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	<title>Comments on: Darwin skeptic Suzan Mazur is one fine journalist</title>
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		<title>By: Zachriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;tgpeeler&lt;/b&gt;: to be logically consistent, evolution has to account for the origin of life. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let&#039;s try to make the various statements above more rigorous. The Theory of Evolution is a self-consistent scientific theory that assumes the existence of life. Evolutionary biologists, however, are interested not just in evolutionary mechanisms, but evolutionary history, including the time when life first arose. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Joseph&lt;/b&gt;: If living organisms did not arise from non-living matter via blind, undirected processes then there would be no reason to infer the subsequent evolution proceeded solely by those types of processes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is not necessarily the case. Even if primodial life was created, it may have still evolved via natural evolutionary mechanisms. Only actual evidence of such creation would be able to answer the question definitively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>tgpeeler</b>: to be logically consistent, evolution has to account for the origin of life. </p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s try to make the various statements above more rigorous. The Theory of Evolution is a self-consistent scientific theory that assumes the existence of life. Evolutionary biologists, however, are interested not just in evolutionary mechanisms, but evolutionary history, including the time when life first arose. </p>
<blockquote><p><b>Joseph</b>: If living organisms did not arise from non-living matter via blind, undirected processes then there would be no reason to infer the subsequent evolution proceeded solely by those types of processes.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is not necessarily the case. Even if primodial life was created, it may have still evolved via natural evolutionary mechanisms. Only actual evidence of such creation would be able to answer the question definitively.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably, the first life was a species of some sort. At least the second one was right? How did that one originate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably, the first life was a species of some sort. At least the second one was right? How did that one originate?</p>
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		<title>By: tsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be logically consistent, evolution has to account for the origin of life.  Someone forgot to give this guy the script that evolution has nothing to do with origins...

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Next to life itself, the origin of complex cells is one of the most fundamental, and intractable, problems in evolutionary biology. &lt;/b&gt; Progress in this area relies heavily on an understanding of the relationships between present-day organisms, yet despite tremendous advances over the last half-century scientists remain firmly divided on how to best classify cellular life. 
2. John M. Archibald, “The Eocyte Hypothesis and the Origin of Eukaryotic Cells,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, Published online before print December 17, 2008, doi: 10.1073/pnas.0811118106.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be logically consistent, evolution has to account for the origin of life.  Someone forgot to give this guy the script that evolution has nothing to do with origins&#8230;</p>
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<b>Next to life itself, the origin of complex cells is one of the most fundamental, and intractable, problems in evolutionary biology. </b> Progress in this area relies heavily on an understanding of the relationships between present-day organisms, yet despite tremendous advances over the last half-century scientists remain firmly divided on how to best classify cellular life.<br />
2. John M. Archibald, “The Eocyte Hypothesis and the Origin of Eukaryotic Cells,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, Published online before print December 17, 2008, doi: 10.1073/pnas.0811118106.
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1- The origin of life directly impacts any subsequent evolution.

2- If living organisms did not arise from non-living matter via blind, undirected processes then there would be no reason to infer the subsequent evolution proceeded solely by those types of processes.

3- IOW if living organisms were designed then the most likely explanation is that they were also designed to evolve- evolved by design

4- To this day there isn&#039;t any scientific data which demonstrates that accumulating mutations can do what is claimed by evolutionists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1- The origin of life directly impacts any subsequent evolution.</p>
<p>2- If living organisms did not arise from non-living matter via blind, undirected processes then there would be no reason to infer the subsequent evolution proceeded solely by those types of processes.</p>
<p>3- IOW if living organisms were designed then the most likely explanation is that they were also designed to evolve- evolved by design</p>
<p>4- To this day there isn&#8217;t any scientific data which demonstrates that accumulating mutations can do what is claimed by evolutionists</p>
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		<title>By: Zachriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Barb&lt;/b&gt;: yet Darwin hypothesized about “a warm little pond” that would somehow provide the building blocks for life. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Darwin did not propose a scientific hypothesis of the origin of life, and considered the question well beyond what evidence was available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Barb</b>: yet Darwin hypothesized about “a warm little pond” that would somehow provide the building blocks for life. </p></blockquote>
<p>Darwin did not propose a scientific hypothesis of the origin of life, and considered the question well beyond what evidence was available.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, yet Darwin hypothesized about &quot;a warm little pond&quot; that would somehow provide the building blocks for life.  The word &quot;origin&quot; is still in the title, even if you change the focus to the word &quot;species&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, yet Darwin hypothesized about &#8220;a warm little pond&#8221; that would somehow provide the building blocks for life.  The word &#8220;origin&#8221; is still in the title, even if you change the focus to the word &#8220;species&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Macchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Macchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tribune7,

I read your link.  Perhaps I missed it but nowhere did I read that &quot;Darwinian selection is responsible for the origin of life.&quot;  If she thinks that is a &#039;sea-change&#039; in thinking, perhaps it&#039;s time for her to move to a different field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tribune7,</p>
<p>I read your link.  Perhaps I missed it but nowhere did I read that &#8220;Darwinian selection is responsible for the origin of life.&#8221;  If she thinks that is a &#8216;sea-change&#8217; in thinking, perhaps it&#8217;s time for her to move to a different field.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Barb: Yes, Darwin tackled the origin of &lt;b&gt;species&lt;/b&gt;, not the origin of &lt;b&gt;life&lt;/b&gt;. They are 2 different things. Completely different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Barb: Yes, Darwin tackled the origin of <b>species</b>, not the origin of <b>life</b>. They are 2 different things. Completely different.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Darwinian paradigm clearly attempts to explain &quot;the &lt;b&gt;origin&lt;/b&gt; of species&quot; not simply their respective evolutionary pathways.  

Oh, and LOL at using Wikipedia for a source of information for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Darwinian paradigm clearly attempts to explain &#8220;the <b>origin</b> of species&#8221; not simply their respective evolutionary pathways.  </p>
<p>Oh, and LOL at using Wikipedia for a source of information for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: tribune7</title>
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		<dc:creator>tribune7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Can we all read at least a bit of the Wikipedia article on category mistakes.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_01&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How about we read The University of California Museum of Paleontology, Berkeley&#039;s Evolution 101, Understanding Evolution: your one stop source for information on evolution-- From Soup To Cells -- The Origin Of Life &lt;/a&gt;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can we all read at least a bit of the Wikipedia article on category mistakes.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_01" rel="nofollow">How about we read The University of California Museum of Paleontology, Berkeley&#8217;s Evolution 101, Understanding Evolution: your one stop source for information on evolution&#8211; From Soup To Cells &#8212; The Origin Of Life </a> <img src='http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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