.  How do they know they exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just two questions: </p>
<p>What are the documents that the DI wants disclosed that they know have not been.  How do they know they exist?</p>
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