A well-read Catholic responds to claims that “The Pope believes in Darwin!”
| February 6, 2012 | Posted by News under Darwinism, Media, News, Religion |
In response to “What Catholics didn’t like about Darwin – and still don’t:
Most people end the quote from John Paul II in support of evolution too soon. In his famous address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences [1996], he says that evolution is more than a hypothesis, and that the convergence of data are an argument in favor of the theory. But then, because he is a philosopher, he goes on to define his terms, and to clarify how far this should be taken.
He continues:
“What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology. A theory is a metascientific elaboration, distinct from the results of observation but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory’s validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.”
Contrary to the interpretation given by many, this does not constitute a statement that evolution is an established fact. Rather, it is a theory subject to verification. When the facts no longer fit, evolution needs to be rethought.
(Note: The typical folk who wrote for the Catholic press certainly did not understand this distinction. They were vastly relieved that their much better paid secular counterparts could not now use evolution as a reason to scorn them. They could say, “The Pope supports evolution!” In the popular context, that meant, of course, “supports the 99% chimpanzee thesis regarding human beings.” And everything that follows, including abortion, all in good time.)
And that’s what this blog is about, and what ID scientists are about. It’s what Shapiro and Weber and many other non-Darwinist biologists are about. They are testing the theory of evolution against the facts of biology, and identifying the theory’s limitations and unsuitability. They are rethinking the theory.
Yes, these are exciting times. Imagine being young now, with the whole adventure before you … starting to really understand the history of life. …
I recommend people read JPII’s statement in full. It is a nuanced careful statement that identifies key places where Darwinism cannot be compatible with the Church’s understanding of who we are as human beings. It is not a declaration that evolution is proven fact.
Note: The early twentieth century Catholic writers who “ trashed Darwinism lived and died long before John Paul II, but they inhabited the same non-materialist thought world.
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6 Responses to A well-read Catholic responds to claims that “The Pope believes in Darwin!”
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The bible, genesis, is true and clearly true and therefore anything thing that contradicts it is false.
It is therefore without evidence worthy to persuade a thinking person seeking the truth.
Evangelical Protestant Christians all or almost insist Genesis is true.
The Roman Catholic Church should listen to their allies on these matters.
Don’t be impressed with those who in one hand claim evolution has scientific evidence behind it and in the other hand dismiss the claims of Christianity and even a creator,.
Who do they have more confidence in!
The author is on the right track but not quite on the money.
First, Pope Pius XII has already FORMALLY defined (in an binding encyclical) the Church’s teaching on evolution. While the theory is not proven, its materialistic expression, especially the unguided version proposed by Darwinism and neo-Darwinism, is unacceptable. This teaching is unchangeable, which means that anyone who interprets JPII differently, doesn’t understand the continuity of Catholic teaching.
Second, John Paul II is saying INFORMALLY (in an unbinding way) that, in his opinion, common descent is more than a hypothesis (well established and corroborated by more than one science, yet provisional), but with respect to m mechanisms and purpose, Darwinism and neo-Darwinism are, as always, OUT.
None of this is very complicated.
The question I wonder about is, why would a person follow a religion that does not believe what his God says? Or feels he can’t trust it.
Nothing the scientists have proved show that there is any problem with creation, and just as it was written about thousands of years ago.
Creation and science are the same thing. Creation was done using science.
http://patternsofcreation.weebly.com/
If you want to know where the Church is headed, the Pontifical Academy of Sciences is a good place to start, but this is a fair summation:
FYI: Church Law and forma specifica:
What forma specifica means:
And where does God’s word come into this. Isn’t his word the highest authority?
The pope doesn’t really have a say in this. Because the bible clearly point out the creation.
No scientists has, with evidence, anything to contradict the bible.
So creation and science are the same thing. The creation was done with the science.
http://patternsofcreation.weebly.com/